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Subject:
Curious about squares appearing in online text
Category: Computers > Internet Asked by: ozdk-ga List Price: $5.00 |
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25 May 2002 05:57 PDT
Expires: 24 Jun 2002 05:57 PDT Question ID: 18000 |
Why do I sometimes see squares such as this when reading bulletin boards or newsgroups or the occasional online newspaper? It appears that they should be single or double quotes, but they just appear as little squares. I am running Win98 and IE6, and would like to fix this problem if possible. If that's not possible, then an explanation for this phenomenon would be good enough. |
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Re: Curious about squares appearing in online text
Answered By: easterangel-ga on 25 May 2002 06:58 PDT Rated: ![]() |
Hi! Thanks for the very interesting question. It seems that we are dealing with character support for your browser in this question. The help file for Microsoft Word 2000, which, I used as initial launch pad for this research, and a supporting document in the Internet, talks about two issues: 1. Texts in a foreign language may not display correctly so that you must install IEs Multilanguage Support Pack. 2. Fonts that are installed in your computer may not be able to display a certain texts for that language. In the article A tutorial on character code issues in the web meanwhile have this to say about your problem. In addition to the fact that the appearance of a character may vary, it is quite possible that some program fails to display a character at all. Perhaps the program cannot interpret a particular way in which the character is presented. The reason might simply be that some program-specific way had been used to denote the character and a different program is in use now. (This happens quite often even if "the same" program is used; for example, Internet Explorer version 4.0 is able to recognize α as denoting the Greek letter alpha (á) but IE 3.0 is not and displays the notation literally.) And naturally it often occurs that a program does not recognize the basic character encoding of the data, either because it was not properly informed about the encoding according to which the data should be interpreted or because it has not been programmed to handle the particular encoding in use. But even if a program recognizes some data as denoting a character, it may well be unable to display it since it lacks a glyph for it. Often it will help if the user manually checks the font settings, perhaps manually trying to find a rich enough font. (Advanced programs could be expected to do this automatically and even to pick up glyphs from different fonts, but such expectations are mostly unrealistic at present.) But it's quite possible that no such font can be found. As an important detail, the possibility of seeing e.g. Greek characters on some Windows systems depends on whether "internationalization support" has been installed. A well-design program will in some appropriate way indicate its inability to display a character. For example, a small rectangular box, the size of a character, could be used to indicate that there is a character which was recognized but cannot be displayed. Some programs use a question mark, but this is risky - how is the reader expected to distinguish such usage from the real "?" character? To read the whole tutorial please follow this link: http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/chars.html#control The following are articles you may try to fix the problem: http://webmail.lshtm.ac.uk/com/novell/webaccess/help/en/0201.htm http://www.virginia.edu/~asmedia/TTSP/foreign_language_encoding.html#configuring_your_browser Search terms used: Unsupported character display issues I hope this would help you in your search. Thanks for being a part of Google Answers. Regards, Easterangel-ga | |
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ozdk-ga
rated this answer:![]() I guess I should have specified that I DON'T visit non-English sites, therefore this rare problem only occurs on English websites (in my experiences). I must say I would have been happy to get a response in a week, but an hour or two is phenomenal. Better than most of my software vendors! |
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Re: Curious about squares appearing in online text
From: mvguy-ga on 25 May 2002 07:07 PDT |
Just an interesting observation: The "square" in the question doesn't show up on my screen as a square, but as a lower-case "a" with a grave accent. |
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Re: Curious about squares appearing in online text
From: drdavid-ga on 25 May 2002 07:47 PDT |
And for me, the square appears as expected, but the "alpha" displays as an 'a' with an acute accent... Unfortunately, there is not presently a single international standard for interpreting character codes, something which is long overdue! As a result, there is presently no way to know for sure what character should be displayed for each code in a source text. Most source material does not come with an attached "code book," and, often, the best that you (or your display or printer software) can do is to pick a standard based on the likely software and country of origin, and even that doesn't work very well, since there are often critical variations from font to font installed in the same software. You can try adjusting your browser options (View->encoding->... in Internet Explorer) to match the likely encoding for the page you are viewing. Maybe someday soon, we'll straighten out the mess, and we'll get another step closer to true WYSIWYG display that works around the globe. |
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Re: Curious about squares appearing in online text
From: fuzzy_logic-ga on 27 May 2002 02:00 PDT |
Hiya, i think the problem you are describing is because the text for the newsgroups or online newspaper has been written using MS Word, this symbol is the Paragraph character that appears at the beggining & end of every new paragraph, this character is supported by Truetype Fonts however it is not supported by MIME Text which is what the newsgroups posts are. as for the person that reports that when he views the web page it appears as "a lower-case "a" with a grave accent" this is because he has set the default codepage subset as Latin Extended-A, where as most other PC's Will not, as it is set to Basic Latin as default, both the paragraph Character and the a with grave accent share the same codepage dependant on which subset your computer is set to as default. I hope this answers your question. as i heve been asked this very same question by somebody else a few months ago |
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