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Subject:
Searching with google!
Category: Computers Asked by: mork-ga List Price: $4.00 |
Posted:
19 May 2002 23:25 PDT
Expires: 19 May 2003 23:25 PDT Question ID: 17030 |
A question of curiosity about using Google. Twice now, I have had occasions where I wished to include a specific negative number in my search query. The '-' symbol seems to always be used as an exclusion operator no matter what I try to do. As such, including a negative number in a query, such as -4 for example, is very difficult. The researchers here claim to be expert googlers, so I ask this question out of curiosity and I am willing to be the money for a definitive response. Please do not 'answer' the question with "I don't know" "try a different search engine" "try finding a diffferent query to use for your search". I expect to be able to search for the query '-4' and all of the results should display pages containing that in text. |
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Re: Searching with google!
Answered By: alexander-ga on 20 May 2002 14:15 PDT |
It is impossible to execute this query with Google, as Google does not index punctuation or whitespace. Indexing is the core technology behind all search engines. By building a database of which words are contained on which pages, it's possible to execute a complex search on a massive source (the entire web) very quickly. Without an index, a search engine would have to examine each page individually, which would be VERY time-consuming on a large database. Punctuation may not be indexed for a variety of reasons, including the fact that it would substantially increase the index size while offering only limited benefit. Google's main index is already so massive that it is only updated about once a month. You can prove to yourself that Google does not index punctuation by trying to search for anything including non-operator punctuation. As an example, the results for "2/4" and "2=4" are identical, and most of the results do not include either of the terms. Instead, this query is interpreted as "2 immediately followed by 4, ignoring any whitespace or punctuation between them." |
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Re: Searching with google!
From: andy_uk-ga on 20 May 2002 08:07 PDT |
Hi, You are getting bad results because the minus sign "-" is a specific operator in google searches, namely do not include the word after the minus symbol. You are actually searching for all pages that DO NOT INCLUDE the number 4! A workaround would be to search for the phrase "-4" (with the quotes") but unfortunately, because of it's use as an operator, google does not index the "-" symbol on pages as far as I know. Hope that helps, Andy |
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Re: Searching with google!
From: webadept-ga on 20 May 2002 10:06 PDT |
Hi, Using the "-4" won't work either, the engine apparently sees the "-" as an operator even inside the quotes. There is a way of searching for this, and I was going to give you it as an answer, but then discovered it wouldn't do you any good. As our friend states in the comment above, Google doesn't index the "-" as a searchable character on a page. You can test this by using this hyperlink, which forces a search for "-4" : ://www.google.com/search?q=-4&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&as_qdr=all Thanks for the question webadept-ga |
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Re: Searching with google!
From: ken42-ga on 22 May 2002 18:53 PDT |
If i do a google search with "-4" i get 451,000,000 pages back. You need the quotes in the query. ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22-4%22 |
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