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Subject:
"burning a clutch"
Category: Sports and Recreation > Automotive Asked by: whitney-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
16 Mar 2003 23:56 PST
Expires: 16 Apr 2003 00:56 PDT Question ID: 177214 |
i have had a new sports car for a little over a week. it has a standard transmission. i let a friend drive it last night who i mistakenly believed knew how to use a stickshift. in fact, i was somehow so confident in my friend's ability to drive the car, when my friend started revving the engine while driving, i assumed it was just showboating. moments later, a horrible burning smell filled the air. i told my friend to pull over. my friend shrugged off the incident as a "heavy clutch" perhaps to save face. this burning smell was present for another hour. later that night and today, i've noticed a new behavior. in both cases, after driving the car for more than a half hour continuously, the car tends to vibrate when between 2nd and 4th gears. how likely is it that these two events are related or am i just being paranoid because of the new car? should i take the car directly to a repair shop before i drive it any more? |
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Re: "burning a clutch"
Answered By: revbrenda1st-ga on 18 Mar 2003 19:29 PST Rated: |
Hi, whitney, Some questions: Was the vibration you've described there before your friend drove the vehicle? Is your vehicle under a warranty? You say it's a new car, but do you mean brand new or new to you -- usually even a used car (from a lot - not a private deal) has a 30 day warranty. What make, model and year is this vehicle? When do you get this vibration -- we understand the gears in question -- but, does it also occur when you are just sitting still and rev the engine or only when you let the clutch out and accelerate? My husband, a mechanic of many years, has this opinion: There is a good chance your clutch has been over-heated to the point that the clutch disc and/or pressure plate has been damaged, resulting in the vibrations you've been experiencing. Riding the clutch and revving the motor would result in the burning smell you've reported. We suggest you take it back to the place from which you purchased the vehicle. There is no guarantee that the (if you have one) warranty will cover this situation. Your conscience will dictate whether or not you report your 'friend's' participation in the situation. Best advice: Don't let your hot-dog friends drive your vehicles. I've asked some questions which you should feel free to answer for purposes of clarification. You don't know me from Adam, so I'll understand that you might want to check further into this, but I'm here to tell you that if my husband says your clutch is wrecked, it's well and truly wrecked. Take the car back from whence it came. I wish you well, revbrenda1dst |
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Re: "burning a clutch"
From: feilong-ga on 17 Mar 2003 00:03 PST |
"...car tends to vibrate when between 2nd and 4th gears." You may not have noticed it but it is possible that you were not driving on a smooth road. |
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Re: "burning a clutch"
From: whitney-ga on 17 Mar 2003 01:09 PST |
i considered that possibility in both cases as i would prefer that to be the explanation. i guess i should be more descriptive than "vibrate". it wasn't the kind of vibration i would associate with a bad road. in both cases, there was the same distinct ominous low-pitched noise that just didn't seem correlated to the road condition. |
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Re: "burning a clutch"
From: whitney-ga on 17 Mar 2003 01:16 PST |
another piece of info is that today it was evident that the vibration/noise would go away when i put it into 5th gear. this appeared to be consistently reproducible. the previous night, the new undesirable behavior happened in a neighborhood so i never saw what would happen if it went into 5th. |
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Re: "burning a clutch"
From: xarqi-ga on 17 Mar 2003 01:37 PST |
You may find that the vibration occurs when the engine is going at a certain speed. A "sports car" should have a tachometer - calibrated in rpm. See if the vibration occurs in the same rpm band irrespective of gear. You may pass through this band very quickly while accelerating in low gears, but may spend more time in it in higher gears, and may even sit in it all the time while cruising. If you have such a resonance, it is unlikely to be the clutch. It may be a vibrating belt or some other fitting or engine component. If the car is under earranty, especially if it is new, this is something that should be fixed. It could be in the exhaust system - stainless steel exhausts are renowned for such buzzing. Could also be a wheel alignment problem if it is particular road speed that brings it on. In this case, it will be felt through the steering wheel more than heard. Hope this helps a bit. |
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Re: "burning a clutch"
From: whitney-ga on 17 Mar 2003 07:39 PST |
thanks for the feedback but this doesn't sound similar to the symptom i was having as the noise/vibration was continuous through several gears until i put it in 5th and then it went away. |
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Re: "burning a clutch"
From: pinkfreud-ga on 17 Mar 2003 07:44 PST |
I once had a similar problem with my 1968 Volkswagen Beetle. In my case, replacing the steering damper solved the problem. |
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Re: "burning a clutch"
From: jbf777-ga on 17 Mar 2003 07:51 PST |
Bring it in. jbf777-ga |
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Re: "burning a clutch"
From: johnfrommelbourne-ga on 17 Mar 2003 23:38 PST |
The smell would have been something akin to burnt sugar ,if you know what that is like. It was probably caused by your mate "riding"the clutch while still revving the engine to prevent stalling. The lower gears are harder to enage properly with a burnt clutch as the grip is no longer there to a sufficient degree having been sheared off by your mate; ah buddy? pal? I mean.The grip is often made from asbestos, in Australia at least. The grip required is not as great in top gear if car is running on the flat or not being laboured so therefore your experience of no problem in 5th gear. Vibration does quite sound like what I would have called the problem faced in second gear witha burnt clutch however. Good Luck. P.S Replacing clutch is a simple matter of intermediate cost |
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Re: "burning a clutch"
From: xarqi-ga on 18 Mar 2003 00:24 PST |
There is a simple test for a slipping clutch. Engage the hand-brake (aka parking brake). Put the car in first gear, and try to drive off, slowly releasing the clutch as usual. If, no matter how gentle you are, the engine stalls, the clutch is fine. You can also try it in reverse, but this is usually a very strong gear, and you may be able to move a bit. Bear in mind that this test makes two parts of the car work against each other, so should not be done too frequently. BTW, do you belong to - or have access to some car club or road-side assistance service? It could be worth a visit from them. I'm a bit concerned that there may be a gear-box flaw - perhaps in one of the cogs that is common to 3rd and 4th, but no other gear. I'm certainly not an expert in these things though. |
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Re: "burning a clutch"
From: shockwaveracing-ga on 20 Mar 2003 19:02 PST |
Sounds like a possible cracked pressure plate. Engine speed and drive-line speed will affect the vibration. Excessive "riding the clutch" will cause the pressure plate to generate excessive heat causing small fractures to occur when it cools. I race and see this problem on occasion. Get your car to a good mechanic and have this checked out. Pressure plate failures are very bad things. |
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