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cancer developing in a stem cell
Category: Science > Biology Asked by: tammy1234-ga List Price: $15.00 |
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16 Mar 2003 23:09 PST
Expires: 16 Apr 2003 00:09 PDT Question ID: 177207 |
Why would cancer developing in a stem cell in the basal layer of the skin's epidermis be potentially more harmful than cancer arising in a specialized cell above it? |
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Re: cancer developing in a stem cell
From: xarqi-ga on 16 Mar 2003 23:17 PST |
The three main skin cancers are basal cell carcinoma, squamous cell carcinoma, and melanoma. By far the worst is melanoma. Melanocytes reside in the layer at the bottom of the epidermis. It is not clear whether melanomas arise from fully commited melanocytes, or less differentiated melanoblasts, or both. So - I think the answer is - underlying cell type is more important than level of differentiation. Beyond that, with melanomas anyway, no distinction has been drawn based on the degree of differentiation of the initial aberrant cell. |
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Re: cancer developing in a stem cell
From: tehuti-ga on 17 Mar 2003 02:44 PST |
Hello Tammy, I'm not sure about the validity of the statement; in what context have you come across it? Basal cell carcinoma is freqently slow-growing, rarely metastisizes and, with treatment, usually has a good prognosis. |
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Re: cancer developing in a stem cell
From: xarqi-ga on 17 Mar 2003 03:09 PST |
I think we have to be careful to distinguish between basal keratinocytes (that may lead to basal cell carcinoma), and other cell types that may exist in the epidermal stratum basale, notably the melanocyte, but possibly including precursor cells of both types. My take on the question is that it seeks clarification of the increased severity of tumours arising from less differentiated cells in the basal layer, not necessarily keratinocytes, versus tumours arising from fully differentiated cells. There may be some marker studies where there is expression of "less differentiated" proteins, but it is never clear whether this is due to the tumour arising from a precursor cell, or due to aberrant expression in a fully differentiated cell. Tricky business this tumorigenesis stuff. |
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Re: cancer developing in a stem cell
From: tehuti-ga on 17 Mar 2003 03:58 PST |
Less differentiated tumours are generally more aggressive than better-differentiated ones. However, is that due to the extent that dedifferentiation has occurred rather than to the original level of differentiation of the initial tumour cell? I was always taught that it is the extent to which the tumour cell has become different from its original self that determines aggressiveness, most particularly with respect to the *change* in rate of division and to the way it responds to normal growth-regulatory mechanisms. As far as I know, adult skin stem cells are highly responsive to growth regulation. Are they susceptible to dedifferentiation and is this likely to make them more "embryonic-like" and therefore more likely to go out of control? The evidence seems to be against this, since basal cell carcinomas, which arise from one type of precursor cell in the skin, are not as aggressive as some other skin cancers. The aggressiveness of melanoma has been attributed to the migratory characteristics of melanocytes, rather than to their original level of differentiation. The trouble is that we do not know from where this question has arisen. Does it expect a hypothesis to be developed from a set of facts that have been presented, in a lecture for example? If yes, the hypothesis might or might not reflect reality. |
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Re: cancer developing in a stem cell
From: xarqi-ga on 17 Mar 2003 14:09 PST |
My, doubtless imperfect, understanding is that the notion of "dedifferentiation" is losing popularity. Histologically, it may be a useful concept, and as tehuti says, there is an association between tumour aggressiveness and cell morphology. However, at a molecular level, it seems unlikely that the programme of differentiation that a cell has followed can be somehow reversed. Recent studies concerning the partitioning or mRNA species facilitated by centrosomes suggests that the process is in effect irreversible, as it should be. Other aspects of the differentiation program are implemented by transcriptional silencing, either through the enhanced production of transcriptional repressors (often creating positive feed-back), or through gene methylation. What can easily happen is that genetic changes, often MAJOR, that can be brought about by increased genomic instability in cancer cells, can lead to the re-expression of proteins associated with earlier states of differentiation. Similarly, changes in phenotype or morphology can occur that may echo those of other cells, including the ancestors of the cell in question. |
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Re: cancer developing in a stem cell
From: tehuti-ga on 17 Mar 2003 14:40 PST |
Int J Cancer 2003 Mar 1;103(6):709-16 Matrix metalloproteinase-19 is expressed by proliferating epithelium but disappears with neoplastic dedifferentiation. Impola U, Toriseva M, Suomela S, Jeskanen L, Hieta N, Jahkola T, Grenman R, Kahari VM, Saarialho-Kere U. Cancer Lett 2003 Mar 20;192(1):83-7 p130 expression in thyroid neoplasms: its linkage with tumor size and dedifferentiation. Ito Y, Yoshida H, Uruno T, Nakano K, Takamura Y, Miya A, Kobayashi K, Yokozawa T, Matsuzuka F, Kuma K, Miyauchi A. Curr Biol 2003 Jan 21;13(2):134-9 Dedifferentiation of Primary Spermatocytes into Germ Cell Tumors in C. elegans Lacking the Pumilio-like Protein PUF-8. Subramaniam K, Seydoux G. |
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Re: cancer developing in a stem cell
From: xarqi-ga on 17 Mar 2003 15:17 PST |
Hi tehuti! Your first paper refers specifically to "histologic dedifferentiation". In the second, "dedifferentiation" does not appear in the paper abstract, so it is hard to judge what they are saying or what importance they place on it - short of getting the paper. The third paper appears to relate to a knock-out experiment in C. elegans. The researchers have disrupted the function of a particular gene and found that it plays a role in differentiation of this cell type by blocking mitosis. Take out the gene - the cells can again divide - a sort of de-differentiation I guess. If I overexpress ras to cause a similar effect, is this dedifferentiation? The crux of the question posed was whether tumours arising from stem cells in the skin were more likely to be aggressive (as I understand it). I'm not sure if this is known with any certainty. Dedifferentiation, whether it is a bona fide phenomenon or not, is probably not an issue here. |
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Re: cancer developing in a stem cell
From: tehuti-ga on 17 Mar 2003 16:29 PST |
In database indexing and searching, the appearance of a word in a title is normally taken to be of greatest significance in judging the "aboutness" of a paper (setting aside titles which try to be funny or too clever). I was merely trying to point out that the term dedifferentiation retains sufficient clarity of meaning to be used in this age. I agree the question is about the potential aggressiveness of tumours arising from stem cells. However, the nearest real example we have of this is the basal cell carcinoma, which is not particularly aggressive. That is why I wonder if this question deals with real or hypothetical situations. |
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Re: cancer developing in a stem cell
From: amanda17uk-ga on 28 Mar 2003 22:38 PST |
stem cells divide to give daughter cells. When they divide,one remains at the basal layer and continues as a stem cell. The other goes on to specialise-moving through the 5 epidermal layers to the outside. So a cancer mutation in a stem cell will be passed on to all its 'daughters' and groups of cancer cells lead to tumours. A mutation in a specialised cell(i.e. not a stem cell) will be lost with the skin cell when it sloughs from the skins surface. |
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Re: cancer developing in a stem cell
From: xarqi-ga on 28 Mar 2003 23:52 PST |
What amanda1 says may be true for keratinocytes, as they differentiate to squamous cells and ultimately are lost. However, the mutation that occurs may interfere with the differentiation and migration process. Melanocytes, however, remain in the stratum basale, at the interface between the epidermis and the dermis. Tumours of melanocytic lineage are far more aggressive, and have a much poorer prognosis if not treated early, than other skin cancers. |
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