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Potassium Sulphide
Category: Science > Chemistry Asked by: mitchuhm-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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11 Apr 2003 12:52 PDT
Expires: 11 May 2003 12:52 PDT Question ID: 189409 |
This chemical is used to etch copper foil.It makes the copper go black.Once dry it can be polished up leaving a residue behind where needed.It comes in the form of a stone like substance.A small piece dissolved in water,Turns into a yellow colour and has a smell like rotten eggs. I require suppliers for this chemical in South Africa,U K or the States but firstly South Africa. |
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Re: Potassium Sulphide
From: xarqi-ga on 11 Apr 2003 14:47 PDT |
There'd be no problem in the UK or US, but SA seems tricky. Best I can find - and its not too good- is http://www.daytona.co.za/products.htm They don't have K2S that you want, but they have sodium sulphide, which, if my chemistry hasn't completely left me, will have similar properties. |
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Re: Potassium Sulphide
From: mitchuhm-ga on 12 Apr 2003 15:18 PDT |
I have someone coming over from the States, Philadelphia next month as well as family in the UK. Can you tell me where I can obtain this chemical at both places please. I have contacted daytona,as it is weekend ,I expect to hear from then during next week. Many thanks, Mitch Webber |
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Re: Potassium Sulphide
From: xarqi-ga on 12 Apr 2003 19:52 PDT |
I may have spoken too soon - sorry - I figured I'd just wander over to Sigma-Aldrich, and there it would be. Not so. I don't like your chances of getting it on a plane: this stuff "explosively decomposes on shock". http://www.itcilo.it/english/actrav/telearn/osh/ic/1312738.htm and is highly toxic: http://www.ci.tucson.az.us/arthazards/metal2.html I looked high and low and turned up little, except this: http://www.silverprint.co.uk/chem24.html I hope it helps. Also consider that local supplier of Na2S - some of the links suggested it was an alternative. If all else fails - rub rotten eggs on your copper and use H2S! Oh BTW, K2S is also called "Liver of sulfur". I didn't try to track it through this name. Regards xarqi |
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Re: Potassium Sulphide
From: arsenic-ga on 14 Apr 2003 17:54 PDT |
FeS + 2 NaOH -> Fe(OH)2 + Na2S ? I don't know if it is that simple; but FeS (Ferrous Sulfide) is at least not poisonous or explosive, and can be taken onboard a plane. NaOH (lye) is avaliable everywhere. |
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Re: Potassium Sulphide
From: xarqi-ga on 14 Apr 2003 21:39 PDT |
FeS + 2 NaOH -> Fe(OH)2 + Na2S? Yup - under pressure at 400 degrees Celsius http://www.oretest.com.au/news_letter_pdfs/nletters_9.htm |
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Re: Potassium Sulphide
From: xarqi-ga on 14 Apr 2003 21:40 PDT |
And if there's O2 around, you get Na2SO4. |
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Re: Potassium Sulphide
From: arsenic-ga on 19 Apr 2003 11:57 PDT |
What about in aquatic solution? Will the FeS dissolve in a strong solution of lye? |
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Re: Potassium Sulphide
From: xarqi-ga on 19 Apr 2003 18:47 PDT |
I'm only an "accidental chemist", but I don't think the reaction will go too well unless you push it. Something about activation energy perhaps. I'm a bit frustrated by this. There seem to be plenty of references to people using K2S for this purpose (curiously, mostly in Arizona), but nobody is saying where they get it from! |
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Re: Potassium Sulphide
From: arsenic-ga on 20 Apr 2003 05:46 PDT |
Found it! (At least how you can make it your self:) "Mix 50% solution Caustic (NaOH/KOH) 1 to 1 with water Bring to a low boil Add 1/2 to 3/4 lbs sulfur per 1 gallon of solution and continue to boil until sulfur is dissolved. (Sulfur is readily availabe over-the-counter at most pharmacies)" Source: http://www.finishing.com/79/57.html Liver of sulfur will work exactly like Potassium Sulfide, it is a mixture of various alkali polysulfides. This page suggests another source: "If you wish to use "liver of sulfur" you can purchase at gardening supplies nurseries as "lime sulfur", calcium polysulphide. If you wish to antique then dilute to 1-10 ml/litre. If you wish to strip copper use 50% strength." Source: http://www.finishing.com/128/71.html |
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