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Why is a television set called a 'set'?
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Television Asked by: bloc8888-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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27 Feb 2003 13:19 PST
Expires: 29 Mar 2003 13:19 PST Question ID: 167987 |
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Re: Why is a television set called a 'set'?
From: pinkfreud-ga on 27 Feb 2003 15:32 PST |
This is a fascinating question to which I have not found an answer. "Radio set" predates "television set," but I haven't been able to find a definitive reason for the use of "set" in these terms. Obviously, a set is a group or collection of things, and these devices have many parts, but beyond that, I'm stumped. While searching for info on this, I came across a very funny explanation: Why is it called a TV set when you only get one? When TVs are manufactured, they leave the assembly lines as a gelatinous fluid. They only become usable once they have set. The term "TV set" first came about due to customer concern in the 1940s that they were buying TVs that had not set properly yet. http://www.rathergood.com/guru25.html I would imagine that a gelatinous, floppy television "unset" might have appealed to Salvador Dali. ;-) |
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Re: Why is a television set called a 'set'?
From: xarqi-ga on 27 Feb 2003 15:38 PST |
Maybe because early radios were often constructed from kits by hobbyists - and were called sets by analogy with chemistry sets??? TVs just followed the jargon. Totally guessing here. |
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Re: Why is a television set called a 'set'?
From: justaskscott-ga on 27 Feb 2003 18:53 PST |
Hi bioc8888-ga, I have seen a definition of "set" as "an apparatus of electrical or electronic components assembled so as to function as a unit". The problem is figuring out when this use of "set" began. It is possible that it goes back at least as far as "telegraph set". However, it is also possible that the word "set" began to be applied to telegraphs and telephones only after radio (or wireless, crystal, etc.) sets were introduced. If you think that this is enough for an answer, you can post a clarification or comment to let me know. |
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Re: Why is a television set called a 'set'?
From: bloc8888-ga on 27 Feb 2003 19:06 PST |
Thank you all for your input, gelatinous or not... justaskscott-ga, one of Dictionary.com's definitions of 'set' is "The collective receiving apparatus assembled to operate a radio or television" but my one question/comment would be ... how did that come about? I would assume that the word usage preceeded a common understanding of meaning.... That is to say, somewhere along the line, the word 'set' came to mean 'an electrical appliance' (of the information-receiving variety, e.g. telegraph, radio, TV)... So, why? It is a tough one, I may have to take what I can get in terms of an explanation. |
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Re: Why is a television set called a 'set'?
From: tutuzdad-ga on 27 Feb 2003 19:53 PST |
I cannot explain how the word "set" became synonmous with appliance, but as for TV's in particular this is really quite simple: Prior to 1935 (yes, there was TV prior to 1935), televisions were mechanical devices that were not entirely electronic. The device was made up of a "set" of specific items, namely a small motor, a spinning disk and a neon light. Without any of these, (ie, the set was incomplete) the device would not work. The term "mechanical television" eventually gave way to the term "television set" to describe all types of TV's, though other less popular and shorter lived names such as "Televisor" and "Shadowgraph" were used briefly to refer to certain models. There you have it. tutuzdad-ga |
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Re: Why is a television set called a 'set'?
From: feilong-ga on 27 Feb 2003 23:41 PST |
Having read the posts here of some of the finest researchers in GA, I know that if they can't find it, then it's likely that I won't unless I have a special reference for that. I'll just share my opinion on this one. Perhaps it is called a set because a television is made up a collection of different technologies. For example, the sound is borrowed from radio technology, the pictures from imaging technology, the circuitry from electronics technology, etc. If we go deeper to each components, we can find out more. It only appears to be one unit. Early television were also made to blend with a typical living room set. Note that we also say "computer set" or "computer system". A system is synonymous to the word "set" in this case and can be defined as a group or set of related or associated material or immaterial things forming a unity or complex whole. We all know that computers is composed of and utilize various technologies. This could also be a reason why a toaster is just a toaster -- well, you know what I mean. ;-) - Feilong |
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Re: Why is a television set called a 'set'?
From: leep-ga on 27 Feb 2003 23:54 PST |
Random notes after going through the OED: A telephone "handset" is "a telephone transmitter and receiver combined in a single instrument." An example of that usage in 1914: "The telephone instrument follows the general form which is so popular on the Continent, making large use of the combined transmitter and receiver, sometimes known as the hand microphone set." With regard to the "set" definition you referred to ("A piece of electrical or electronic apparatus, as a telephone, a telegraph receiver or transmitter, a radio or television receiver, etc." -OED), here are some examples of it in use (in the format of Year/Source/Reference Sentence): 1891 Man. Instruct. Army Telegr. Field Telegraphs Plate II (caption) "Two single current sets." 1898 Electrician 4 Mar. 625/2 "A diminutive telephone set..is now being put on the market." 1903 Science Siftings XXV. 49/1 "The instruments of the portable military out~fits are similar to those of the permanent station sets. " 1915 A. FAGE Aeroplane iv. 42 "A wireless set driven by a motor-cycle engine is mounted in front of the passenger's seat." 1923 Radio Broadcast Jan. 181/2 "Drug stores, music stores, cigar stores, even men's furnishing stores have radio sets for sale." 1931 B. BROWNE Talking Pictures vi. 146 "Wherever one looked there seemed space and wide, flat walls. One of the larger-sized sets should have been required to fill such an amount of enclosing surfaces." 1936 W. H. S. SMITH Let. 13 Dec. in Young Man's Country (1977) ii 46, "I dropped in on Stansbury..to hear his wireless which is a very good set." 1948 J. L. HORNUNG Radar Primer v. 123 "The electrical features of radar sets for use in airplanes are similar to those of sets used on ships." 1955 Radio Times 22 Apr. 30/1 (Advt.), "Here is a..table radiogram... Fine sets these Ferguson's." 1961 L. MUMFORD City in Hist. xvi. 496 "Reality has been progressively reduced to what filters through the screen of the television set." So it seems originally an item was called a set because it did do two things (i.e. receiving and transmitting) but over time any "electronic apparatus" started being referred to as a set. Hope this helps a little. |
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Re: Why is a television set called a 'set'?
From: thx1138-ga on 28 Feb 2003 07:02 PST |
I'm 99% sure xarqi-ga is correct, ie.early radios and television were constructed from sets of components (ie.kits) I found a posting on a newsgroup yesterday that confirmed this, but even though it sounded authoritative I didn't post it as an answer as I couldn't confirm that was the definitive answer. Hmm..... let's see what happens |
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Re: Why is a television set called a 'set'?
From: xarqi-ga on 01 Mar 2003 01:23 PST |
Yeah - the "crystal set". You'd get a "crystal" - some sort of diode - maybe just a hunk of galena crystal, a spool of wire for an antenna, an earphone, and either you'd wind a coil out of the antenna wire for tuning, or in the really expensive SETS, you'd get a - wait for it - variable capacitor!!! Hook 'em up and off you go - technology for everyone - voices plucked from the ether for just a few schillings! |
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Re: Why is a television set called a 'set'?
From: phi-ga on 01 Mar 2003 02:57 PST |
as xarqi said the origins are in the "crystal set" where u'd slap together a germanium diode , a tuning coil and a earphone and get a radio set .I don't know the definative answer. But if uve ever assembled one. there is simlply nothing else u can call it :) (crystal set I mean )Maybe some Company like heath kit called it a crystal set the first time. but it was a set u needed by all counts. |
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Re: Why is a television set called a 'set'?
From: xarqi-ga on 01 Mar 2003 03:16 PST |
This is from: http://www.arcsandsparks.com/aboutcrystalradios.html "A perfectly workable crystal radio detector could be constructed from a five-cent piece of galena crystal and the wire from a safety pin, and homemade crystal sets brought endless hours of listening enjoyment to children of the Great Depression. After this detector was connected to iron bedsprings (which doubled as an antenna) and grounded to household cold-water pipes, a youngster needed only inexpensive headphones to bring in the world of radio--all the power needed to run the crystal set came from the "air." Later, GIs of World War II constructed similar radios from rusty razor blades and pencil lead, the iron oxide crystals of the rust replacing the galena crystal and the graphite of the pencil lead substituting for the safety-pin "wire." These crystal radios were known as foxhole radios." |
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Re: Why is a television set called a 'set'?
From: nickyspag-ga on 01 Mar 2003 04:56 PST |
Apparently the word 'set' has more meanings than any other word in the English language - can anyone confirm this? |
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Re: Why is a television set called a 'set'?
From: xarqi-ga on 02 Mar 2003 17:26 PST |
I suspect that "point" has more meanings than "set". |
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