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Subject: Critique my site and suggest proper meta tags
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: sittinginseattle-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 23 Mar 2003 09:44 PST
Expires: 22 Apr 2003 10:44 PDT
Question ID: 179891
I have just put up my site http://www.youneverknow.com and would like
feedback on the overall appearance and  wording. Also I would like
suggestions for the description meta tags for each page and the
keyword meta tags. A bonus tip is offered to the researcher who can
suggest what I can do to make the site search engine friendly.
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Subject: Re: Critique my site and suggest proper meta tags
Answered By: serenata-ga on 23 Mar 2003 11:46 PST
Rated:1 out of 5 stars
 
Hello, Sitting In Seattle ~

I took a look at your site with an eye toward your request for
"feedback for overall appearance and wording" and for help with meta
tags and to make the site "search engine friendly".

1. Overall Appearance:

A glance at your site's "overall appearance" shows that it's pleasant
looking and fairly easy to read, in that it has a light background
which is not overpowering, and the text is within a viewer's "comfort
zone", that is, not too wide that it makes following the text hard to
read (and therefore, hard to comprehend).

But there are a few problems with the text, too. You are using the
Arial or a comparable sans-serif font, but you have justified the
text. Not all browsers, including IE, handle letterspacing within a
word and word spacing for justified text the same. That, together with
default system and browser settings, can produce some rather ugly gaps
between words and make it very difficult to read. Justified text is
fine for print copy with a printer and word processor that handles
letterspacing and word spacing so there aren't those gaps.

For Web copy, you should just use a left justified text and let the
browser handle text in the best manner it can. There are very few
instances where justified text would look good across all browsers,
monitor sizes and settings and system defaults, and this isn't one of
them.

Type faces: It's unclear why you changed the type face in the title -
"What you don't know YouNeverKnow.com" - from Arial to Comic Sans ...
but for those who don't have comic sans. The immediate impression is
that you made a mistake, followed by "did you mean to do that" ... and
for those who haven't installed the comic sans font, it looks like a
very big sans-serif (default) and like a mistake. You might want to
rethink that.

Remember, not everyone sees what you are seeing when you design a
site. Website designers usually have at least half a dozen different
browsers set at different resolutions and with different font defaults
to get a good idea of what others may see when they design a site.


2. What's this site about?

Your site loads fast, which is good, and there is something showing in
a fast enough time so as not to lose visitors who are forced to wait
forever for a page to load.

Above the fold - (that is, the first screenful), this site seems to be
about information ... indeed, your text says, "What you know.  What
you may not know.  What you should know."

And then we scroll down, it seems as if this site is about selling a
teeshirt with international symbols.

This could be seen as misleading and really irritate some visitors. If
this site is about selling your teeshirt, then get the teeshirt up
there in the first screen and leave absolutely NO DOUBT in your
visitor's mind about that fact. Don't waste your visitor's time if
he's coming there looking for information, and you are selling
teeshirts. A bazillion visitors won't do you any good if they're not
coming there looking for your teeshirts. If they're coming there for
information about things they never knew (as in factoids) and you're
peddlng teeshirts, they are not going to be happy campers, and the
chances are that even if they were hooked by the teeshirt, they aren't
going to buy it now.


3. Comfort and credibility - 

Consumer Web Watch published a research report on credibility on the
Web dated October 29, 2002, with a follow-up dated November 11, 2002.
The consumer-driven study, entitled "How Do People Evaluate a Web
Site's Credibility? Results from a Large Study", was part of Stanford
University Persuasive Technology Lab's investigation on what causes
people to believe — or not believe — what they find online.

In its abstract and discussion of the study, they stated, "As the Web
becomes a part of people's everyday lives ... there is a growing need
to help people figure out whether a Web site is credible or not: Can I
trust the information on this site? Can I trust in the services this
site describes?"

In the study's findings, data showed that the average consumer paid
far more attention to the superficial aspects of a site, such as
visual cues, than to its content. Nearly half of all consumers (or
6.1%) in the study assessed the credibility of sites based in part on
the appeal of the overall visual design of a site, including layout,
typography, font size and color schemes.

The five most important credibility assessments ...

The Stanford study revealed that the five most important credibility
assessments were:

  - Identity,
  - Advertising and Sponsorships,
  - Customer Service,
  - Corrections, and
  - Privacy.
 
The study information is at
 - http://www.consumerwebwatch.org/news/report3_credibilityresearch/stanfordPTL_abstract.htm

Your "About YNK" page, which one usually associates with information
about who we are doing business with and contact information, Instead,
yours tells about how the traveling tee came into being. That
information is not only interesting, but can be a useful selling tool,
but would be better relegated to information about the teeshirt.

Your visitor expects your "About YNK" to contain information about the
company behind the purchase, with addresses, contact information and
if you want to create credibility and make it easier to do business
with you, some information about the people behind YNK.

You do have a useful and informative Privacy page, but it is difficult
to find your guarantee. A link to your guarantee and explanation of
that (Customer Service) from every page on the site would be helpful
to your visitor.


4. HTML and coding -

I see that this is constructed using Front Page, which throws in a LOT
of extraneous code and rarely validates for cross-browser
compatibility.

In addition, there is no doctype declaration. Without a doctype
declaration, visitors to your pages see them according to the doctype
in the last site they visited. A lack of a doctype declaration,
combined with front page as the page editor, can produce some rather
alarming results - and certainly not what you intended for your site's
visitors.

Information on doctype declarations can be found on the Web Design
Group's information page on doctype declarations, including why you
should use it, can be found here:
 - http://www.htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/doctype.html

Alt tags - Your graphics do not include alt tags. For accessibility
purposes alone, it would seem you'd want to use alt tags, but there
are other uses for them as well, including HELPING with search engine
placement. The few instances when you wouldn't use one might be if you
have sliced an image and assembled it within a table, in which case
you would use a summary of the table and empty alt tags to help with
the accessibility issues.

For a full explanation of why you should, and how to, make your
Website accessible, you might want to look at the W3C standards
information page, "Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 1.0", which
can be found here:
 - http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/


5. Search Engine Friendly

After you have worked on the matters above and you are ready to submit
the site to search engines, you may want to look at what the experts
advise on search engine submission and making it search engine
friendly.

One of the most acknowledged and respected information sites on search
engines is Danny Sullivan's Search Engine Watch.
 - http://searchenginewatch.com/

There is an entire section devoted to design, keywords, meta tags and
content in the site's "Search Engine Submission Tips", which is
located here:

 - http://searchenginewatch.com/webmasters/index.html

I think this may help with your questions on search engine submission.


6. Google's recommendations

I imagine you may be wondering why I talked earlier about making your
site user friendly, the credibility issues, coding, alt tags, etc., in
relation to making your site search engine friendly.

I direct your attention to "Google Information for Webmasters"
 - ://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html

Please notice the information under "Design and Content Guidelines"
 "Create a useful, information-rich site and write pages that clearly
and accurately describe your content."

So far as keywords and metatags,
 "Think about the words users would type to find your pages, and make
sure that your site actually includes those words within it."

And lastly, Google's first recommendation under "Quality Guidelines -
Basic principles"
 "Make pages for users, not for search engines. Don't deceive your
users, or present different content to search engines than you display
to users."


** More information on user friendliness:

There is a lot of information on the Internet about user friendliness,
but none so well-known as Jakob Nielsen's site, useit.com.
 - http://www.useit.com/

There is a wealth of information there, whether or not you agree with
it all, the basics remain the same about the use of typefaces, widths,
and how to design a good, basic site. I suspect there will be some
information there that will make a lot of sense to you, that extra
"something" that will make the difference, once you read it.

Nielsen discusses and links to studies for the issues I have discussed
above, includingi accessibility, usability, friendliness, etc. Please
know that I am a web designer and do not necessarily agree with
everything Nielsen says. I think a few things are downright outdated.
But so far as the basics and the information above, that still hasn't
changed.


** Search words for your site

Once you have made those changes to make your site strong, then you
can determine your market (which would obviously include travelers),
and work on the search terms they would look for as they're preparing
a trip. Certainly this would be as useful for international markets as
it would be for the domestic market, and your search terms - as well
as your content - should include those terms. This will go a long way
toward helping make your site "search engine friendly" as well.


Search terms used -
  - user friendly guidelines
  - search engine friendly guidelines
  - accessibility
  - front page problems

I hope this helps, and good luck! I like the idea of your teeshirt.

Yours ever so,
Serenata

Request for Answer Clarification by sittinginseattle-ga on 23 Mar 2003 15:14 PST
Hi serenata-ga,
Thank you for the suggestions.  I knew from the start that using a
Microsoft product would not be friendly to non MS products.  I have
viewed the site in both OPERA and MOZILLA and FrontPage did a fairly
good job.  This is my first try at constructing a web site and I have
learned a great deal. I know about all the short comings on my site
like justification, the shirt ad on the index page, and the about ynk
page.  These sort of page design errors will not reapear in my new
generation YNK web site. In fact I am working on generation II as we
speak.  Again, thank you for your observations regarding the design.

What I am really looking for is meta tab advice that is specific to my
pages.  I visited Danny Sullivan's site before I published and
followed his recomendations and it has brought me this far.  I still
need my page specific information regarding tags.

Serenata-ga, thank you for trying to help me but I feel I still have
more questions than answers.  Take care.

Clarification of Answer by serenata-ga on 23 Mar 2003 17:48 PST
Hello again ...

Since you are familiar with the recommendations of Danny Sullivan's
Search Engine Watch, you are no doubt aware of his recommendations to
design the site for your visitor, using keyword rich content - and
then you add the key word meta tags for some search engines, as metags
and key words alone won't do you much good - they're not that relevant
in search engines any longer. But you're aware of that, I'm sure

I must have misunderstood your question, I thought you wanted feedback
on the overall appearance and wording. Since I wouldn't determine the
purpose of your site from the landingi page (index.html), it would
make it difficult to give you any suggestions for the description meta
tags and keyword metatags until I had a better understanding of that.
Sorry about that.

I did try to suggest what would make your site more search engine
friendly, and the information given is valid and good.

You said in your Request for Clarification, "I knew from the start
that using a Microsoft product would not be friendly to non MS
products.  I have viewed the site in both OPERA and MOZILLA and
FrontPage did a fairly good job.  This is my first try at constructing
a web site and I have learned a great deal. I know about all the short
comings on my site like justification, the shirt ad on the index page,
and the about ynk page.  These sort of page design errors will not
reapear in my new generation YNK web site. In fact I am working on
generation II as we speak."

It sort of begs the question of why you asked for the information
prior to the second generation pages. A look at what you actually
intend to present to the world -would make it easier for anyone to
assist you in key word generation. Surely any of the well know Search
Engine specialists such as Shari Thurow, Detlev Johnson, and Danny
Sullivan would tell you the same thing.

I'm sorry you find my suggestions a problem, when you've made the
changes and have your second generation site ready, you might want to
ask your questions again.

Warmest regards and blessings,
Serenata
sittinginseattle-ga rated this answer:1 out of 5 stars

Comments  
Subject: Re: Critique my site and suggest proper meta tags
From: mrpun46-ga on 23 Mar 2003 12:02 PST
 
Five Star helpful. Bookmarked this one for use with my own websites!
Subject: Re: Critique my site and suggest proper meta tags
From: aceresearcher-ga on 23 Mar 2003 16:44 PST
 
sittinginseattle,

I'm puzzled. If you've already visited Danny Sullivan's site before
you published, and you followed his recomendations, why doesn't your
page have meta "keywords" tags?

http://searchenginewatch.com/webmasters/meta.html

I'm sure you haven't shopped around, because if you had, you would
find that Serenata provided you with WAY more than $10.00 of excellent
advice on improving your website. It's a pity that you didn't post a
Request for Clarification instead of just assigning a low 1-star
rating. I am sure that Serenata would have worked with you to make
sure that your questions were answered.

Regards,

aceresearcher
Subject: Re: Critique my site and suggest proper meta tags
From: celebrationlady-ga on 23 Mar 2003 18:27 PST
 
My comments? 
Well, I did take the time to visit your website, and even took the
trouble to check out a few of the pages.  I was looking all over your
site for the information you promised.

May I quote?  
"the YNK site provides straight forward access to invaluable
information."
Where, might I ask is this inforamtion?  You mention Einstein, Darwin,
etc., but never apply or expand on 'information'.

I took a look at your meta tags.  What you have used to attract a
search engine is not validated by your web content.  This will place
you far down in the search engine rolls.

In actuality, you are selling Tee shirts.  Why not be honest and say
that up front?  In fact, you place tee shirt as the twelfth word in
your 'keywords' section.  If you were a 'brick and mortar' business
... you wouldn't last too long.  Your credibilty is lost as soon as
one scrolls down to see what's below.

In my opinion, this site, as it is constructed will quite possibly
draw some folks looking for answers to things 'they don't know'.  How
do you plan to fulfill that need for them?  This is just what your web
site promises them ... "the YNK site provides straight forward access
to invaluable information."  If your goal is to sell tee shirts, as
all your other pages certainly support, then I feel that you should
re-focus, so as to not appear mis-leading.  Trust is EVERYTHING on the
Internet.  Put yourself in your viewers' shoes and develop a site that
caters to what they are looking for ... and what you want them to
purchase from you. You offer a nice looking traveler's tee with the
graphic "You Never Know.com"  Tell me, in your web site, why I should
purchase this from you.  What does "You Never Know.com" represent and
why should I wear your slogan?

As always, 
The Celebration Lady
Subject: Re: Critique my site and suggest proper meta tags
From: denco-ga on 24 Mar 2003 10:54 PST
 
Some general advice...

Get travelingtee.com and base that product at the website, then
do the keywords, etc. for that product there.

The main trouble, and main reason that you are having a hard time
coming up with keywords, etc. with youneverknow.com is the lack
of focus on the site.  If it is to be about obscure facts, etc.
then it should be exactly (and only) that.  If it is about "straight
forward access to invaluable information" then it should be that.

With that in mind, start accumulating (lots more of) that same
information, catalog it, and put a search utility on the site so
people can find the information easily.

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