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Mortality rate and average age of death
Category: Science > Math Asked by: racecar-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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09 Apr 2003 10:56 PDT
Expires: 09 May 2003 10:56 PDT Question ID: 188350 |
In the answer to a recent question (ID 187759), it says that the total US death rate is 848.9 per 100,000 (call this fraction A). I assume this means that in any given year, the expectation value of the number of deaths in a random sample of 100,000 people is 848.9 (meaning one of every 117.8 are expected to die that year). I have seen numbers similar to this before. Meanwhile, the average age of death is 76.9 or so (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lifexpec.htm). My question is: how can both these be true? To illustrate my confusion, here are a couple of examples: If everyone lived to exactly the same age, so that the death rate at that age is one, and at all other ages zero, the age would be have to be 1/A, or about 117.8 years, to satisfy the total death rate statistic above. If death rate were independent of age, so that the probability of dying in a given period of time is the same for everyone, regardless of age, the distribution of age of death would be exponential, and the average lifetime would be -(ln(1 - A))^-1, or about 117.3 years. Neither of these cases is realistic: in the first, death rate as a function of age is a single spike, and in the second, it is uniform; in reality, the death rate is nonzero everywhere, but increases with age. However, this seems like sort of a middle ground between my two idealized cases, both of which give approximately equal, rediculously long, life expectancies. What is it about the distribution of death rate with age in the real world that allows average lifetime to be so much shorter, or have I misunderstood something? | |
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Re: Mortality rate and average age of death
From: mathtalk-ga on 09 Apr 2003 12:56 PDT |
Actuarial science is a wonderfully subtle application of probability. In reality the probability of death is relatively high both in infancy and in "old age". If you are interested I can scrounge up some actuarial tables for you, but since the percentage of population over 100 is so small, actuaries generally just assume a constant death rate over a certain age. If you work with a fixed population, like Civil War veterans, you can get some surprisingly accurate numbers for the declining size of the population with the passage of time. As you point out, in a dynamic population that is non-homogeneous because of birth rates, immigration, war, epidemics, etc., accurate predictions are more difficult to come by. regards, mathtalk-ga |
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Re: Mortality rate and average age of death
From: neilzero-ga on 09 Apr 2003 18:34 PDT |
I had similar puzzlement, and was going to ask some friends who are better at math than I. I tentitively assumed it was similar to the descrepency that occurs in compound interest. I can see where the imigrants, those who leave the country and increasing population squew somewhat the numbers, but the amount seems excessive. Perhaps you can get some figures for West Germany which I believe had a decreasing population for the decade before the Berlin wall came down. Here the discrepency should be in the opposite direction if we have found the real cause. My friend thinks it is because senior citizens are living longer now even if younger people have the same mortality as a decade or two ago. He is going to ask his sister who was the supervisor for the actuary department of a life insurance company. Neil |
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