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Subject:
DNA cloning
Category: Science > Biology Asked by: genemaster-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
02 Apr 2003 03:00 PST
Expires: 02 May 2003 04:00 PDT Question ID: 184810 |
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Subject:
Re: DNA cloning
From: xarqi-ga on 02 Apr 2003 03:11 PST |
You can use blunt end ligation, but usually, if you've used a restriction enzyme to cut the fragment out, it'll go straight into the vector. To do this with PCR you'd have to build the restriction site into the primers. |
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Re: DNA cloning
From: xarqi-ga on 02 Apr 2003 17:12 PST |
There's also the issue of orientation. With different restriction sites at each end, you can define the orientation of the insert. With blunt end ligation, or the same type of site, you have to go fishing among the transfectants for the one you want using RFLPs or sequencing. |
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Re: DNA cloning
From: xarqi-ga on 03 Apr 2003 02:51 PST |
Hmmmm. I wonder if it is a reagent carry over issue - something from the PCR inhibiting the ligase. Ahhh - how do you clean-up your PCR? If you just do an ethanol or isopropanol prep, you'll get left over primers too. If these contain the restriction site, they'll compete for the ends of the vector. You wouldn't have this issue going straight from a restriction digest to a ligation. You could try using resin spin columns to recover the PCR product, or just cut it out of an agarose gel and then clean it up. Of course, if you are doing something similar already, I'll have to have another think. |
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Re: DNA cloning
From: synarchy-ga on 14 Apr 2003 03:04 PDT |
Some restriction enzymes require more DNA around the cut site than just the consensus sequence - if the restriction site is on the far end of the primers, perhaps the enzyme is not efficiently cutting the fragments. |
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Re: DNA cloning
From: landbrow-ga on 19 Apr 2003 13:58 PDT |
You might want to examine the quality of your nucleotides. Just for fun, you might want to create PCR products using 4 different companies PCR-grade nucleotides to see if there are differences in cloning success rates. There are SIGNIFICANT differences in quality from company to company that can affect both the PCR reaction and downstream applications. I also agree w/ Xarqi-ga in that the method of "PCR Cleanup" will also greatly affect cloning. Gel purified PCR product is the standard...but once again, the quality of gel purified product will vary greatly depending upon which companies kit you use. I obviously have my favorites but I do not want to make this a commercial. To answer your question, I do not agree that PCR amplified DNA will necessarily be more difficult to clone than RE cut DNA. Good luck w/ your cloning |
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Re: DNA cloning
From: drblue-ga on 30 Jan 2004 03:22 PST |
For blunt ended cloning see Invitrogen and their TOPO cloning vectors. Ligase independent and worked 6/7 times first time with my blunt ended clones. Seventh one worked on second attempt. It's expensive but, saves alot of time, effort and worry. |
Subject:
Re: DNA cloning
From: genemaster-ga on 30 Jan 2004 08:44 PST |
Thanks to all those who posted their comments and tips - this is just a follow up to my question to let you know what I found the problem to be. Basically I was PCRing from a cDNA preperation and trying to insert the allele into a vector. Beacause I was getting a primer/dimer problem (due to improperly designed primers) I was gel purifying the PCR product, adding it to a double digest reaction, and re-gel purifying the digested PCR product to get it away from the cut off ends. For those of you who haven't done that much cloning before you may not know that agerose REALLY REALLY screws up ligation reactions, so putting my insert through 2 rounds of gel purification (and not taking enough effort to minimise the amount of agerose excised with the DNA) prevented me from sticking it to the vector. Ah well, you live and learn... |
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