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Subject: Manufacturers to make 1,000's of my grommeted paper product, 1/8" dia. hole
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: jelly888-ga
List Price: $20.00
Posted: 25 Mar 2003 11:27 PST
Expires: 24 Apr 2003 12:27 PDT
Question ID: 180806
Produce a paper product, the wheels of paper must be grommeted
together. The top wheel is merely a window the other wheel spins and
has information on it which is viewed through the window of the top
wheel. (The wheels must lay ontop of each other.)  3 to 5
Manufacturers and the grommets used must be small 1/8" diameter hole.
Pictures of the grommets would be nice and any hand grommet fastner
tools that are for sale.  Thanks, Good Luck  Also manufacturer must
have ability to make 1,000's of units upon request.
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Subject: Re: Manufacturers to make 1,000's of my grommeted paper product, 1/8" dia. hole
Answered By: denco-ga on 12 Apr 2003 17:41 PDT
 
Howdy jelly888!

These are known as dial charts or guide wheels. 
 
A major manufacturer of these is Perrygraf.
http://www.perrygraf.com/ 
 
"At Perrygraf, we started with a vision—to help every business 
achieve its sales and marketing goals through creative, accurate, 
beautifully designed dimensional communications products including 
Slide-Charts, Wheel-Charts and rubber band activated Pop-Ups."
 
"As the original slide-chart communications company, Perrygraf
has the experience and the expertise to translate your vision
into business communications tools that have lasting impact on
your market."
 
Another producer of dial charts is Teraco, Inc.
http://www.teraco.com/ 
 
"Teraco offers a wide variety of promotional, communication, 
and identification products designed to motivate customers 
and prospects."
 
"Products include plastic cards, gift cards, rulers, luggage 
tags, ID cards, hotel key cards, custom calculators, and 
employee name badges. Services include personalization, 
fulfillment, and mailing."
 
"Each group has unique appeal and can be tailored to nearly 
any budget, be it pennies or dollars per unit---or hundreds 
of items, or hundreds of thousands."

Teraco, Inc. has more details on their dial charts at:
http://www.teraco.com/Products/Calculators.html

You might have to go through one of the various promotional 
outfits, such as the Promotional Products Shopping Mall, to
get dial charts from other manufacturers, such as Norco: 
http://www.promomart.com/ 
 
Click the "Quick Search" drop down, select "Dial/Slide Chrts"
and then click the "Go" button to get their list, including:
 
"Woodrow - Quality professional measuring devices ..."
"Norco - For all your guide wheel needs ..."
"Plastic Printing ..."
"Extra Special Promotions ..."
"Dimensions - Need a wheel calculator?"
"Pilgrim Plastic - See our great line of Dials & Slide Charts"


Search strategy:

promotional products
://www.google.com/search?q=promotional+products

I knew about dial charts from my knowledge of promotional
products, and the Promotional Products Shopping Mall site had
the links to Perrygraf and Teraco, Inc.

If you need any clarification with this answer, please do not
hesitate to ask!

Looking Forward, denco-ga
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Subject: Re: Manufacturers to make 1,000's of my grommeted paper product, 1/8" dia. hole
From: denco-ga on 25 Mar 2003 15:50 PST
 
These are known as dial charts or guide wheels.

Here are some of the major companies manufacturing these:

http://www.perrygraf.com/

At Perrygraf, we started with a vision—to help every business
achieve its sales and marketing goals through creative, accurate,
beautifully designed dimensional communications products including
Slide-Charts, Wheel-Charts and rubber band activated Pop-Ups.

As the original slide-chart communications company, Perrygraf has
the experience and the expertise to translate your vision into
business communications tools that have lasting impact on your
market


http://www.teraco.com/

Teraco offers a wide variety of promotional, communication,
and identification products designed to motivate customers
and prospects.

Products include plastic cards, gift cards, rulers, luggage
tags, ID cards, hotel key cards, custom calculators, and
employee name badges. Services include personalization,
fulfillment, and mailing.

Each group has unique appeal and can be tailored to nearly
any budget, be it pennies or dollars per unit---or hundreds
of items, or hundreds of thousands.


You might have to go through one of the various promotional
outfits for others, such as Norco:

http://www.promomart.com/

Use the "Quick Search" drop down and select: Dial/Slide Chrts:

Woodrow - Quality professional measuring devices ...
Norco - For all your guide wheel needs ...
Plastic Printing ...
Extra Special Promotions ...
Dimensions - Need a wheel calculator?
Pilgrim Plastic - See our great line of Dials & Slide Charts
Subject: Re: Manufacturers to make 1,000's of my grommeted paper product, 1/8" dia. hole
From: jelly888-ga on 26 Mar 2003 09:08 PST
 
Thank You Denco do you have any suggestions for the other question I posted?
Subject: Re: Manufacturers to make 1,000's of my grommeted paper product, 1/8" dia. hole
From: aceresearcher-ga on 26 Mar 2003 09:54 PST
 
denco,

I have noticed that you seem to be pretty adept at finding things for
other Customers, and at posting helpful Comments. You might consider
studying the format of "full" Answers and practicing these in your
future Comments, as a way of getting yourself noticed as a prospective
Researcher.

Best wishes,

ace
Subject: Re: Manufacturers to make 1,000's of my grommeted paper product, 1/8" dia. hole
From: denco-ga on 26 Mar 2003 12:58 PST
 
Howdy jelly888-ga!

I just reviewed you other question at:

http://answers.google.com/answers/main?cmd=threadview&id=178746

and saw that I got lucky (I had not read the other question in
detail before Commenting on this question) in that the two main
companies I listed are in California and Texas!

Anyway, as to your other questions:

A place that has grommet and snap setting machines:

http://www.decorativenails.com/snaps/machines.htm

which appears to be a subset of products from:

http://www.snapfastener.com/

Snap Fastener is also King Richard:

http://www.kingrichard.cc/grommets.htm

The following has "Midget Grommet Setters":

http://www.campbell-bosworth.com/handtool/tools/grm-snap.html

The following is a falconry (!) site but it has (with pictures):

- Screw-Type Stainless Steel Grommet Setters
- Grommets
- Grommet Pliers

http://www.northwoodsfalconry.com/index.cgi?cat=%2FGrommet%20Setters%20%26%20Grommets&rm=listitems

(if the above does not work for you use
http://www.northwoodsfalconry.com/
and click on Grommet Setters and Grommets on the left hand side of the
page)

The following has a good variety of setters, etc. and (finally, at
least for me...) explains some of the sizing nomenclature; it appears
that a #00 is what might do best for you at a "finished hole diameter
of 5/32" or 4.5mm and a finished grommet diameter of 7/16" or 11mm.":

http://www.farthingales.on.ca/grommets.php

The following claims to have "the ultimate snap & grommet pressing
tool":

http://www.pressnsnap.com/pns.htm

More supplies and picture at:

http://nt.bnt.com/talas/menu.html?category=136

A tips page is at:

http://www.farthingales.on.ca/grommet_tips.htm


For whatever it is worth, it appears that the #00 is the
smallest size you can get on a regular basis.  I realize
your specs are calling for a 1/8" grommet, but I think
you might make your life easier by going with 5/32".


Search criteria:

"1/8" grommet
"grommet setters"
"grommet setting"
"#00" grommets
Subject: Re: Manufacturers to make 1,000's of my grommeted paper product, 1/8" dia. hole
From: denco-ga on 26 Mar 2003 13:29 PST
 
Howdy aceresearcher-ga!  Much thanks for kind Comment!

Well, if there was a sense that there was a process in
place wherein one could become "official" by virtue of
being "noticed" in posting Comments, I might try going
the "full" format route.

Lots of the time I go for speed versus form so as to try
to avoid the "lock" process.  For instance, it could be
argued that adding the search criteria doesn't really add
to the Comment for the Customer, as (for me anyway) a fair
amount of the research process is wading through the search
results, or is a (somewhat) unintuitive (or disassociative)
process, or based on personal knowledge.

At times, other parts of some of the "full" Answers seem to
(trying to say this nicely) unnecessary.

Looking Forward, denco-ga
Subject: Re: Manufacturers to make 1,000's of my grommeted paper product, 1/8" dia. hole
From: aceresearcher-ga on 26 Mar 2003 14:27 PST
 
denco,

While perhaps sometimes seeming unnecessary, these "niceties" are
required of Researchers by the Rules and Procedures. One of the
reasons is to avoid possible assertions of copyright infringement by
making sure that sources are accurately credited.

For instance:

"Farthingale's Fabrics of Canada provides an excellent page of Tips on
How to Set Grommets at:
http://www.farthingales.on.ca/grommet_tips.htm "


The main reason for including Search Strategy is to assist the
Customer to be better able to perform their own Internet Searching
(and again, it's required as one of the items Researchers are required
to include in their Answers).


As for developing a sense that there is a process in place wherein one
could become "official" by virtue of being "noticed" in posting
Comments, I have only two words for you:

Pinkfreud  and  Aceresearcher

Best wishes,

ace
Subject: Re: Manufacturers to make 1,000's of my grommeted paper product, 1/8" dia. hole
From: denco-ga on 26 Mar 2003 21:53 PST
 
Thanks for all the feedback ace!

Much appreciated!  denco

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