Where can I obtain a free (in english)copy on line of the dialog from the
circa 1735 play entitled, "Triumphe D L'Amore" which is currently a
film with Ben Kingsly.

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Request for Question Clarification by juggler-ga on 18 May 2002 23:36 PDT

Well, there's a free online French version. You sure that won't do?

Hi.

What I can do is basically to confirm what the other people said.

I searched for this book a little more than two hours, and all I found
was what bitmaven-ga found:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://marivaux.net/textes/triomphedelamour.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522triomphe%2Bde%2Bl%25E2%2580%2599amour%2522%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF8%26oe%3DUTF8

I found it by using this search term:
Marivaux "le triomphe de l'amour"
://www.google.com/search?num=30&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&safe=off&q=Marivaux+%22le+triomphe+de+l%27amour%22

But it's not however a translation from italian, but from french
(perhaps the one  juggler-ga referred to). And it isn't the first act
only. It's the whole play there.

The translation (although made by a machine) is pretty good. I read a
few lines and it seemed OK.

Since it is translated directly from french (not going though the
french->italian->english route), the translation is most likely very
accurate.

If you want it in french (to translate it with another automatic tool)
go to http://marivaux.net/textes/triomphedelamour.html.

The site features more plays. You can find them at
http://marivaux.net/pieces.html.

Note: Marivaux.net is the site of the "Société Marivaux".

Conclusion? I don't think there's another version online (especially
in english), so this one is "a gift from  heaven". Save it on your PC.
God knows, it can disappear any day.

Good luck.

ldcdc-ga

The answer to the question of "where can I find something free? is not
"You can't."  But hey these guys did a lot of work and came up with
good tangental info.  Thanks for the effort.

Hello,
The English title of the play you are referring to is, of course, _The
Triumph of Love_. The original play was written in French by Pierre
Marivaux and generally starred Italian comedians. Some sources state
the production date as 1735, others as 1732.
http://www.english.upenn.edu/~cmazer/triumph.html

English translations of the play were made by many people, the most
accepted being written by either Stephen Wadsworth or James Magruder.
Magruder later adapted the play into a Broadway musical which opened
in 1997. Although the French original should by now be available
freely in the public domain, the two English translations are less
than a decade old, and any distribution of the translations would
likely require the expressed permission of the authors and their
publishers. The Magruder paperback costs 5.95 on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0822214156/qid=1021795466/sr=1-9/ref=sr_1_9/102-6281016-1758521

Because no paid Google answerers have answered this, maybe you could
save 5 dollars and buy the book (I’m not an official Google answerer).

“Triumphe D L’Amore”
“Triumphe D’Amore”
“Triumphe” “L’Amore”
script, play, dialogue, 1732, magruder, 1735
“Stephen Wadsworth”

Hi, 

While this isn't money worthy, a few other sources (in addition to
those listed above) might be worthy to include.

The first is a brief bio page of sorts on Marivaux, the author, which
happens to have translations to the first Act, Scene 8 of the play. 
It can be found here:

http://www.geocities.com/saint-sulpice/triomphe.html

The second, is a link which through the google translation service
translates into english the first third of the play, from Itallian.
It can be found here:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://marivaux.net/textes/triomphedelamour.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522triomphe%2Bde%2Bl%25E2%2580%2599amour%2522%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF8%26oe%3DUTF8

I spent a bit of time, searching for all spellings and incarnations of
the Triumph of Love, but alas, aside from the for-sale versions, and
the few snippets I found, there wasn't much.

Sorry that there exists no online version in english.   

You might check back with project guttenberg every so often, if you're
really interested in an online version.   They tend to update their
materials fairly often.

They can be found at http://promo.net/pg/

Hope this helps. 

bitmaven-ga

Good day Juggler,

I have to agree that finding an English copy of this dialogue is quite
difficult. I managed to find an academic site that lists articles
related to Le Triumphe de L'Amore. For example, there is an English
article entitled "Hatred of the Philosopher: Notes for a
Psychoanalytical Reading of the 'Triomphe de l'Amour'" Perhaps this
will help you to understand the motivations and actions depicted in
the French play. It's located on the Penn State web site at
http://www.personal.psu.edu/special/C18/sr/sr02.htm.

Like Polypuga, I also discover that the original play from 1735 was in
fact adapted into English in 1997 for a Broadway musical called "The
Triumph of Love." I must agree with Polypuga's assertion that the
English version will be protected by copyright, while the French is
readily available. You will likely have to pay for the English version
as he/she has suggested you'll find at
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0822214156/qid=1021795466/sr=1-9/ref=sr_1_9/102-6281016-1758521

You will, however, find an English outline of the Broadway version in
two acts at: http://www.triumphoflove.de/story.html

For more on this production, go to:
http://www.perspicacity.com/elactheatre/library/playtitl.htm#LeTriomphedelamour

The Internet Broadway Database contains information about this New
York production, including opening night credits:
http://www.ibdb.com/production.asp?ID=4756

Following the link will take you directly to the French version in
HTML:
http://www.marivaux.net/textes/triomphedelamour.html.

Final suggestion:  Why not contact one of the academics at East L.A.
College. They kindly offer to answer any theatre question that you may
pose. You can send your question to mckayc@aol.com or through their
site at
http://www.perspicacity.com/elactheatre/

I hope this helps. To locate the text of the ballet in the original
French language, you might visit sites like The WWW Virtual Database
for Theatre and Drama at http://vl-theatre.com/... Search under ¨M¨
for Marivaux.  Or, a useful resource at the University of Toronto, at:
http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~trott/plays.htm#M


Search Strategy using Google:

- "triomphe de l'amour" + 1735
- mariveau + triomphe + english
- "theatre dialogue" + mariveau
- "Triumph of Love"

Good Day, sir-ga.

     Perhaps the closest you can get to a free script is to get your
hands on "The Spring 1999 issue of SHOW MUSIC magazine will feature
the complete libretto of the musical TRIUMPH OF LOVE, the only
published version of the 1997 Broadway musical. With the cooperation
of the book’s author, James Magruder, and lyricist, Susan Birkenhead,
this publication follows the first time SHOW MUSIC published a
libretto, which was the revised libretto of BIG in the Spring 1998
issue."
http://www.goodspeed.org/sm/tolnews.htm

Best,
Brad-ga