![]() |
|
![]() | ||
|
Subject:
high-yield stock strategy
Category: Business and Money > Finance Asked by: zagooroo-ga List Price: $25.00 |
Posted:
28 Feb 2003 07:40 PST
Expires: 30 Mar 2003 07:40 PST Question ID: 168355 |
Given the very low yields available today, what would be the disadvantages of the following simple strategy, shorting against the box? 1) Long 1,000 shares of Philip Morris (Altria) or some high-yield REIT 2) Short 1,000 shares at the same time 3) Keep both positions until you feel like it 4) In the meantime, take in the high dividend (6.5-7.0% in the case of PM) I believe the tax rules on shorting against the box now disallow losses on the positions in some way (but I still believe the losses are only deferred, not completely foregone), but that does not change the underlying economic reality of being able to earn 6.5-7.0% risk free, or am I missing something? |
![]() | ||
|
Subject:
Re: high-yield stock strategy
Answered By: efn-ga on 28 Feb 2003 10:37 PST Rated: ![]() |
Hi zagooroo, As I noted in my comment, the problem with this strategy is that you have to pay dividends on the shares you sell short. This is one of those cases where there's "no such thing as a free lunch." Thanks for accepting my answer. If you need any further information, please ask for a clarification. --efn |
zagooroo-ga
rated this answer:![]() Solid support for answer, with links to sources. |
![]() | ||
|
Subject:
Re: high-yield stock strategy
From: efn-ga on 28 Feb 2003 08:35 PST |
Hi zagooroo, What you are missing is that when your long position pays you a dividend, you don't get to keep it: you have to hand it right over to the person from whom you borrowed the stock you sold short. So you get no net gain. References: http://invest-faq.com/articles/trade-short-box.html http://www.fool.com/taxes/2001/taxes010518.htm Search strategy: "shorting against the box" shorting stocks dividend I am not confident enough of my expertise in this area to post this as an answer, but if it makes sense to you, post a comment saying so, and I will post an answer and claim the price. --efn |
Subject:
Re: high-yield stock strategy
From: highroute-ga on 28 Feb 2003 08:37 PST |
Yes, you are missing something. When you make a short sale, you're borrowing stock, and you have to remit payments to the lender in lieu of the dividends distributed while you maintain your short position. You earn dividends on your long position and have to pay them right back on your short position. Against the box, you're effectively just paying yourself out of another pocket. Google search strategy: "dividends short stock position" |
Subject:
Re: high-yield stock strategy
From: zagooroo-ga on 28 Feb 2003 09:38 PST |
That was a dumb oversight...knew it couldn't be so easy <g>, but gotta hand it to you, efn-ga, for the solid answer, and to highroute-ga as well, but you were first. |
If you feel that you have found inappropriate content, please let us know by emailing us at answers-support@google.com with the question ID listed above. Thank you. |
Search Google Answers for |
Google Home - Answers FAQ - Terms of Service - Privacy Policy |