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Subject: US Navy ships
Category: Reference, Education and News
Asked by: goosebay-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 23 Feb 2003 09:44 PST
Expires: 25 Mar 2003 09:44 PST
Question ID: 166005
Searching for information on a Navy Patrol Vessel: YP29

Request for Question Clarification by justaskscott-ga on 23 Feb 2003 09:59 PST
YP-29 was the designation of a Boeing aircraft:

"Boeing P-29"
USAF Museum 
http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/p29.htm

Are you thinking of PY29?  If so, I can provide an answer.

Clarification of Question by goosebay-ga on 23 Feb 2003 11:05 PST
YP 29 This boat supposedly was built at Hutchinson Boat Works, by
Glenn Funress, in Alexandria Bay, NY and was a mine sweeper use in WW
II.

Request for Question Clarification by tutuzdad-ga on 23 Feb 2003 11:27 PST
MCM   Mine Countermeasures Ship

MHC   Coastal Mine Hunter

ML    Minelayer

MS    Minesweeper

MSB   Minesweeping Boat

MSH   Minesweeper,

MSO   Minesweeper, Ocean

These vessels, however, were the “Y” class vessels and didn’t deal
with mines:

YP    District Patrol Craft

YPD   Pile Driver (Floating)

YPK   Pontoon Storage Barge

If you have any additional information like the known campaigns, any
historical information or a christened name maybe we can come up with
something for you.

Regards;
Tutuzdad-ga

Request for Question Clarification by tutuzdad-ga on 23 Feb 2003 11:29 PST
Sorry, I should have said that the first list on top are vessels
classified as mine operations vessels, but the others were "Y"
classification vessels that didn't work with mines or mine detection.

tutuzdad-ga

Clarification of Question by goosebay-ga on 23 Feb 2003 12:47 PST
Some further clarification has just come in to me.  It was an old
photograph.  Perhaps it is a 79 instead of 29.  as in YP 79.
Thanks for all your help.

Clarification of Question by goosebay-ga on 23 Feb 2003 13:32 PST
I had also found all of the recent information you submitted.  I am
now broading my search to include the YP "7" 9 incase it is a "7"
instead of a "2" on the photograph.  Thanks-

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 23 Feb 2003 16:55 PST
This is turing out to be an intriguing question.  I've found
references to to both the YP-29 and PY-29, and it's clear that both
are one and the same ship (named either Mizpa or Mizpah -- choose your
spelling!).

PY (Patrol Yacht) 29 is the official Navy designation.  Some history
of the ship is given at the two sites below, but it does not match the
history that you have given.  Does this help?  Or is it only confusing
things?  Whichever, good luck in your search:

http://www.charlevoix.lib.mi.us/VII-002.htm

This 185 ft. luxury yacht was launched in 1926, built for the founder
and President of the Zenith Radio Corporation, Eugene McDonald, Jr.,
of Chicago... The MIZPA was taken over by the Navy in 1942 and served
in a convoy escort group as the YP-29. She was the flag ship of the
convoy group.

-----

http://www.navsource.org/archives/12/1329.htm

NavSource Online:
Patrol Yacht Photo Archive
PY-29 Mizpah

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Laid down in 1926 as yacht Savarona at Newport News Shipbuilding and
Drydock Corp., Newport News, VA; Renamed Mizpah, 1929; Acquired by the
Navy, 16 March 1942; Converted at Sturgeon Bay Shipbuilding, Sturgeon
Bay, Wisc; Commissioned USS Mizpah (PY-29), 26 October 1942;
Decommissioned, 15 January 1946;

Clarification of Question by goosebay-ga on 23 Feb 2003 19:24 PST
I have no other information other than it was a wooden ship built in
Alexandria Bay, NY at a place called Hutchinson's Boat Works and was
believed to be used during WW II along the East Coast perhaps YP 79.

Request for Question Clarification by sublime1-ga on 23 Feb 2003 19:50 PST
goosebay...

Curiouser and curiouser...I went a different route and searched for
the shipbuilder and came across this blurb:

"Barnett (AP-11) was launched in 1928 as the passenger steamer
 Santa Maria by Furness Shipbuilding Co., Ltd., Haverton-on-Tees,
 England, purchased by the Navy 9 August 1940; and commissioned
 25 September 1940, Captain L. S. Pamper in in command."

What's even more interesting is the short sentence above it, about
another craft named Barnett:

"A small tug purchased in 1918 and later reclassified YT-29 was
 known as Barnett."

Both quotes are from a page on the 'Haze Gray and Underway'
Naval History and Photography site's Dictionary of American
Naval Fighting Ships:
http://www.hazegray.org/danfs/volume_b/vol_b_02.htm

Any chance the Barnett built by Furness (not Funress) got
mixed up with the tug YT-29 in the history you're citing?
The coincidence here was just too much to ignore, so I 
thought I'd ask.

sublime1-ga

Clarification of Question by goosebay-ga on 24 Feb 2003 18:25 PST
Still looking for information on YP 79.  The number on the ship is the
only information we have from the photo.  Would appreciate any
information you may have on ships built at Hutchinson's in Alexandria
Bay.

Request for Question Clarification by sublime1-ga on 24 Feb 2003 20:49 PST
goosebay...

Hutchinson's has a rather primitive website which seems focused
on sales in the present, rather than their history. They do have
a contact page where you can send them a query or obtain their
phone and fax numbers:
http://www.hutchinsonsboatworks.com/new_page_6.htm

Perhaps someone their has access to archival information.
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Subject: Re: US Navy ships
From: sublime1-ga on 23 Feb 2003 13:15 PST
 
goosebay...

I found references to quite a few YP vessels, but not the YP-29.

Here's a list of YP WWII casualties, from a FAQ page on the US
Navy Military History site:

-------------------------------------------------------

Patrol Vessel, District (YP)

YP-16 lost due to Japanese occupation of the Philippine Islands and
 stricken from the Navy List, 24 July 1942.

YP-17 lost due to Japanese occupation of the Philippine Islands and
 stricken from the Navy List, 24 July 1942.

YP-26 destroyed by undetermined explosion in the Canal Zone, Panama,
 19 November 1942.

YP-47 sunk by collision off Staten Island, New York, 26 April 1943.

YP-72 destroyed by grounding at Adak, Aleutian Islands, 22 February
 1943.

YP-73 destroyed by grounding in Kodiak Harbor, Alaska, 15 January
 1945.

YP-74 sunk by collision, 6 September 1942.

YP-77 sunk in collision off Atlantic coast, 28 April 1942.

YP-88 destroyed by grounding at Amchitka, Aleutian Islands,
 28 October 1943.

YP-94 destroyed by grounding, 18 February 1945.

YP-95 destroyed by grounding at Adak, Aleutian Islands,
 1 May 1944.

YP-97 lost due to Japanese occupation of the Philippine Islands
 and stricken from the Navy List, 24 July 1942.

YP-128 destroyed by grounding off Monterey, California, 30 June
 1942.

YP-183 destroyed by grounding on the west coast of Hawaii, 12
 January 1943.

YP-205 destroyed by grounding, 1 November 1942.

YP-235 destroyed by undetermined explosion in the Gulf of Mexico,
 1 April 1943.

YP-270 destroyed by grounding, 30 June 1942.

YP-277 scuttled to avoid capture east of Hawaii, 23 May 1942.

YP-279 foundered in heavy weather off Townsville, Australia,
 5 September 1943.

YP-281 foundered in heavy weather, 9 January 1944.

YP-284 sunk by surface ships off Guadalcanal, Solomon Islands,
 25 October 1942.

YP-331 foundered in heavy weather, 23 March 1944.

YP-336 destroyed by grounding in the Delaware River, 23 February
 1943.

YP-345 sunk southeast of Midway Island, 31 October 1942.

YP-346 sunk by surface ships in the South Pacific, 9 September
 1942.

YP-383 sunk by collision, 24 November 1944.

YP-387 sunk by collision, 20 May 1942.

YP-389 sunk by a submarine off Cape Hatteras, North Carolina,
 19 June 1942.

YP-405 destroyed by undetermined explosion in the Caribbean Sea,
 20 November 1942.

YP-422 destroyed by grounding off New Caledonia.

YP-426 destroyed by grounding, 16 December 1943.

YP-438 destroyed by grounding at Port Everglades, Florida,
 20 March 1943.

YP-453 destroyed by grounding in the Bahama Islands, 15 April
 1943.

YP-481 destroyed by grounding at Charleston, South Carolina,
 25 April 1943.

YP-492 sunk by collision off east Florida, 8 January 1943.

YP-577 destroyed by undetermined explosion in the Great Lakes,
 23 January 1943.

http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq82-1.htm

-------------------------------------------------------

And this is another Navy listing of YP craft, all of which
have no name, from the Naval Vessel Registry - the Official
Inventory of US Naval Ships and Service Craft:

-------------------------------------------------------

Class      Hull       Name
YP 78      YP 584     NO NAME  
YP 78      YP 585     NO NAME  
           YP 586     NO NAME  
YP 78      YP 587     NO NAME  
YP 78      YP 588     NO NAME  
           YP 589     NO NAME  
           YP 590     NO NAME  
YP 78      YP 591     NO NAME  
YP 654     YP 655     NO NAME  
YP 654     YP 656     NO NAME  
YP 654     YP 657     NO NAME  
YP 654     YP 658     NO NAME  
YP 654     YP 663     NO NAME  
YP 654     YP 665     NO NAME  
YP 654     YP 667     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 676     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 677     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 678     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 680     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 681     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 682     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 683     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 684     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 685     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 686     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 687     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 688     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 689     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 690     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 691     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 692     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 693     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 694     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 695     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 696     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 697     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 698     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 699     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 700     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 701     NO NAME  
YP 676     YP 702     NO NAME  

http://www.nvr.navy.mil/nvrservicecraft/c_YP.htm

-------------------------------------------------------

Sorry I couldn't locate the YP-29.

sublime1-ga
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