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Subject: Egypt/Egyptology
Category: Reference, Education and News > Teaching and Research
Asked by: needtoknow123-ga
List Price: $2.50
Posted: 18 Feb 2003 11:51 PST
Expires: 20 Mar 2003 11:51 PST
Question ID: 163076
During the 1960's there were many pieces of Egyptian architecture
moved by funding from UNESCO to avoid the flooding created by the
Aswam Dam.  One of them was the move of the Temple of Ramses II.  I
need to know what error was made in resituating the Temple of Ramses II.

Clarification of Question by needtoknow123-ga on 18 Feb 2003 11:55 PST
In addition, I will need a reference to relay back to.

Thanks!
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Subject: Re: Egypt/Egyptology
Answered By: revbrenda1st-ga on 18 Feb 2003 12:28 PST
Rated:4 out of 5 stars
 
Hi needtoknow,

Thanks for a five star question! I wasn't aware a mistake had been
made so I really enjoyed this research.

When the pharaoh built his temple he designed it so that each year, on
the anniversaries of his birth and his coronation, the sun would shine
directly onto the statues at the rear.

"In a massive relocation effort in the 1960's, UNESCO moved the site
200 meters inland to avoid the rising waters of Lake Nasser - and
shifted the sunlight
"miracle" by one day."

Route360 Egypt
http://www.altrec.com/features/route360/egypt/

I was interested to learn if the dates were shifted a day earlier or
later, and wondered what the dates used to be and are now, so I poked
around a bit further and found this:

"Every year on Feb. 21st and October 21st something spectacular
occurs, the sun shines directly from the entrance all the way back to
illuminate the godly statues in the holly chamber! The only statue
that is never illuminated is that of god Ptah and that is because he
was the god of darkness. This is no accident, it was designed like
that by the ancient Egyptians!. Although the relocation of the temple
was carefully done, it was not possible to maintain the mathematical
precision of its location and design. But taking that into
consideration, this phenomena still occurs except now it happens one
day later (on the 22nd)."

Egypt - Emilio's Choice
http://home.iae.nl/users/grimaldo/themuse/egypt-sights.shtml

You can see some great photos here:

Abu Simbel
http://www.viewpointimages.co.uk/Egypt/Abu_Simbel/body_abu_simbel.html


This page provides information about how the structures were moved.

Abusimbel
http://www.worldwander.com/egypt/textabusimbel.htm

I hope the above is useful to you. Before rating my answer, don't
hesitate to use your Answer Clarification button if I've omitted
anything.

Regards,
revbrenda1st


Search strategy:

Temple of Ramses II relocation
://www.google.ca/search?q=Temple+of+Ramses+II+relocation&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Request for Answer Clarification by needtoknow123-ga on 18 Feb 2003 17:01 PST
I thought that this was partially it.  However, I have been told that
there was also a flood due to the temple not being moved high enough. 
Is this correct?

Clarification of Answer by revbrenda1st-ga on 18 Feb 2003 17:57 PST
Hi again, needtoknow,

I've checked and re-checked across the web, and nothing I've found
indicates that the relocated Temple of Ramses is/was in danger of any
imminent flooding.

I found this from PBS, a most reliable source of information which
would report any past/present/future dangers to this temple:

"After dismantling the temples piece by piece, the relocation teams
reassembled them in the same configuration and orientation. They also
constructed an artificial mountainside around them in order to retain
their cliff-carved appearance. After the completion of the dam in 1970
and the rise of Lake Nasser, the salvaged temples lay 66 feet from the
new lake's shoreline."

NOVA | Lost Roman Treasure | Damming the Past: Egypt: PBS
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/zeugma/sites.html

Since you've not said from whom you've received this additional
information and from where s/he retrieved it, I'm in no position to
refute it.

Having said that, I'll leave it to you to judge. If you're not
satisfied with my answer, I'll withdraw it and let someone else answer
your question. I'm confident, however, that I am correct and that any
subsequent answer will be identical to mine.

I wish you well,
revbrenda1st

Request for Answer Clarification by needtoknow123-ga on 18 Feb 2003 19:02 PST
No, I too agree with this as I have found the same answer prior to
posting this question.  I just figured that since I heard another say
that 'there was a flood' it did not hurt to put another researcher to
the test.   So although my other source gave the information - they
couldn't provide documentation to follow it.  Which allows me to leave
it at this.

Your help is greatly appreciated. 

Thanks again!!

Clarification of Answer by revbrenda1st-ga on 18 Feb 2003 19:11 PST
Thanks, needtoknow.    :)
needtoknow123-ga rated this answer:4 out of 5 stars
revbrenda1st was a great help!

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