There has been a lot of negative information about Hearts. The pyramid
type investment scheme for Women which is going through the country 
(England)  We would like positive infromation only. We have read all
the negative and anti. This is for information for a guide book for
women and we want to put both sides of the story. So absolutely no
negatvie. Can you find any positve  information on it?

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Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 02 Mar 2003 05:35 PST

Hello deseven.  

I just wanted to make clear that the "Comments" section is open to all
-- not just to Researchers.  When an approved Google Answers
Researcher is ready to tackle your question, I'm sure you will receive
a professional, helpful response.

If you find a comment particularly inappropriate, you should notify
the Google Answer editors directly.  But beyond that, there is little
anyone can do about comments from the peanut gallery.

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Clarification of Question by deseven-ga on 05 Mar 2003 22:55 PST

I am not sure what is wanted here but I do not want anymore comments.
What I want to know is as i have said several times is is there any
websites that people have put up with positive infromation on Hearts.
In all my previous questions of which there have been many. most
historical I have received a list of relevant websies if none can be
found please just put non found and i will close the question. I am
not shying away from negative information as I quite clearly siad I
have already read it.

There is no positive side to a pyramid scheme, except for the very few
people at the top of the pyramid who are able to make a profit. The
great majority of women who "invest" in things like Hearts lose their
money, and I cannot see a positive side to that.

This is a biased an totally unsatisfactory comment. Please do not ever
let this researcher lose on my questions again. I know of plenty of
positive things about Hearts. I want to know if any one has put any
positive stuff on a website. This is the only disappointing response I
have had with all the questions I have asked. It is not helpful to
hear the personal prejudices of the researcher. Please Change
researchers and let me have an answer to the question 'Has anything
positive been put on a website?' I said i do not want anything
negative. I know about it already

deseven...

magnesium is not a researcher. This person is only making a comment
same as me. Lots of times questions interest even us " ordinary folk "
so please do not attack. Researcher's author's names show up in blue
under comment section.

Hi deseven,

First - note that I am a Google Answers Researcher, but am posting
this as a comment because it does not provide exactly what you
requested. It does however provide information that you or other
researchers may find useful. You will not be charged until someone
posts an actual Answer in the Answer space, and until your question
expires, any researcher may work on it and potentially provide an
answer.

To satisfy my own curiosity, I put several hours into researching your
question. I went in unbiased since I had never heard of Hearts, but
frankly, could find nothing positive to say about it. It takes only
elementary math to see why most people have to be losers in the scheme
in order for a few people to be winners and to see why the entire
pyramid is doomed to topple after just a few rounds. There simply
aren't enough people.

My suggestion to you, if you want ONLY positive remarks, would be to
find a woman who satisfies the following criteria and get a quote from
her  --

1 - got into the scheme early so was a "winner."
2 - does not feel guilty that she won at the expense of her family and
friends
3 - has not been victim of retaliation, legal action, or anger from
those she drew into the scheme.

Watch your local papers, chat groups, women's clubs, etc. since the
"winners" tend to talk about their win and get more press than the
losers. (Losers tend to not want exposure because they feel like they
should have been smarter.)

Or attend one of the many meetings that the WEW hosts to recruit new
members. The people running these meetings will have plenty of good
things to say about Hearts.

Other than that, I'm afraid I can't help you. 

-K~

I am stillnot getting my question answered and I do not want comments
such as the ones I have received. I understand that some people making
comments are not researchers but I do expect the questios to be
answered directly as i asked from researchers. I did not know that
anyone could add a comment. How unfortunate.  There is a lot of
ppositive stuff about Hearts and knowlegeseeker ga should if a women
go to a meeting The groups vary in their integrity. It is not making
money off the backs of anyone more than any investment scheme. They do
not invest in arms to Iraq or cigarettes to the third world. etc. I
have lost far more on my private pension scheme than I could ever lose
in hearts. and some fat cat has got my hard earned money. All
investment is a risk.but this less than most. People get inpatient.
The people i know  have made seven hundred percent in under a year.
The gropu here is based on friendhip and integrity with a contingency
plan in operation. So it is not always good to tow the party line on
things . There are always two or more sides

I am still waiting for an answer on this. Positive information only.
No more comments please

knowledgeseeker-ga I suggest you live up to your  name and try and see
beyond propaganda. That was a very sneeky comment and bore no
ressemblance to the truth of the situation.

Dear deseven, 

First of all, you may want to know that you are not charged for an
answer until you get it, and comments do not consist of an answer. The
reason Knowledge Seeker-ga posted their comment was exactly because it
was not the answer you were seeking, only the information they found
so far.

Actually, Knowledge Seeker was also providing you "leads" on finding
"positive" views on Hearts, such as attending their recruiting
meetings.

May I also ask, if you're looking for a well balanced book to write,
why are you shying away from negative information?

I know that you have asked not to add more "not positive" information,
but if you are planning to write a book about it, you should be better
aware that the government had published a warning against "Hearts"
http://www.dti.gov.uk/ccp/topics1/wew.htm

It seemed that you are dissapointed of the comments you receieved so
far. However, contrary to the common myth, not everything is readily
available online for research, and it is sometimes very difficult to
find the exact information you're seeking, from indepedent sources
(not the company itself).

To politicalguru-ga  
If you read my orginal question you will see I said we already have
the negative information.  I am trying to right a balanced account. I
do not trust the government on most issues. They do not like Hearts
because there is no Tax involved and financial advicers dont like it
because there is no fat cat taking a rake off. Many men dont like it
because it is women supporting women and that is exactly what the
local group does.  As i said i have lost a great deal in so called
legitimate investment and pensions. Also what my money was invested in
is far from ethical All investment in our pll be on the backs of the
third world directly or indirectly. This is not so with hearts. I hope
you pick up this comment .It sems people make comments and do not want
to hear the answer. White collar crime is wide spread and very little
is done about it. Hearts is relatively harmless. Yes the government
would write a book warmimg against it. I know about it. So please look
at my original question

deseven,

From reading all your questions, it is clear to me that you are doing
a great job of trying to put together a good, balanced and
comprehensive resource for women. The fact that it is important to you
to present all sides of an issue and let the women decide for
themselves how they feel about it is a testament to your fairness and
objectivity.

Because you are so fair and open-minded, I know that you will give
this question the consideration it deserves: Many Researchers have
searched for positive information on the "Hearts" program, and with
the exception of biased propaganda from the people who stand to make
money off of other people, Researchers have not been able to find any
credible sources on the positive aspects of "Hearts". Are you willing
to consider the possibility that this is because there really aren't
any?

You've stated that "Hearts" is harmless. To the people who have made
money from it, that is true. But has it been harmless to the hundreds
of women who have lost substantial amounts of money -- some of them
even their life savings?

Yes, there are always two sides to every situation. But in many cases,
the balance of the two sides is not even, but extremely lopsided. It
would appear that this is the case with "Hearts" as well.

Best wishes!

sillykitty

To sillykitty
Good name.
  I am genuinely trying to give a balance account on many subjects.
and general information. This has bought a storm. I have learnt
nothing about Hearts but a great deal about prejudice and  and
inability to hear oout the other side. I have found a great deal that
is good about Hearts but not on the web and I now know why. It all
depends on the group Some have been going far too fast and people have
been making silly money. They will naturally slow down. Peoples
expectations have and they get impatient.  Thats when things go wrong.
If it took three years it would still be a good return. People go in
and expect something for nothing. it is supposed to be based on
integrity and friendship regular gatherings a which pople should
attend and bring people along to make up their own minds.  Not just
expect a quick return for nothing. This  way if it is done properly
groups do keep going. friends are made and many people are sponsored
who cant afford it. This is the really good bit. THE SPONSORSHIP.   So
anythhing will go wrong if not managed properly and people have got
greedy. I noticed that no one made any omments about the amount of
money lost on so called legitimate investment and what  our side of
the worlds investments does to the third world etc. Too painful I
guess.

So there is good and it is helping a lot of people.
I hope you read this comment becaue it is a shame to have biases when
with a little effort they could be balanced