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For the Attention of Journalist, please!
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Performing Arts Asked by: probonopublico-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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05 Apr 2003 21:55 PST
Expires: 09 Apr 2003 00:01 PDT Question ID: 186667 |
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Re: For the Attention of Journalist, please!
From: kemlo-ga on 06 Apr 2003 01:15 PST |
The spelling in some of these qestions is something awfull, personaly I blame the grandparents. And why not? |
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Re: For the Attention of Journalist, please!
From: probonopublico-ga on 06 Apr 2003 05:28 PDT |
Hi, Simon (Kemlo) Grandparents certainly have a lot to answer for. I've been rooting out mine recently and I was traumatised by the discovery that my Dad's Mother & Father had married only 6 months before. So, obviously, some hanky panky used to go on in ye olden days. (You can't image your grandparents even knowing about such things.) As for my Mother, I have discovered that the woman she called Mum (whom she knew as the former Annie Turner) wasn't. It was a certain Milly Jubb from Thorne. With both my parents now departed, I shall never know whether or not they knew. If not, the shock might have killed them. And now, dear Simon, I have recently discovered that you are actually George Elliot (or is it Elliott?), a writer of some repute. I hope that I have no other shocking discoveries to make as I dig deeper into your pedigree. KR Bryan |
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Re: For the Attention of Journalist, please!
From: stressedmum-ga on 06 Apr 2003 06:14 PDT |
Hi honey, just thought I'd impart a few pearls of perspective given that I've had the *good* fortune to associate with male journos for several years. First of all, you need high cholesterol. It doesn't matter how much weight you're carrying but, skinny or t'otherwise, no self respecting journo will travel without a cholesterol level of at least 10, and a DVT if you can possibly manage one. You also need body odour and at least two ex-wives. Undiagnosed type 2 diabetes is a definite asset as is a greying, once white, unironed shirt with a Homer Simpson- or old high school tie. Levi jeans, must be 501s, button fly, boot cut with some cuban heel RM Williams dark brown boots worn with a jacket, preferably old leather aviator type but could be tweed, cashmere, or parasilk. The fingers (complete with bitten fingernails gnawed back to the quick) must be run through the long, loose hair at every opportunity and an overall air of superiority must pervade (yes, above the BO) whilst avoiding paying your share of the bill. Above all, you must have a perpetually raised eyebrow and a sardonic snigger to accompany such statements as, "I don't *need* a tape recorder -- they're for amateurs." or "Yes, I do have sugar in my coffee." |
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Re: For the Attention of Journalist, please!
From: nancylynn-ga on 06 Apr 2003 07:30 PDT |
I know Journalist will provide you with some great advice. Here's my 2 cents: I think you've been watching THE FRONT PAGE/HIS GIRL FRIDAY! The era of gin and cigs seems to have ended. During the '90s, I worked at a newspaper with a staff of about 20 -- 25 reporters and editors. A total of three were smokers. No one there appeared to be a booze hound.(Most of them, when they weren't working, were at home with their spouses and kids.) stressedmum is right about high cholesterol. The thing is, when you have to run from, say, covering a press conference to a 6-alarm fire, write up those stories, and then end your day with a town council meeting that runs until 10:00 p.m., you don't exactly have the option of eating healthy. I personally lived on Coca-Cola (Diet Coke when I made the occasional Bridget Jones-like commitment to healthy living), vending machine crackers, and M&M's. Yeah, many reporters are jaded and cynical. That's because journalists seek truth, but often hit barriers of resistance with sources, such as misleading torrents of verbiage. Many sources will distort facts in their zeal to push their own agenda; that's why reporters must be probing & challenging when subjects offer specious, self-serving assertions. Happily, most reporters are really very civil, as *most* sources/subjects are civil, courteous, and frank. Most reporters are very like David Bloom, who we lost today: maybe not as brave as he was, but dedicated to journalism as public service, curious, enthusiastic, objective, and, when warranted, deeply empathetic. Break a leg (as they say in show biz circles)! Regards, nancylynn-ga |
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Re: For the Attention of Journalist, please!
From: probonopublico-ga on 06 Apr 2003 08:52 PDT |
Hi, Honey #1 (Stressed Mum) & Honey #2 (Nancy) Many thanks for your comments. As it's radio drama, I think the odours and the costume might be lost on the audience (if any). I have known some journalists ... and one good friend of mine, called Tom, used to be the Show Biz correspondent for one of the big UK dailies. He was a non-stop smoker and a hardened drinker. One night after spending a Saturday evening with me, he started to leave uncharacteristically early with the marvellous line 'I've got to interview Gene Kelly tomorrow'. 'Wow', said I, 'You don't want any help, do you?' So, Tom invited me along (Gene Kelly was compering the Royal Command Performance that year) and I duly met the man himself. I was amazed though by how tiny he was and with such dainty feet. To my disappointment, he never asked me to dance even though he had previously danced with Fred Astaire, Donald O'Connor, and the Nicholas Brothers. KR Bryan |
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Re: For the Attention of Journalist, please!
From: stressedmum-ga on 06 Apr 2003 09:09 PDT |
Well, this isn't exactly Gene Kelly, but it's a hoot. I once decided to become an actress and, with my eight month daughter on my hip, got to dress up in denim overalls and be harried inmates for a day in, wait for it, Prisoner! Sheila Florence, who played Lizzie Birdsworth (you *do* know Lizzie, don't you?), was admiring my beautiful dimple-cheeked baby daughter but suddenly looked at me very sternly and, inhaling deeply on a cigarette and with a glass of Guinness in her hand, pointed at me and said in an exaggeratedly cultured accent, "Don't put your kids in showbusiness, Mum," and swallowing a big swig of Guinness, finished with, "it'sh a roolly bad influence on 'em!" I took her advice ... but look out for the bomb episode ;) |
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Re: For the Attention of Journalist, please!
From: nancylynn-ga on 06 Apr 2003 09:29 PDT |
Hi probonopublico-ga: What a funny coincidence that you mentioned Gene Kelly! I once interviewed residents of a small Pennsylvania town (where Kelly had relatives) who still had vivid memories of Gene Kelly dancing on roller skates across the stage of the town theater. (He gave the performance as a favor to the town's dancing teacher, who studied with Kelly at his Johnstown studio.) Several years later, many of those same people were sitting in that same theater, when they saw that same young man who had danced on roller skates for them a few years earlier, flicker across the screen while serenading Judy Garland in FOR ME AND MY GAL. Oh, you're playing a Fleet Street type of reporter?! Oh, well then, yeah, you should *actually* be drunk during the performance. Try to give the audience a sense that you reek of gin, tobacco, and regret. (Hey,I'm kind of sorry I missed out on that whole scene myself. Ya know: too many martinis, chasing cop cars, hiding in celebs' shrubbery with a camera, and falling for every guy --or doll, depending on one's preference -- who looked like trouble.) Ta, nancylynn-ga |
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Re: For the Attention of Journalist, please!
From: probonopublico-ga on 06 Apr 2003 09:50 PDT |
Hi, Again, my Two Honeys! Many thanks for sharing your experiences with me. Sorry, Honey #1, but I don't watch much television. Not being a very good actor, I'm also having problems with simulating a high cholestrol count, particularly as there are two different scales: (1) the Good Old US of A and (2) the Real World ... and I just don't know where youse two little honeys are located ... I'm guessing Tokyo but, of course, I may be wrong (as usual). Following your advice, I am thinking that maybe I will be unable to do justice to the part and I am now thinking of going sick. Perhaps if I could act as though I had a high cholesterol count, that might do the trick? KR Bryan |
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Re: For the Attention of Journalist, please!
From: nancylynn-ga on 06 Apr 2003 10:40 PDT |
You may attain a high cholesterol count easily by gulping down a few greasy burgers per day at your nearest fast food joint. (One of the many great cultural gifts my homeland, the good old US of A, began inflicting upon, uh, I mean giving to, the the Real World right after we kicked out the Nazis.) Between that, and imbibing far too many pints at the local, you're going to give a marvelous performance. Be sure to post a site where we can access a sound file of the show! nancylynn-ga |
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Re: For the Attention of Journalist, please!
From: intotravel-ga on 06 Apr 2003 15:33 PDT |
"If no news, send rumors" ======================= Journalistic Skills "The only qualities essential for real success in journalism are ratlike cunning, a plausible manner, and a little literary ability. The capacity to steal other people's ideas and phrases that one about ratlike cunning was invented by my colleague Murray Sayre is also invaluable." Nicholas Tomalin, London, Sunday Times writer. [ What Journalists Dream of ] Media scholar William L. Rivers once asked Washington correspondents what leads they would most like to write. The responses included: Richard Valeriani, NBC Reporter: "I have just returned from death, and I can report to you that " Les Whitten, former assistant to Jack Anderson: "Jesus Christ, whose second coming has been promised for almost two thousand years, landed at Washington National Airport secretly today and confided his plans exclusively to this reporter." The above comes from an article about a book, "If no news, send rumors" by Stephen Bates at: http://www.nepalnews.com.np/contents/englishweekly/telegraph/2002/sep/sep25/impression.htm [ He also gets a reference from the Nepal News, below: http://www.nepalnews.com.np/contents/englishweekly/telegraph/2000/nov/nov29/impression.htm] ] * * * * * * * [ The one journalist who fascinated me for quite a while was one Toby Young, son of the also-famous Michael (who coined the term, meritocracy). Toby Y. seems to exemplify the opposite of "ratlike cunning" and "a plausible manner". Here is some stuff from his website: ] How to Lose Friends and Alienate People ======================================= By Toby Young The appeal of journalist Young's memoir is his willingness to skewer himself as savagely as he does his acquaintances and colleagues. The self-portrait is rarely flattering and sometimes repellent, but carries a startling ring of truth. Young targets Manhattan's superficial social-scene and gives a slashing insider's view of Vanity Fair and its parent company, Condé Nast. Consumed with the desire to be "somebody", Young is hired by editor Graydon Carter and unwittingly offends everyone he seeks to impress. He learns that journalists must have "a plausible manner, rat-like cunning and a little literary ability," and he encounters a caste system so rigid that if an important editor trips and falls, etiquette dictates to leave her on the floor and walk on, rather than offer assistance or directly address her. Young's descriptions of his efforts to crash Oscar parties is an appallingly accurate picture of wannabes whose identity depends on the celebrities they cultivate. He's amusingly perceptive in his analyses of women whose motive for marrying prominent men is to impress other women; this jealousy is brilliantly summed up by Gore Vidal's comment, "Every time a friend succeeds, I die a little." British-born Young, who has also been fired from the Times of London and the Guardian, paints Carter as a fascinatingly complex individual, capable of devastating employees or helping them face dire health problems. He also includes intriguing profiles of power couple Tina Brown and Harry Evans, and Sex and The City creator Candace Bushnell. What keeps readers on Young's side is his courage to keep fighting, even when confronted by publicist Peggy Siegal's withering line, "I have no respect for writers. They never make money. They're like poor people looking in the windows." http://www.tobyyoung.co.uk/pubweek.htm Search term: "ratlike cunning". Also took up Google's suggestion for "rat-like cunning" |
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Re: For the Attention of Journalist, please!
From: nancylynn-ga on 06 Apr 2003 18:13 PDT |
intotravel-ga has nailed it: "The one journalist who fascinated me for quite a while was one Toby Young . . . Toby Y. seems to exemplify the opposite of "ratlike cunning" and "a plausible manner". I read Young's hysterically funny book "How to Lose Friends and Alienate People." If you want to know what it's *really* like to be an entertainment journalist -- and have some good laughs -- read it! But Young did have to use rat-like cunning in order to corner the rats his magazine wanted to cover. One thing that amazed me about Young and his book is that there are Brits who are fixated-to-the-point-of-slobbering on celebs and celebrity culture. I'm an Anglophile who tends to think of all Brits like the characters in "Mrs. Miniver": inherently brave and unflappable; just very noble, with a high sense of civic duty. (And I'm sure most Brits do indeed fit that bill.) I read the London Times and Telegraph, and often forget about the city's less respected dailies. (Not that we don't have tabloids on this side of the pond.) |
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Re: For the Attention of Journalist, please!
From: probonopublico-ga on 07 Apr 2003 03:18 PDT |
Nancy Lynn! What a surprise! I posted a question on the Goldwyn Girls (173425) and, ever since, I have been trying to track down the lovely Nancy Lynn ... And now you've appeared, as if by magic. Isn't it a small world? KR Bryan |
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Mediaocracy
From: sergeantshultz-ga on 07 Apr 2003 22:04 PDT |
Reporters searching for the truth? First off probonopulico you are going to have to get rid of all your great punctuation. As for acting on the radio, portraying a reporter, I personally think most will believe what you make of it. And the real reporters wouldn't be caught dead listening to a radio play, except for radio critic's which neither you nor your friends reading this know of any. Unless it is a new career venture that you will do over and over and over, just have fun with. Maybe watch a few Mary Tyler Moore reruns. Or check out what Jimmy Olson has to say. Orson Welles did a great job of reporting didn't he? |
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