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Subject: Grouping Messages in Outlook
Category: Computers > Software
Asked by: mtny-ga
List Price: $5.00
Posted: 24 May 2002 08:46 PDT
Expires: 23 Jun 2002 08:46 PDT
Question ID: 17810
In MS Outlook, how would i group messages by date( to the day, not to
the minute).  Currently when i group by Sent or Received, outlook
groups the messages to the exact minute, which is of no real use.
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Subject: Re: Grouping Messages in Outlook
Answered By: missy-ga on 24 May 2002 09:07 PDT
 
Good morning!

The following pages provide instructions for sorting your Outlook mail
by date (the first includes screenshots):

Sorting Your Email Messages
[ http://www.uwec.edu/help/Outlook/MAIL-sorting.htm ]

Microsoft Outlook 98/2000 Sorting Messages
[ http://www.computertim.com/howto/ht/outlook/38.shtml ]

Should any other aspects of Outlook give you trouble, there is a
complete Outlook tutorial here:

[ http://207.73.232.30/intranet/lessons/office/other/outlook97/Outlook97.pdf
]

Hope this solves your problem!

missy-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by mtny-ga on 24 May 2002 11:48 PDT
Your answer talks about sorting, i asked about grouping not sorting.
In outlook under View->Current View->Customize Current View, there is
a Group By option.  I wish to group by a date field accurate to the
day, not accurate to the minute.

Clarification of Answer by missy-ga on 24 May 2002 18:20 PDT
Doh!  I'm sorry, mtny.  I'm a Eudora fan myself, and I tend to use
"group" and "sort" interchangeably when referring to e-mail. 
Apparently these are two entirely different things for Outlook users.

So I dragged out my Office CD, installed Outlook...and discovered
after some tinkering...that poormattie has beaten me to the
clarification.  She is correct, it cannot be done in Outlook 2000.  At
least, in no way I'm able to figure out, and I spent two hours digging
around in the program.  Microsoft's "Help"... wasn't of any.

If you like, you can ask for a refund here:

https://answers.google.com/answers/main?cmd=refundrequest

In any case, I shall be contacting Mattie to arrange to give *her* the
$5.

My apologies for missing the mark.

missy-ga
Comments  
Subject: Re: Grouping Messages in Outlook
From: jentaps-ga on 24 May 2002 12:40 PDT
 
I think what you want to do is to re-format your received column to
include the date.
1. Right click on the "Received" heading at the top of your.
2. Choose "Format Columns".
3. Choose "Received" from the Available Fields.
4. Select the format you desire from the Format Dropdown menu. (My
format is Fri 5/24/2002 12:40 PM).
5. You may re-label your Column Heading if you wish. (Received works
just fine for me).
6. Click OK.
I hope this works for you!
Subject: Re: Grouping Messages in Outlook
From: poormattie-ga on 24 May 2002 15:37 PDT
 
I'm a huge fan of missy's answers, but this is the first time I've
seen her completely miss the point of the question. Looks like she was
in a bit of a hurry.

What your asking for can't be done with Outlook 2000 (and I don't
imagine Outlook XP either). But there's a couple of things that might
work.

The first is a very time-consuming workaround, but might provide
something sort of like what you want using Outlook's Journal feature.
It allows you to display things underneath the date it took place.

It's easy to configure outgoing mail items to be automatically added
to your Journal-- you could just go to Tools | Preferences | Journal
Options, and click Email Message. Then all outgoing emails would be
recorded in the Journal.(You could also specify that double-clicking
opens the item referred to the entry in order to avoid first seeing
the less useful 'journal entry' item.) Unfortunately, though,
recording outgoing email is likely less useful to you than
recieved/incoming emails.

There's a couple of ways to get these added to the journal. The worst,
but most reliable, is to drag and drop each email you want there by
hand and save the journal item by itself (if you drag-and-drop all of
the items, you will get one journal entry with all the items attached
to it). The second method is to create them yourself with some sort of
Outlook automation that goes through your inbox (or other folder) and
converts the items to Journal items you'd like. The third method is
spotty and requires that you live with the fact that only future
emails might be added (and not existing ones), though this might be
combined with the first option to prevent some drag-and-drops in the
future.

Journal allows you to have specific contacts automatically journal
their emails. Unfortunately, this is generally regarded as error-prone
because (among other things) the recieved email address has to match
your Outlook Contact's primary email address exactly. You can specify
specific contacts to Journal via
Tools | Preferences | Journal Options, or you can journal all email
for all of your contacts with the following script:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q252947

If the Outlook Journal is too poor a workaround for you to live with,
there are companies that sell add-ons for Outlook that do what you
wish. The one I've seen recommended is NEO (Nelson Email Organizer)
from Caelo Software. They have a free trial download and after testing
it, it appears to provide somewhat the functionality you are looking
for. NEO allows you to group emails by 'Today', 'Yesterday', 'This
Week', 'Last Week', and then by each previous month. Additionally, it
supplements/wraps Outlook and has a number of other useful features as
well (like managing attachments). One note, though, if you have a lot
of items in your inbox, as I do, it will take a good bit of time to
get it to synchronize your mail. Caelo's website is located here:
http://www.caelo.com/

The NEO description page is here (though Caelo mentions it all over
their site):
http://www.caelo.com/pages/products.php3

There are other solutions, but they all require you to automate
Outlook somehow. For instance, you can create a custom field for every
email in your mail box that simply adds a date "string" to each
message. Then you can use field chooser to list that column and then
try use that field in your "Group By". I've written a small test
application that does this, and I'm going to provide it on my website
sometime tomorrow (underneath 'Development' or 'Projects'). I don't
recommend that you ever run applications written by people you don't
know, but I will make it available for those people who like to live
dangerously (or those that simply want to look at the source code to
figure out how to do it). You can visit my website at:
http://mattie.info

Hopefully this will help you out-- I'm sorry that Outlook doesn't have
an easy solution built-in (but I imagine that's why you had to ask the
question).

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