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New York Times Crossword
Category: Sports and Recreation > Games Asked by: lexi-ga List Price: $4.00 |
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27 May 2002 16:02 PDT
Expires: 03 Jun 2002 16:02 PDT Question ID: 18359 |
How do they make the crossword puzzle that appears in the New York Times? Is there a computer program or just a guy who makes them up? If it's just a guy, does he do it every day by himself or is there a team of people who take turns writing them? How long does it take to construct one puzzle? |
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Re: New York Times Crossword
Answered By: tehuti-ga on 27 May 2002 16:47 PDT Rated: |
Hello lexi-ga You can access a database of New York Times daily and Sunday crosswords at http://nytxword.home.mindspring.com/, (a subscription is required to access any puzzles which appeared since late October, 1996). The puzzles are sorted by date or by author. As an example, the Sunday puzzles in the set from October 27, 1996 to today (actually until April 28, 2002) have been written by approximately 65 authors. In most cases, one author is responsible, but some puzzles have been created by two or three authors. The site gives statistics on the most prolific authors of Sunday crosswords at http://nytxword.home.mindspring.com/author.htm The current champion is Jack Luzzato with 119 puzzles to his credit. The site does not give any information about how the authors create their puzzles. However, some information on this topic can be found in the links listed by Ray Hamel at http://www.primate.wisc.edu/people/hamel/cp.html, which claims to have links to all known crossword-related web sites. There you will find links to various crossword software packages (http://www.primate.wisc.edu/people/hamel/cp.html#Soft). These packages will generate a crossword from their own word lists or lists put in by the author. It is possible to specify the type of crossword, the minimum and maximum number of letters per word, the percentage of black squares in the diagram, the overal size and the symmetry of the diagram. There is also a list of anagram-generating software. It appears that some of the crossword prgrams have clues databases as well, but I would guess that most authors generate their own clues, especially for cryptic crosswords (otherwise the readers would eventually get to know most of the clues used in their newspaper crosswords!). An article about New York Times daily crossword compiler Bob Klahn is available at http://www.magpage.com/~bobklahn/DelToday/index.html Klahn has constructed his own crossword software, however he maintains that constructing a crossword is always a matter of trail and error. Some puzzles are finished in one hour, but one took as long as 100 hours. In some cases, Klahn will start to work on a puzzle and then put it away and not return to it until several months later. I found these resouces by searching on Google with the terms: "New York Times crossword" author (search results at ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&q=%22New+York+Times+crossword%22+author ) Hope this answers your question |
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It's too bad there isn't more information about the puzzle-writing process. The software is interesting, though. |
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Re: New York Times Crossword
From: libraryman-ga on 27 May 2002 17:06 PDT |
I found a list of crossword puzzle authors at this site. http://nytxword.home.mindspring.com/onl-shtz2a.htm As a former school librarian I sometimes gave my classes computer generated crossword puzzles. I would input the words and the clues, usually dictionary definitions, and the computer software would generate the puzzle boxes, the list of words with numbers, and a list of numbered clues. It has been a couple of years since I've used it, so I don't remember the name of the software. But it was kidstuff. I'm sure the Times uses more sophisticated software. Great way to build vocabulary. |
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Re: New York Times Crossword
From: websearcher-ga on 27 May 2002 17:09 PDT |
Hi lexi-ga: Just as an additional note, I currently use "Crossword Compiler" to create crossword puzzles. The product is wonderful and contain word lists, anagram finfers and many other tools. It can be found at http://www.x-word.com/ websearcher-ga |
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Re: New York Times Crossword
From: libraryman-ga on 27 May 2002 17:14 PDT |
Here's an example of crossword puzzle software. I suspect there are dozens of brands by now: http://www.bryson.demon.co.uk/sympathy.html |
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Re: New York Times Crossword
From: wayga-ga on 27 May 2002 18:50 PDT |
Just a little trivia, the term for one who solves or creates crosswords is "cruciverbalist." |
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Re: New York Times Crossword
From: tlspiegel-ga on 27 May 2002 20:01 PDT |
quoted: "Subject: Re: New York Times Crossword From: wayga-ga on 27 May 2002 18:50 PDT Just a little trivia, the term for one who solves or creates crosswords is "cruciverbalist."" That sounds dangerous to me! Thanks for the trivia tidbit. ;) tlspiegel-ga (Who enjoys doing crossword and jigsaw puzzles!) |
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Re: New York Times Crossword
From: seans88-ga on 31 May 2002 12:58 PDT |
Matt Gaffney, who constructs Slate's crossword puzzle, published a five-day diary detailing his routine a few months back. The first entry is at http://slate.msn.com/?id=2060931&entry=2060944; each of the other entries is also accessible from this page. Best regards, Sean Smith |
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Re: New York Times Crossword
From: seans88-ga on 31 May 2002 13:01 PDT |
Apologies - the correct link for my comment above is http://slate.msn.com/?id=2060931&entry=2060944 (omit the semicolon at the end). Sean |
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Re: New York Times Crossword
From: googlie-ga on 13 Jun 2002 20:07 PDT |
The exact answer to the question "How do I start learning the ins and outs of crossword construction?" is here: http://www.cruciverb.com/index.cfm?op=ShowDoc&doc_id=49 |
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Re: New York Times Crossword
From: mirepoix-ga on 17 Jun 2002 12:18 PDT |
Here are my answers to your questions. >How do they make the crossword puzzle that appears in the New York >Times? Is there a computer program or just a guy who makes them up? >If it's just a guy, does he do it every day by himself or is there a >team of people who take turns writing them? Various people submit their crosswords to the New York Times. Those puzzles are then edited by the New York Times crossword puzzle editor, Will Shortz. The people who do the constructing use any number of techniques, from one extreme of doing it all by hand to the other extreme of letting a computer do all the work. When the puzzle is released, it identifies the author in the byline. |
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Re: New York Times Crossword
From: dickoon-ga on 24 Jun 2002 19:44 PDT |
Further to mirepoix-ga's answer, you might be interested in reading the following interview with Will Shortz in which, about 20% of the way through, he talks about his experiences as crossword editor for the New York Times. It identifies how proactive an editor he is, which is the only aspect of the process that has not yet been discussed. http://www.msoworld.com/chat/shortzpost.html (Disclaimer: at the time of the interview, I was paid to work on that web site.) |
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