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Subject: Looking for chatoom/web/usenet sites talking about new 3G cellular provider "3"
Category: Computers > Wireless and Mobile
Asked by: jcs2000-ga
List Price: $50.00
Posted: 25 Feb 2003 12:48 PST
Expires: 27 Mar 2003 12:48 PST
Question ID: 167042
I'm trying find websites and chatrooms/newsgroups that are discussing
the new Hutchison 'Three' service in the UK. This is the new mobile 3G
high band width cellular service.

I'm looking for negative and positive comments

Request for Question Clarification by websearcher-ga on 25 Feb 2003 13:03 PST
Hello jcs2000:

Thanks for the question. I have a few clarifications I would like to
ask for before I proceed:

1. Are you looking for discussions/chats/websites strictly in English
only? If not, what other languages are you interested in?

2. Are you looking for websites with news stories about this service,
or are you just looking for ongoing "discussions" about the service?

Once I have these answers from you, I should be able to proceed in
finding the information you need.

Thanks. 

websearcher-ga

Request for Question Clarification by websearcher-ga on 25 Feb 2003 13:09 PST
One more question:

3. Are you interested in information about the financial future of
this service - and it's effect on the Hutchison company?

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 25 Feb 2003 16:18 PST
Hello.

From what I see, the launch of Hutchinson's new "3" service was
delayed somewhat, and now won't roll out until March.

There is a good deal of news reporting and discussion about what the
service is intended to be, but not much in the way of explicit
negatives and positives, since no one's had any hands on experience
with it yet.

Are you interested in having links to the many articles, discussions,
etc. even if they aren't evaluative in nature?

Clarification of Question by jcs2000-ga on 26 Feb 2003 00:51 PST
Hi - answers below:

1) English/UK mainland only

2) More interested in user discussions then web news

Let me know if you need anything else.

JS
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Subject: Re: Looking for chatoom/web/usenet sites talking about new 3G cellular provider "3"
Answered By: pafalafa-ga on 26 Feb 2003 12:06 PST
Rated:4 out of 5 stars
 
Hello.

Thank you for a challenging question, and for your responsiveness to
the clarification requests.

I've conducted several searches for information on Hutchison's "3"
service, concentrating on group "chats" and weblog postings, since
these sorts of online discussions seemed your primary area of
interest.  I've also included some recent news items.

The results of my searches are posted below -- I cleaned out any links
that were not related to your question, although I left in those that
may only have a tangential relation.  Most of them are on the money,
however, discussing the status and pros and cons of 3.

But let me first say that if you feel additional information is
needed, don't hesitate to let me know through a Request for
Clarification.  I will do what it takes to get you the info you need.

-----
I searched Google Groups for [ Hutchison "three.com" UK ].  It may be
helpful to click on the link below to see the search results, as these
will allow you to go directly to the discussions themselves, and to
further expand the results to see the full discussion threads.

http://groups.google.com/groups?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=Hutchison+%22three-com%22+3g+uk&btnG=Google+Search


Re: Hutchison Whampoa 3G UK Ltd
Will Hutchison Whampoa 3G UK Ltd provide voice airtime service in the
near future?
Wasn't Orange a subsidiary company of Hutchison? Visit
www.three.co.uk.
uk.telecom.mobile - Dec 12, 2002 by Adrian Smith - View Thread (4
articles)

Details of 3's tariffs - opinions?
... See online at www.three.co.uk for more details. - ends - NOTES FOR
EDITORS AND CSEs About 3 Hutchison 3G UK Limited will deliver
third-generation mobile ...
uk.telecom.mobile - Feb 6, 2003 by Mobilescape - View Thread (15
articles)

Re: Hutchison 3G article (slightly long)
... commercially sensitive! Three have already told me twice firstly
June
secondly Q4, im now looking for any updates probably now Q2 2003 
uk.telecom.mobile - Jul 29, 2002 by Frazer Mountford - View Thread (17
articles)

Re: New 3G Carrier for UK
... m not exactly sure what Hutchison will be offering ... shtml They
will be offering 3g
services hopefully by ... the year, their consumer name is three
www.three.co.uk
uk.telecom.mobile - Jul 23, 2002 by Frazer Mountford - View Thread (2
articles)

Re: 3G
Is the a website giving me some general ... other day but IIRC all
three had bluetooth
(or ... rumours floating around that '3' (Hutchison's 3G network) were
planning ...
uk.telecom.mobile - Jan 14, 2003 by Simon C - View Thread (32
articles)

Re: How to avoid London congestion charging camera's registering ... 
... can't remember, but it's certainly not 6) 3G spectrum licences in
... as H3G and is part
of the Hutchison empire so add that 1 to the other THREE FIRMS and you
...
uk.transport.london - Oct 21, 2002 by Seanie O'Kilfolyle - View Thread
(33 articles)

Re: Hutchison 3G article (slightly long)
uk.telecom.mobile - Jul 30, 2002 by Stuart - View Thread (17 articles)

Re: Hutchison 3G article (slightly long)
Frazer Mountford <frazer@orange(bluegreenyellow).net> said: Three have
already told
me twice firstly June secondly Q4, im now looking for any updates
probably ...
uk.telecom.mobile - Jul 29, 2002 by Frazer Mountford - View Thread (17
articles)

Re: Hutchison 3G article (slightly long)
Frazer Mountford <frazer@orange(bluegreenyellow).net> said: Three have
already told
me twice firstly June secondly Q4, im now looking for any updates
probably ...
uk.telecom.mobile - Jul 29, 2002 by Simply Steve - View Thread (17
articles)

Re: Excitement level about three
The consumer name for Hutchison 3G, the UK newest UMTS Network being
developed When will it start running? Orange have been putting ... 
uk.telecom.mobile - Jul 18, 2002 by Jules - View Thread (17 articles)

Re: Excitement level about three
... think they will blow Orange`s socks off. Whats three? The consumer
name
for Hutchison 3G, the UK newest UMTS Network being developed 
uk.telecom.mobile - Jul 17, 2002 by Frazer Mountford - View Thread (17
articles)

Re: 3G Infrastructure Sharing & amount of radio wave
... to set high roaming charges, for three reasons: 1) they ... The
situation may be different
for 3G but again the ... are however no plans for Hutchison 3G to roam
on ...
uk.telecom.mobile - Apr 11, 2001 by Jason Sanderson - View Thread (11
articles)

Re: MNP to 3G...
The three 3G phones that will be on offer at launch are displayed at
www.three.co.uk
(Hutchison Whampoa has ordered about 2 million of them for all of
their 3G ...
aus.comms.mobile - Dec 28, 2002 by Isaac Roberts - View Thread (10
articles)

The Future of 3G
... Hutchison 3G will be launching their service - "3" - in the ... of
payback somewhere in
the next three to eight years. ... Yeah, let's forget about 3G and
stick with 2G ...
alt.dur.general - Aug 20, 2002 by David Marshall - View Thread (2
articles)

Re: 3 roams on O2 !
whos "3"? a 3G network? When do these networks become active then?
From a Hutchison
Whampoa press statement (see www.three.co.uk):- "Hong Kong - 03 July
2002 ...
uk.telecom.mobile - Sep 8, 2002 by Adrian Smith - View Thread (10
articles)

Re: 3G
When is this likely to be up and running in the UK? ... Vodafone, O2,
Orange, T-Mobile
and Three - the latter being owned by Hutchison, the original owners
...
uk.telecom.mobile - Nov 12, 2002 by David Wood - View Thread (32
articles)

Monthly IT & Telecom Newsletter IBM and Shanghai Telecom launch ... 
... a third-generation license in the UK, for US $ 1.64 ...
investments in KPN Mobile and
Hutchison 3G to be zero. ... for improvement go up Shanghai - Three
flours of IT ...
soc.culture.cuba - Aug 13, 2001 by Poseidon 55 - View Thread (1
article)

The Asian mobile invasion begins
... underway, the shipment order by Hutchison was doubled to ...
initially available on only
three handsets, clamshell phones ... the industry moved into 3G and
this would ...
alt.cellular.clearnet - Oct 29, 2002 by twtwwtin - View Thread (1
article)

NTT DoCoMo to invest US $ 10 bln in China DEL SUBDESARROLLO A ... 
... a third-generation license in the UK, for US $ 1.64 ...
investments in KPN Mobile and
Hutchison 3G to be zero. ... for improvement go up Shanghai - Three
flours of IT ...
soc.culture.cuba - Aug 11, 2001 by Poseidon 55 - View Thread (1
article)

Re: [LINK] Roaming without roaming charges - New Website
... are typical for conventional roaming, plus you need an account and
SIM from Hutchison
GSM in Hong ... (5) WCDMA/GSM Roaming Two of the three 3G services in
Japan ...
uk.telecom.mobile - Dec 23, 2002 by ZEBRA Roaming - View Thread (15
articles)

Re: MNP to 3G...
... The three 3G phones that will be on offer at launch are displayed
at www.three.co.uk
(Hutchison Whampoa has ordered about 2 million of them for all of
their 3G ...
aus.comms.mobile - Dec 28, 2002 by Graham - View Thread (10 articles)

Faulkner Telecom Weekly July 14, 2000 (fwd)
... DoCoMo, and KPN Telecom forged a three-way partnership to ...
DoCoMo will acquire 20 percent
of Hutchison 3G UK Holdings, Hutchison Whampoa's UK wireless arm, for
...
cmu.cs.general - Jul 17, 2000 by Missy Harvey - View Thread (1
article)

Re: OT: Nomad
Roll on 3G, chortle. I thought that O2 had it on the Isle of Man ages
ago... ... Hutchison
(branded as Three) is launching shortly, see www.three.co.uk. ... 
uk.rec.motorcycles - Nov 14, 2002 by Abso - View Thread (30 articles)

Re: Excitement level about three
The consumer name for Hutchison 3G, the UK newest UMTS Network being
developed When will it start running? Orange have been putting ... 
uk.telecom.mobile - Jul 18, 2002 by Frazer Mountford - View Thread (17
articles)

Re: Mobile Phones
... They get my vote till www.three.co.uk who are the new Hutchison
Whampoa 3G service
launch ( Hutch started Orange & are responsible for all things good in
the ...
uk.media.tv.angel - Jul 4, 2002 by Clueless - View Thread (5 articles)

Re: 3G roll out information
uk.telecom.mobile - Feb 1, 2003 by James MacDonald - View Thread (22
articles)

Faulkner's Com Flash 04/03/00 - (Part 2 of 2) (fwd)
... Telekom, AT&T, MCI WorldCom, and Hutchison Whampoa all secured ...
are two of the top
three dominant brand names in ... assert that 1XTREME meets all ITU 3G
standards. ...
cmu.cs.robotics - Apr 4, 2000 by Missy Harvey - View Thread (1
article)

Re: How long before we start seeing...
... come out. Part of Hutchison's new 3G service, Three will be the
ability
to play back clips of premiership goals at will. With data ... 
uk.telecom.mobile - Jan 22, 2003 by Simon C - View Thread (7 articles)

Re: Channel 5 to rename..
Hutchison Whampoa is renaming themselves to Three (orange's oooooold
owners) Do
you have a source for this - I know that they will launch their UK 3G
network ...
uk.tech.digital-tv - Sep 3, 2002 by Adrian Smith - View Thread (24
articles)

Versatel begint rechtszaak tegen Nederlandse Staat
... existing mobile players, only three new parties actually ... a
France Telecom participation
and Versatel 3G NV. ... KPN , NTT DoCoMo and Hutchison announced that
they ...
nl.telecom - Jul 4, 2000 by *Michiel* - View Thread (10 articles)

Faulkner Comm Flash 07/13/00 - (Part 1 of 2) (fwd)
... its European ally, created a three-way strategic alliance with ...
The Hutchison/TIW
venture was one of five companies that secured a 3G license in the ...
cmu.cs.robotics - Jul 14, 2000 by Missy Harvey - View Thread (1
article)

Re: Three
"Has anyone seen a mast yet" Got one in my back garden says Hutchison
3G on the
box next to the pole, and it must be working cos the cooling fan is
whirring ...
uk.telecom.mobile - Oct 1, 2002 by Phil - View Thread (8 articles)

Asia Pac Telecoms Watch for Oct 22 to 28, 2001
... The Hong Kong 3G service, like its Australian ... of the world's
big three mobile operators,
China ... like Singapore Telecommunications, Hutchison Whampoa and
Telstra ...
comp.dcom.telecom - Oct 28, 2001 by Mike Newlands - View Thread (1
article)

Faulkner Comm Flash 07/26/00 - (Part 1 of 2)
... DoCoMo, and KPN Telecom forged a three-way partnership to ...
DoCoMo will acquire 20 percent
of Hutchison 3G UK Holdings, Hutchison Whampoa's UK wireless arm, for
...
cmu.cs.general - Jul 27, 2000 by Missy Harvey - View Thread (1
article)

Re: Orange going downhill rapidly - WAKE UP
... more customer-focused than the other three networks, they built
... keep their GSM customers
until 3G kicks in, they ... up heading-up the Hutchison 3G outfit - it
would ...
uk.telecom.mobile - Jan 1, 2001 by David Richards - View Thread (12
articles)

Re: Burleigh/Fitzroy St
... that they weren't going to have three shops in town. ... and can
anybody tell the difference
anymore ... seem shops for "3", which is what Hutchison Mobile are
calling ...
cam.misc - Feb 25, 2003 by Meldrew of Meldreth - View Thread (158
articles)

Re: Channel 5 to rename..
Hutchison Whampoa is renaming themselves to Three (orange's oooooold
owners) news:umcecptbsukc03 ... Like
Orange are renaming their 3G business to Three. ... 
uk.tech.digital-tv - Sep 3, 2002 by richard john - View Thread (24
articles)

Asia Pac Telecoms Watch Oct 22 to 28
... The Hong Kong 3G service, like its Australian ... of the world's
big three mobile operators,
China ... like Singapore Telecommunications, Hutchison Whampoa and
Telstra ...
alt.cell-phone.tech - Oct 28, 2001 by Mike Newlands - View Thread (1
article)


Re: How to avoid London congestion charging camera's registering ... 
... t remember, but it's certainly not 6) 3G spectrum licences in ...
as H3G and is part of
the Hutchison empire Just shows ... add that 1 to the other THREE
FIRMS and you ...
uk.transport.london - Oct 22, 2002 by tuscaneer - View Thread (33
articles)

Faulkner Telecom Weekly - Newsletter
... million to $1 billion of three-year notes by ... and Tele Danmark;
Swisscom; NTL; Hutchison;
and Team 3G ... award four third-generation (3G) wireless licenses
through ...
cmu.cs.general - Jun 14, 2000 by Missy Harvey - View Thread (1
article)

SMH : Singapore dials in $20bn Optus bid
... no longer has problem of reselling 3G spectrum if Optus ... to its
next biggest rival,
Hutchison Telecommunications, and then ... for two out of three
divisions of the ...
jaring.general - Mar 25, 2001 by Yap Yok Foo - View Thread (1 article)

Litet nordisk verklighet
... In Hong Kong, Hutchison Telecom awarded a contract for Motorola's
IS ... positions the
company well for 3G (third-generation) systems. ... three months ahead
of schedule ...
swnet.politik - Jul 12, 2000 by Gunnar - View Thread (1 article)

Filmnet Daily 4.034 Content is King!
... Business Development for Hutchison Telecoms, the owners of ... of
acquiring content for
their upcoming 3G service. ... writer/director with three feature film
projects ...
aus.films - Apr 5, 2001 by filmnet - View Thread (1 article)

Orange, down the tubes they go...
... fast follower strategy, learning from Hutchison UK and Italian 3G
... and for the next
three months, 24 hour ... against a background of job creation for
Hutchison 3G. ...
aus.comms.mobile - Oct 30, 2001 by Rod Speed - View Thread (17
articles)

Re: The Asian mobile invasion begins
... underway, the shipment order by Hutchison was doubled to ...
initially available on only
three handsets, clamshell phones ... the industry moved into 3G and
this would ...
alt.cellular.fido - Oct 30, 2002 by Kukori - View Thread (1 article

-----
I also searched on weblog postings using the search function at
Daypop:

www.daypop.com

A search using the "weblog only" function, for the terms [Hutchinson
UK] resulted in two additional useful listings (again, it may be best
to go to the Daypop site directly, and reproduce the search yourself
-- you can use the "weblogs + news" function if you want to see
additional items from news stories).


 
 Paul Golding's Weblog on Wireless
... 13, 2002 Three (hutchison 3G) in the UK have announced their
prices for
3G services. 10:27:50 PM  Copyright 2003 Paul Golding. Last ...
radio.weblogs.com/0114561 - 30K - Cached 02-23 - Citations 

 Techno-News Blog
... of 3G phones. Hutchison, the Asian telco giant, plans to roll out
full ...
... services next month in the UK and Italy and many other operators
...
people.uis.edu/rschr1/blogger.html - 27K - Cached 02-24 - Citations 


-----

A search on [hutchison three uk] at Google News [ news.google.com ]
can be seen here:

http://news.google.com/news?num=100&hl=en&q=hutchison+three+uk&btnG=Search+News


After some cleaning up of non-relevant stories, the search came up
with these:

GPRS/UMTS in Europe is back on the road, but who has the map?
Europemedia.net, Netherlands - 5 hours ago
... spark competition in certain European countries, while the UK ...
The operators will also
have to do three things ... presence of new UMTS entrants, such as
Hutchison 3G ...


Hutchison cuts 3G prices
ZDNet.co.uk, UK - 06 Feb 2003
Three, a Hong Kong-controlled mobile phone start-up, says it is
halving the price
of its first 20000 third-generation (3G) handsets ... The UK arm of
Hutchison ...


Hutchison Loss Balloons; Hopes On 3G
Yahoo News - 17 Feb 2003
... dropped after rights issue last year bolstered parent Hutchison
... at A$8.28, benefiting
from rise in UK ... CSL dominant position in market from current
number three ...


INTERVIEW-Hutchison's "3" halves UK 3G handset prices
Forbes - 06 Feb 2003
... Hutchison 3G is pitching itself against established rivals
Vodafone Group, Orange,
Deutsche Telekom and mm02 in a launch that has ... 3 UK is offering
three ...


March launch for Hutchison 3G UK
3G Newsroom, UK - 30 Jan 2003
... Three mobile handsets will be on sale at the ... Hutchison 3G will
subsidise handsets
to help it reach the ... Spokesman Matt Peacock said the first 20000
UK customers ...


Hutchison announces UK pricing, launch details
RCR Wireless News - 07 Feb 2003
LONDON—UK newcomer Hutchison 3G has released ... The company will
initially offer
three handsets, two from NEC Corp. and one from Motorola Inc. ... 


3G gets closer to EDGE
ZDNet.co.uk, UK - 21 Feb 2003
With 3, Hutchison's UK greenfield ... Partly because of spectrum
issues it is widely
accepted at least three operators in the US will move to EDGE. ... 


Hutchison 3G shuns handset subsidies
Financial Times (subscription), UK - 06 Feb 2003
... users call other "three" mobiles when they are in a Hutchison 3G
coverage area.
At launch Hutchison has said its 3G network will cover 50 per cent of
the UK ...


"3" to woo wary UK with discounts in March launch
Forbes - 30 Jan 2003
... on Thursday it would woo its first 20000 UK ... Hutchison 3G,
controlled by Hong Kong
conglomerate Hutchison Whampoa ... The three handsets, which are being
paraded to ...


Heard In HK: Investors Wary Of Hutchison Whampoa
Yahoo News - 06 Feb 2003
... says Matt Peacock, a spokesman for Hutchison's 3G business in the
UK ... contributed
just 3% of earnings -- but accounted for three-quarters of Hutchison's
...


Hutchison 3G launch undercuts the market
South China Morning Post (subscription), Hong Kong - 06 Feb 2003
... Hutchison 3G UK yesterday unveiled three price plans ranging up to
99.99
(about HK$1285) for its bundled video, data and voice services. ... 


Hutchison 3G launch undercuts market
South China Morning Post (subscription), Hong Kong - 06 Feb 2003
... Hutchison 3G UK on Thursday unveiled three price plans ranging up
to 99.99
(about HK$1285) for its bundled video, data and voice services. ... 


Hutchison 3G handsets ship 'mid-March'
The Register, UK - 06 Feb 2003
... The High Street push for 3 UK, Britain's first 3G ... Link and
Uncle Tom Cobbley and All,
touting Hutchison 3G ... In November, 3 announced three price plans,
of which ...


Hutchison confirms 3G launch
Guardian, UK - 30 Jan 2003
Phone giant Hutchison 3G has confirmed it will launch its ... of
independent retailers,
as well as the company's three ... which will be the first 3G service
in the UK ...

TeleCommunication Systems, Inc. Reports Fourth Quarter and Fiscal ...
Yahoo News - 05 Feb 2003
... Hutchison 3G consumers under the "3" brand. A demonstration of
TCS's location platform
technology may be viewed on the "3" website at:
http://www.three.co.uk/ ...

>>> Wi-Fi takes on 3G
3G Newsroom, UK - 02 Feb 2003
... Hutchison 3G UK has set itself the deadline of ... The operator
has three 3G handsets
with the cheapest ... Hutchison will offer cheaper tariffs in the
future despite ...


Future phone networks ready to roll
BBC, UK - 06 Feb 2003
... Currently only Hutchison has confirmed plans to launch its 3G
service, called "Three ... base
stations] that have been deployed by network operators now in the UK
...

Icons of industry
Teledotcom, Asia, Singapore - 29 Jan 2003
... up Indonesian carrier INDOSAT’s fixed national network, and three
... them were SingTel
Mobile in Singapore, CSL and Hutchison ... were set up in the US and
the UK. ...


The great 3G gamble
Guardian, UK - 10 Feb 2003
... will be the first mobile phone company in the UK ... 3 has a
three-year exclusive deal
with the Premier ... was created by the Hong Kong-based conglomerate
Hutchison ...


3 prepares for G and launch of  400 phone
Independent, UK - 29 Jan 2003
... The Oxford Street store is one of the firm's three ... The
company, which is controlled
by Hong Kong's Hutchison Whampoa ... to have about 1 million customers
in the UK ...


Reuters signs up to new 3G service
Guardian, UK - 28 Jan 2003
... agreement to provide text alerts to users of Hutchison's ... With
third generation phones,
UK mobile phone users will ... m - when it reports its 2002 profit in
three ...


DoCoMo chief sees 30% drop in new users
Financial Times (subscription), UK - 07 Feb 2003
... and Hutchison 3G UK. The bursting of the telecoms bubble, however,
left DoCoMo with
burned fingers, and resulted in the group writing off the value of
three- ...

3 unveils third-generation mobile pricing
VNUNet, UK - 06 Feb 2003
Hutchison's 3 operation has unveiled pricing for the UK's ... It is
offering three pricing
plans: one pay-as-you-go (3ToGo) and two previously detailed ... 

Mobile makers face new rivals in tough market
ZDNet.co.uk, UK - 14 Feb 2003
... the market for mobile carriers, struggling for cash, all eyes will
be on Hutchison ... spotlight
will be Edge, a rival network standard that was written off three ...

-----

I hope this information meets your needs.  As I said, if you require
any additional detail, just post a Request for Clarification, and I'm
at your service.

Clarification of Answer by pafalafa-ga on 27 Feb 2003 12:07 PST
I didn't mention this at first, as there was no information at this
source, but on reflection, thought you should know about it anyway. 
There is a Yahoo Chat Group at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/three-hutch/

Which is devoted to "Three", and describes itself as:

"A group for users of 'Three' / '3', the new 3G service
from Hutchison. Its open to any country, since Hutchison licences
cover so many!"

There are no postings there yet, but the group is open to any and all
who care to join.
jcs2000-ga rated this answer:4 out of 5 stars
very good answer - esp as so little data was available

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