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Subject:
Looking for a Fremen Stillsuit
Category: Science > Biology Asked by: spurious-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
21 Mar 2003 04:09 PST
Expires: 03 Apr 2003 18:47 PST Question ID: 179095 |
Where can I get a Fremen stillsuit? I'm looking for a functional unit, so no movie props or silly answers like "I saw one in a market on Arakis". Failing that, is there a portable device that can reclaim water from expired air? |
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Re: Looking for a Fremen Stillsuit
From: xarqi-ga on 21 Mar 2003 04:14 PST |
Exhale through a silica gel column, then recover the water by heating and condensation. |
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Re: Looking for a Fremen Stillsuit
From: spurious-ga on 21 Mar 2003 04:36 PST |
This is a good starting point Google: "water loss" respiratory "water recovery" Found: A prototype military stillsuit http://www.asc2002.com/Abstracts_only/k/KA-01.pdf Biology and technical aspects http://www.cmnh.org/dinoarch/1997Jan/msg00243.html How birds do it http://www.usd.edu/biol/faculty/swanson/ecophys/readings/tieleman.doc |
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Re: Looking for a Fremen Stillsuit
From: spurious-ga on 21 Mar 2003 04:53 PST |
Hey, thanks xarqi-ga. This is similar to Mesosystems Technologies' device, but it does it without an energy source, recovering water through a membrane system Alternatively, biology has answered the problem without heating too - a crane's nares work through premoistening intake air with exhales moisture. It doesn't eliminate water loss, but it saves a lot and is more comfortable (lower pressure drop) than Mesosystems Technologies' mask. My question is more "Where can a _get_ one?" Mesosystems Technologies' product is at the mockup/ prototype stage and I don't have a beak. |
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Re: Looking for a Fremen Stillsuit
From: xarqi-ga on 21 Mar 2003 12:38 PST |
Need an energy source? How about the big one - the Sun! Just rig up a solar oven - it would only need to be small. Bake the moisture out of the silica gel that way. I figure that if you need such a device, it will probably be sunny where you are. Two other vaguely related things: 1) Build a dew catcher. Dig a hole in the evening; place a dish in the middle of it; cover the hole with a plastic sheet; pierce the centre of the sheet, and weigh the centre down with a small stone. 2) Urine recycler. Just the same except - supply your own moisture into the hole first, and don't pierce the plastic. You end up drinking distilled water! |
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