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Subject: Painting (art) in postwar europe 1945 - 1959
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Books and Literature
Asked by: jt99-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 18 Mar 2003 06:21 PST
Expires: 17 Apr 2003 07:21 PDT
Question ID: 177709
I would like to know if there is an english translation available of
the following book: Title - Un Art Autre: Author - Michel Tapie:
Publisher - Gabriel-Giraud et Fils - 1 Rue des Italiens, Paris-1x: 
Paris 1952
Thank you, J.T.
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Subject: Re: Painting (art) in postwar europe 1945 - 1959
Answered By: hummer-ga on 19 Mar 2003 14:31 PST
Rated:4 out of 5 stars
 
Hi J.T., 

Below is a copy of my comment that I posted yesterday plus I've added
alittle bit to the end.

Following an extensive online search for "Art of Another Kind"
(English
translation of "Un Art Autre"), we have found no evidence of an
English edition, only an English exerpt within another book.

 
Michel Tapié, Art of Another Kind: 
[An Exerpt From: Ferrier, Jean-Louis, Director and Yann le Pichon,
Walter D. Glanze [English Translation]. Art of Our Century, The
Chronicle of Western Art, 1900 to the Present. New York: Prentice-Hall
Editions. 1988. p. 495]
http://www.noteaccess.com/APPROACHES/Michel.htm 
 
 
Additional Links: 
 
Guggenheim Museum - Art Informel / Tapié: 
http://www.guggenheimcollection.org/site/movement_works_ArtInformel_0.html
 
about Tapié & book 
http://digilander.libero.it/biblioego/Tapie.htm 
 
* L'exposition "Tapié, un art autre" 
http://www2.ac-toulouse.fr/lyc-bellevue-toulouse/travelev/tapie.htm 
 
"Un Art Autre" is for sale here: 
Andrew D.Washton - Books: 
http://www.washtonbooks.com/mono146p2.htm 
1245.TAPIE. Michel Tapie. Un Art Autre ou il s’Agit de Nouveaux
Devidages
du Reel. Paris, 1952.. Sm. qto, unpgd., with num. b/w plates. Wrs.,
minor soiling and sl. wear. The colophon states that this was issued
in 1000 numbered copies, this one is not numbed, but is inscribed on
the half title by the artist to Mrs. And Mrs. Georges Seligmann 100.00
 
On-Line Picasso Project:  
"In literature: Art of Another Kind by Michel Tapie. This essay will 
undoubtedly be long remembered. His thesis is that we must brake with
the past, abandoning even the apparently revolutionary movements such
as Fauvism and Cubism, which did not radically break with traditional
art (Ferrier & Le Pichon
1999, 495)." 
http://www.tamu.edu/mocl/picasso/tour/t52d.html 
 
 
We searched "Michel Tapié" at the following large libraries. We
believe if an English version were available, it would be listed at at
least one of these libraries, and it is not.
 
COPAC University Research Library catalogue (start page): 
http://www.copac.ac.uk/copac/ 
COPAC record (1 of 55 records for Michel Tapié): 
Main Author: Tapié, Michel, 1909-1987 
Title Details: Un art autre ; où il s'agit de nouveaux dévidages du
réel /
Michel Tapié 
Publisher: Paris : Gabriel-Giraud, 1952 
Physical desc.: unpaged : illus ; 25 cm 
Subject:Art, Abstract 
Language: French 
 
Getty Inst Research Library catalogue search: 
http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/iris/ 
Un art autre = 1 of 41 records for Tapié 
The Getty (home) - The J.Paul Getty Trust: 
http://www.getty.edu/ 
 
Library of Congress search: 
http://catalog.loc.gov/ 
25 records for Michel Tapié 
 
Bibliothéque nationale de France: 
http://www.bnf.fr/pages/zNavigat/frame/catalog.htm 
 
Searched Michel Tapié at BNF: 
http://catalogue2.bnf.fr/servlet/notices;jsessionid=FVWWCJ3HHKY1MWCQYZPTQZI?ID=11464747,11694696,10927410,10292704&idNoeud=1.4&NomAutorite=
 
BNF search turned up this 1994 facsimile of the French version: 
Type: texte imprimé, monographie 
Auteur(s): Tapié, Michel (1909-1987) 
Titre(s): Un art autre [Texte imprimé] / Michel Tapié... 
Edition: [Reprod. en fac-sim.] 
Publication: Paris (9 Av. Matignon, 75008) : Artcurial, 1994 
Imprimeur / Fabricant: 92-Le Plessis-Robinson : Impr. Blanchard fils 
Description matérielle: Non paginé [146] p.: ill., couv. ill. en
coul.; 25 cm
Note(s): En appendice, catalogue de l'exposition "Quelque chose de
très mystérieux: intuitions esthétiques de Michel Tapié" présentée à
Paris, Artcurial, 1994 Reproduction: Fac-sim. de l'éd. de Paris:
Gabriel-Giraud et fils, 1952
Quelque chose de très mystérieux - Autre(s) titre(s) conventionnel(s):
  [Exposition. Paris. Artcurial. 1994]
Sujet(s): Tapié , Michel (1909-....) Peinture -- 1945-.... --
Expositions
http://catalogue2.bnf.fr/servlet/biblio;jsessionid=FVWWCJ3HHKY1MWCQYZPTQZI?ID=35723827&idNoeud=1.4.10

I have been thinking about you since the time I posted my comment and
there is one last thing you can do. If you feel up to checking fifty
years worth of the Cummulative Book Index (CBI), it is an option. It
indexes all English language books published anywhere in the world
from 1898. You'll find a good description of it here:
http://www.lib.muohio.edu/research/indexes/description/57?print=1
Unfortunately, the on-line index covers only 1982 onward. The print
editions can be found at most large libraries, usually in the
reference section. It will be a matter of looking in each book and
searching for the title "Art of Another Kind", beginning in 1952 and
continuing all the way up to the present. If you can't find the book
listed in the CBI, you can be certain that an English edition was
never published.

In regards to this:

Read the foreword by Rodulphe Stadler: 
I have emailed Michael Stevenson in the event he would know of an
English version and will let you know his response.
http://www.michaelstevenson.com/exhibitions/christo/introduction.htm 

Unfortunately, I have discovered that the Stadler Gallery has closed.
 
I hope this helps. If you have any questions, please post a
clarification before rating my answer.
 
Thank you, 
hummer
jt99-ga rated this answer:4 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $1.00
I think you tried very hard to find an answer to my question, Thank
you! also, some of the links you provided will prove helpful with
research in similar areas.  I will certainly use the service again.

Comments  
Subject: Re: Painting (art) in postwar europe 1945 - 1959
From: hummer-ga on 18 Mar 2003 12:22 PST
 
Hi J.T.,

Following an extensive search for "Art of Another Kind" (English
translation of "Un Art Autre"), we have found no evidence of an
English edition, only an English exerpt within another book.

Michel Tapié, Art of Another Kind:
[An Exerpt From: Ferrier, Jean-Louis, Director and Yann le Pichon,
Walter D. Glanze [English Translation]. Art of Our Century, The
Chronicle of Western Art, 1900 to the Present. New York: Prentice-Hall
Editions. 1988. p. 495]
http://www.noteaccess.com/APPROACHES/Michel.htm


Additional Links:

Guggenheim Museum - Art Informel / Tapié:
http://www.guggenheimcollection.org/site/movement_works_ArtInformel_0.html

about Tapié & book
http://digilander.libero.it/biblioego/Tapie.htm

* L'exposition "Tapié, un art autre"
http://www2.ac-toulouse.fr/lyc-bellevue-toulouse/travelev/tapie.htm

"Un Art Autre" is for sale here:
Andrew D.Washton - Books:
http://www.washtonbooks.com/mono146p2.htm
1245.TAPIE. Michel Tapie. Un Art Autre ou il s’Agit de Nouveaux
Devidages
du Reel. Paris, 1952.. Sm. qto, unpgd., with num. b/w plates. Wrs.,
minor soiling and sl. wear. The colophon states that this was issued
in 1000 numbered copies, this one is not numbed, but is inscribed on
the half title by the artist to Mrs. And Mrs. Georges Seligmann 100.00

On-Line Picasso Project: 
"In literature: Art of Another Kind by Michel Tapie. This essay will
undoubtedly be long remembered. His thesis is that we must brake with
the past, abandoning even the apparently revolutionary movements such
as Fauvism and Cubism, which did not radically break with traditional
art (Ferrier & Le Pichon
1999, 495)."
http://www.tamu.edu/mocl/picasso/tour/t52d.html

Read the foreword by Rodulphe Stadler:
I have emailed Michael Stevenson in the event he would know of an
English version and will let you know his response.
http://www.michaelstevenson.com/exhibitions/christo/introduction.htm

We searched "Michel Tapié" at the following large libraries. We
believe if an English version were available, it would be listed at at
least one of these libraries, and it is not.

COPAC University Research Library catalogue (start page):
http://www.copac.ac.uk/copac/
COPAC record (1 of 55 records for Michel Tapié):
Main Author: Tapié, Michel, 1909-1987
Title Details: Un art autre ; où il s'agit de nouveaux dévidages du
réel /
Michel Tapié
Publisher: Paris : Gabriel-Giraud, 1952
Physical desc.: unpaged : illus ; 25 cm
Subject:Art, Abstract
Language: French

Getty Inst Research Library catalogue search:
http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/iris/
Un art autre = 1 of 41 records for Tapié
The Getty (home) - The J.Paul Getty Trust:
http://www.getty.edu/

Library of Congress search:
http://catalog.loc.gov/
25 records for Michel Tapié

Bibliothéque nationale de France:
http://www.bnf.fr/pages/zNavigat/frame/catalog.htm

Searched Michel Tapié at BNF:
http://catalogue2.bnf.fr/servlet/notices;jsessionid=FVWWCJ3HHKY1MWCQYZPTQZI?ID=11464747,11694696,10927410,10292704&idNoeud=1.4&NomAutorite=

BNF search turned up this 1994 facsimile of the French version:
Type: texte imprimé, monographie
Auteur(s): Tapié, Michel (1909-1987)
Titre(s): Un art autre [Texte imprimé] / Michel Tapié...
Edition: [Reprod. en fac-sim.]
Publication: Paris (9 Av. Matignon, 75008) : Artcurial, 1994
Imprimeur / Fabricant: 92-Le Plessis-Robinson : Impr. Blanchard fils
Description matérielle: Non paginé [146] p.: ill., couv. ill. en
coul.; 25 cm
Note(s): En appendice, catalogue de l'exposition "Quelque chose de
très mystérieux: intuitions esthétiques de Michel Tapié" présentée à
Paris, Artcurial, 1994 Reproduction: Fac-sim. de l'éd. de Paris:
Gabriel-Giraud et fils, 1952
Quelque chose de très mystérieux - Autre(s) titre(s) conventionnel(s):
  [Exposition. Paris. Artcurial. 1994]
Sujet(s): Tapié , Michel (1909-....) Peinture -- 1945-.... --
Expositions
http://catalogue2.bnf.fr/servlet/biblio;jsessionid=FVWWCJ3HHKY1MWCQYZPTQZI?ID=35723827&idNoeud=1.4.10

It is very difficult to prove that something doesn't exist. I'll post
this as a comment to give other researchers an opportunity to find
evidence of an English version and if none is found, I'll post this as
an answer twenty-four hours from now.

Thank you,
hummer
Subject: Re: Painting (art) in postwar europe 1945 - 1959
From: hummer-ga on 20 Mar 2003 11:07 PST
 
Dear J.T.,

Thank you for your nice note, rating, and tip - I'm happy you are
happy. One wee clarification - my answer to your question "I would
like to know if there is an english translation available..." was "No"
(perhaps I was unclear on this point). All the rest of my research was
just trying to determine for you if there had even been an English
edition published.

Again, thank you,
hummer

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