Where can I find annual statistics providing the number, type and
cause of vessels sunk in the U.S. and world wide.

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Request for Question Clarification by webadept-ga on 21 May 2002 12:22 PDT

For the US you may want to look into the US Coast Guard, if you are
looking for statistics on vessels sinking in ocean waters and not at
thier docks. They have cause and casulty reports, and probably a much
better annual report available.

Link of interest is :
http://www.uscg.mil/hq/gm/moa/capsinkcas.htm

Still looking for world wide areas. Several smaller countries don't
have a "coast gaurd" per se, at least not as the US does. Are you
looking for "All" of them, or do you have a few areas you are really
interested in? Also, what might be helpful is your min. requirment for
"vessel".

webadept-ga

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Request for Question Clarification by webadept-ga on 21 May 2002 12:25 PDT

Here's a link to an anual report. There website is a bit bizzare on
the navigation. Use the Compass icon to get a menu on the page I gave
you above.

here is the other link
http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-m/moa/stati.htm

Hello sir-ga, thanks for using Google Answers! 
 
Lloyds Register has often been a recognised source for such things. 
According to their website [
&lt;a href=&quot;<a href="http://www.lr.org/corporate_information/Brief_history.htm">http://www.lr.org/corporate_information/Brief_history.htm</a>&quot;&gt;<a href="http://www.lr.org/corporate_information/Brief_history.htm">http://www.lr.org/corporate_information/Brief_history.htm</a>&lt;/a&gt; ] they were
founded in 1760 in a coffee house where the owner, one Edward Lloyd,
would distribute a fact sheet containing news he had heard.  In 1764,
they produced the first Register of Shipping so that people would know
who had which ships, both for insurance purposes and so merchants
would know the condition of the ships they were chartering.
 
Since then, Lloyds has become Lloyds Register of Shipping, and is the
standard place to search for maritime information.  Unfortunately,
they do not have any online-available information on shipwrecks.  They
do provide an annual 'World Casualty Statistics' document [
&lt;a href=&quot;<a href="http://www.lrfairplay.com/archway/services/Registers/CasualtyStats.htm">http://www.lrfairplay.com/archway/services/Registers/CasualtyStats.htm</a>&quot;&gt;<a href="http://www.lrfairplay.com/archway/services/Registers/CasualtyStats.htm">http://www.lrfairplay.com/archway/services/Registers/CasualtyStats.htm</a>&lt;/a&gt;
] which costs £145 (GBP), $215 (US), or € 215 (Euro).  This is
&amp;quot;compiled at the end of the year from [Lloyds Register's] maritime
information databases.
 
-- 
 
For the UK, the Department for Transport, Local Government and the
Regions produces statistics on marine accident casualties, however
this is simply a table of deaths occuring on UK Registered merchant
vessels.  This is available at [
&lt;a href=&quot;<a href="http://www.transtat.dtlr.gov.uk/tables/tsgb01/6/61701.htm">http://www.transtat.dtlr.gov.uk/tables/tsgb01/6/61701.htm</a>&quot;&gt;<a href="http://www.transtat.dtlr.gov.uk/tables/tsgb01/6/61701.htm">http://www.transtat.dtlr.gov.uk/tables/tsgb01/6/61701.htm</a>&lt;/a&gt; ].
 
-- 
 
For this information, Lloyds Register of Shipping is considered to be
the only place to go for authoritative, guaranteed accurate records. 
However, it is somewhat expensive, and for the full information you
will need to either purchase a book containing the information, or
visit Lloyds Register.
 
Contact Details of Lloyds Register: 
 
Historical Enquiries: 
Tel: +44 (0)20 7423 2531 
Email: histinfo@lr.org 
 
General Enquiries: 
Lloyd's Register of Shipping  
71 Fenchurch Street, London EC3M 4BS, UK 
Tel: +44 20 7709 9166 
Fax: +44 20 7488 4796 
Email: lloydsreg@lr.org  
 
Resources within Lloyds of note: 
 
Historical Resources: [
&lt;a href=&quot;<a href="http://www.lr.org/services_overview/shipping_information/is010lr_sources.htm">http://www.lr.org/services_overview/shipping_information/is010lr_sources.htm</a>&quot;&gt;<a href="http://www.lr.org/services_overview/shipping_information/is010lr_sources.htm">http://www.lr.org/services_overview/shipping_information/is010lr_sources.htm</a>&lt;/a&gt;
]
This page contains resources available to historians and interested
people.
 
Historical Research Service: [
&lt;a href=&quot;<a href="http://www.lr.org/services_overview/shipping_information/history_service.htm">http://www.lr.org/services_overview/shipping_information/history_service.htm</a>&quot;&gt;<a href="http://www.lr.org/services_overview/shipping_information/history_service.htm">http://www.lr.org/services_overview/shipping_information/history_service.htm</a>&lt;/a&gt;
]
This page details Lloyds Historical Research Service.   
 
Basic details on one ship, from £15 per ship.   
Full ship history, from £25 per ship. 
Historic Yacht plans/survey reports from £50 per Yacht. 
Historical Research from £25 per hour. 
 
Searches made: 
 
Lloyds Register of Shipping 
[ &lt;a href=&quot;<a href="://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&amp;amp;querytime=-ZMXjB&amp;amp;q=lloyds+register+of+shipping">://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&amp;amp;querytime=-ZMXjB&amp;amp;q=lloyds+register+of+shipping</a>&quot;&gt;<a href="://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&amp;amp;querytime=-ZMXjB&amp;amp;q=lloyds+register+of+shipping">://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&amp;amp;querytime=-ZMXjB&amp;amp;q=lloyds+register+of+shipping</a>&lt;/a&gt;
]
 
annual &amp;quot;vessels sunk&amp;quot; 
&lt;a href=&quot;<a href="://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&amp;amp;q=annual+%22vessels+sunk%22">://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&amp;amp;q=annual+%22vessels+sunk%22</a>&quot;&gt;<a href="://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&amp;amp;q=annual+%22vessels+sunk%22">://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&amp;amp;q=annual+%22vessels+sunk%22</a>&lt;/a&gt;
 
vessels sunk 
&lt;a href=&quot;<a href="://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&amp;amp;querytime=kB&amp;amp;q=vessels+sunk">://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&amp;amp;querytime=kB&amp;amp;q=vessels+sunk</a>&quot;&gt;<a href="://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&amp;amp;querytime=kB&amp;amp;q=vessels+sunk">://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&amp;amp;querytime=kB&amp;amp;q=vessels+sunk</a>&lt;/a&gt;
 
Thank you for using Google Answers, and I hope this covered your
Query.
 
LazerFX-ga  

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Request for Answer Clarification by sir-ga on 19 May 2002 16:04 PDT

lazerfx, 
Thanks sincerely for your efforts but I still do not have what I need.
  
Loyds is a good, albiet expensive resource however the numbers are not
usefull by themself because they only deal in large tonnage commercial
ships which represent a small portion of the total vessels lost to
sinkings.
 
For my work I especialy need to obtain numbers of crusing type, power
and sail boats and recreational boats that are lost each year.  These
are not included in lloyds..  Perhaps USCG (althoug this might not
include world wide statistics) or marine casualty actuarial studies
would have this information.  It would seem that in order to establish
a rate for marine casualty insurance theese guys would have to have
stats on where, what kind and how many vessels are lost.  Any
conference that theese guys go to would have to open with a report
containing these numbers as they are the basis of their industry. 
Also boating safety organizations, life raft manufacturers, epirb
manufacturers and the like should have these numbers.
sir  

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Clarification of Answer by lazerfx-ga on 20 May 2002 14:26 PDT

As has been mentioned in the comments, there is not really any one
source you can find for further information.  After doing quite a bit
of further research, I am afraid that the only thing I can reccomend
is contacting insurers directly to see if they have any information. 
I realise that this is a less-that optimal solution, in that it
entails a lot of calling around to different people.  To attempt to
make this somewhat easier, I have catalogued a few insurance services
that cover yachts and boats.
 
Fairmont Insurance [UK] 
[ &lt;a href=&quot;<a href="http://www.fairmontinsure.com/frameset.cfm">http://www.fairmontinsure.com/frameset.cfm</a>&quot;&gt;<a href="http://www.fairmontinsure.com/frameset.cfm">http://www.fairmontinsure.com/frameset.cfm</a>&lt;/a&gt; ] 
+44 (0) 20 7929 6886  [UK Number] 
 
Elton Porter Yacht Insurance [US] 
[ &lt;a href=&quot;<a href="http://epyachtinsurance.com/index.html">http://epyachtinsurance.com/index.html</a>&quot;&gt;<a href="http://epyachtinsurance.com/index.html">http://epyachtinsurance.com/index.html</a>&lt;/a&gt; ] 
(800) 759-2628 or (713) 772-2991  [US Numbers] 
 
Chubb Insurance Company of Canada 
[ &lt;a href=&quot;<a href="http://www.chubb.com/international/canada/englishnf/personal/insuringyacht.html">http://www.chubb.com/international/canada/englishnf/personal/insuringyacht.html</a>&quot;&gt;<a href="http://www.chubb.com/international/canada/englishnf/personal/insuringyacht.html">http://www.chubb.com/international/canada/englishnf/personal/insuringyacht.html</a>&lt;/a&gt;
]
No obvious telephone contact.  E-mail: gdamiano@chubb.com 
 
Douglas K. Smith Marine Insurance Services [US] 
[ &lt;a href=&quot;<a href="http://www.dksmarineinsurance.com/">http://www.dksmarineinsurance.com/</a>&quot;&gt;<a href="http://www.dksmarineinsurance.com/">http://www.dksmarineinsurance.com/</a>&lt;/a&gt; ] 
877-331-0572 (toll-free) or 619- 222-2560 [US Numbers] 
 
National Boat Owners Association [US] 
[ &lt;a href=&quot;<a href="http://www.nboat.com/">http://www.nboat.com/</a>&quot;&gt;<a href="http://www.nboat.com/">http://www.nboat.com/</a>&lt;/a&gt; ] 
800-248-3512 or 941-360-6777 [US Numbers] 
 
My apologies that I cannot do any more than this, however I am sure
you realise what an undertaking this would be.  I hope the information
I have given has provided you with some point of start to gather your
information, and apologise that I cannot be of any further service on
this question.
 
LazerFX-ga  

Reference to LLoyds is data source for big ships only.  This is
equivvalent to ananswering the question, How many people win the
lottery and where are they from?" and gettiong the answer,  "Theer is
a list of people who won over ten million dollars at xyz.com .  Only
one in 100,000 sinkings is a large ship.
Sir


I would like to up the price to $10.00 and repost this question.  I
will also add some clarification.  Thanx

Question:  Where can I find annual statistics providing the number,
type and
cause of vessels sunk in the U.S. and world wide. 

Answer:  To avoid having to compile the statistics yourself by
consulting numerous maritime insurance companies, Coast Guard agencies
and other military agencies and other sources, there are several
shipwreck databases you can refer to. Some of them must be purchased
as a CDROM or subscription service, however (these are aimed at
treasure seekers), but many are free services. In general, you need to
refine your search to focus on shipwreck “databases,” not “records” or
“statistics.”

I will provide 3 links here, the first of which is to the Wrecks and
Shipfinds Worldwide page, but be sure to check the database link I
provide at the bottom of the Answer under “Google Search Strategy”.

Wrecks and Shipfinds Worldwide page:
http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/wreckint.htm

Then, if you wish to narrow your search by regions, this link is to a
the Wreck Databases page listing shipwreck databases for various
regions of the world:

http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/wreckbas.htm

Finally, the following link is to the Northern Shipwrecks Database,
and includes records on over 100,000 wrecks, for northern waters.

http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~nmr/wrecks.html

Keep in mind that not all shipwrecks are underwater—many of the old
ones are now buried under land after shifting geological strata and
changing sea-levels over time.

Google search strategy:  “Shipwreck databases”
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=shipwreck+databases

All serious queries into shipwreck statistics and information are done
using these or similar databases. If you are pursuing a single wreck
in particular, then you would turn to specific insurance companies and
relevant military agencies or historical records.

I hope this information satisfactorily answers your question. Please
don’t hesitate to ask for further clarification. Good luck continuing
your inquiries!

Quote:

"Tens of thousands of boats of all types and sizes sink every year,
most of them at their dock. The exact number is not known because
there is no agency that keeps statistics. But just ask any marine
insurance company and they will tell you that the number is far too
high. In fact, sinking is the number one cause of major marine losses,
and one of the primary reasons why marine insurance costs so much."

     http://www.yachtsurvey.com/sinking.htm

Although I haven't been able to add to the official statistics
regarding boat sinkings in the USA or Worldwide, following is another
quote that stresses the lack of single agency reporting and the
fantastic general range of accidents (many of which may not involve
sinkings)

Quote:

"As more than 12.7 million recreational boats are registered
nationwide and with that number continually increasing, it is
imperative that boaters obtain and use boating safety information to
help reduce the number of boating accidents and fatalities.
 
According to the U.S. Coast Guard?s Recreational Boating Accident
Report Database (BARD), in 2000 there were 7,740 recreational boating
accidents reported, resulting in 4,355 injuries and 701 deaths. Coast
Guard reports show that only 5 to 10 percent of non-fatal boating
accidents are reported, meaning the actual number of boating accidents
was much higher than 7,740."

       http://www.nasbla.org/bairac.htm

lazerfx,
I'm not terribly net savy so accepting at face value your implication
that the information simply isn't out there means this is a
$500,000.00 dollar question not a $5.00 one.

Although I have a $500,000.00 curiosity I have a $5.00 need and a
$10.00 budget.  I'll up the ante and let this one ride a little longer
to see what happens.

Thanks for trying.

Sir