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beyond infinity
Category: Reference, Education and News Asked by: tenai-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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08 Apr 2003 11:12 PDT
Expires: 08 May 2003 11:12 PDT Question ID: 187760 |
I am looking for an english word meaning beyond infinity.... |
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Re: beyond infinity
From: mvguy-ga on 08 Apr 2003 11:27 PDT |
How about "ultrainfinity"? |
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Re: beyond infinity
From: knowledge_seeker-ga on 08 Apr 2003 11:31 PDT |
Our kids use "Infinity plus one" -K~ |
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Re: beyond infinity
From: pinkfreud-ga on 08 Apr 2003 11:46 PDT |
I believe the word you need is "transfinite". The theory of transfinite mathematics was pioneered by Georg Cantor. http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/1993/PSCF3-93Hedman.html |
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Re: beyond infinity
From: cynthia-ga on 08 Apr 2003 12:00 PDT |
Hi tenai, pinkfreud-ga should post "transfinite" in the answer box. Indeed, it means precicely this: transfinite http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=transfinite%20 Going beyond the finite. --Cynthia |
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Re: beyond infinity
From: cynthia-ga on 08 Apr 2003 12:03 PDT |
Hi again. I did just notice that "beyond the finite" is *only* infinity. Oh well. I'll try again! --Cynthia *blush* |
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Re: beyond infinity
From: tehuti-ga on 08 Apr 2003 12:18 PDT |
transcendental? |
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Re: beyond infinity
From: pafalafa-ga on 08 Apr 2003 12:21 PDT |
You might have to coin your own word. How about: "buzzlightyearism" |
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Re: beyond infinity
From: pinkfreud-ga on 08 Apr 2003 12:27 PDT |
Transfinite numbers, as conceived by Georg Cantor, go beyond infinity: "Cantor established that there was a distinction between infinity which is countable, and so-called transfinite numbers which are even bigger and can't be counted." http://www.dogsbody.org/news/beyond_inf.html http://www.laweekly.com/ink/03/16/quark-wertheim.php I know of no scientific term which is more apt in describing this concept. There may be words which would be more fanciful or more poetic, of course. |
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Re: beyond infinity
From: magnesium-ga on 08 Apr 2003 12:35 PDT |
Transfinite is it. Perhaps Google Answers' smartest researcher, mathtalk-ga, would like to confirm this for the questioner and take the prize. |
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Re: beyond infinity
From: calebu2-ga on 08 Apr 2003 13:47 PDT |
How about "Infinity to the googoleth power?" I know it's not a word, but it sounds cool (and it has googol in it from which google is derived :) This author suggests "transinfinite" : http://www.maxpages.com/markphilosophy/Philosophy and a google search of the term "transinfinite" produces a finite, yet non-zero set of pages that use the word. Less popular terms are "hyperinfinite", "superinifinite" and "outfinity". I have no clue what these terms mean, but they sound like they should be bigger than infinity. I tried comparing them on my hands and on my feet but ran out of toes and fingers. Perhaps some of the other researchers can help me - I'm at 10 and I still haven't reached the transinfinite numbers :) calebu2-ga |
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Re: beyond infinity
From: sgtcory-ga on 08 Apr 2003 13:58 PDT |
Omni-infinite Infinity implies the existence of something from the moment it was created. Omni infinite was always ... infinite. Worth a try right? ;-) SgtCory |
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Re: beyond infinity
From: mathtalk-ga on 08 Apr 2003 20:57 PDT |
Pinkfreud is correct in choosing "transfinite" for its connotation of the infinities that lie beyond any given infinity. Georg Cantor's theory of transfinite numbers, which we would today call infinite cardinals, was significant for demonstrating that there is more than one "size" of infinity. The smallest infinity is that of the set of whole numbers, which we call countably infinite. Cantor developed a rigorous proof that become known as his "diagonal" argument, that there are fewer whole numbers than there are real numbers. The cleverness of this 19th century argument sparked many important developments in the 20th century, such as Godel's incompleteness theorem and Turing's solution of the decision problem for automata. Unfortunately the burden of such great insight is a heavy one, and compounded by dirty tricks (of the academic variety) played on Cantor by jealous colleagues, his mind descended into madness. Part of Cantor's anxiety was due to his discovery of what we call today Cantor's paradox. Is there or is there not a largest cardinal number? Cantor's diagonal argument tells us there cannot be a largest cardinal number, yet in naive set theory, the cardinality of the universal set (the set containing all mathematical objects) gives such a largest cardinal number. Simplified to its bare bones Cantor's paradox becomes Russell's paradox (about the set of all sets that do not contain themselves, which must contain itself if and only if it doesn't contain itself). There is a related but subtly different paradox of the largest ordinal number, known as the Burali-Forti paradox. For ordinals there is indeed a well-defined "infinity plus one" (regardless of what ordinal you wish to add one to), which is why there cannot be a largest ordinal. On the other hand in naive set theory one can show that the set of all ordinal numbers together constitute a largest ordinal number! Such paradoxes of naive set theory (strikingly reminiscent of Kant's 18th century "paradoxes" of space and time) gave impetus to the investigation of the foundations of logic and mathematics, and after these "gardens of thought" had been properly weeded, to an explosion of understanding just how infinitely many the infinities are. regards, mathtalk |
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Re: beyond infinity
From: electronixpress-ga on 13 Apr 2003 09:54 PDT |
The word you are looking for is "transinfinite". |
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