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Local History of Lancashire, England in the period 1500-1562
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference Asked by: sam7045-ga List Price: $25.00 |
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12 Apr 2003 14:40 PDT
Expires: 12 May 2003 14:40 PDT Question ID: 189727 |
what can you tell me about the family of John Moody (aka Mody, Modie) who was the rector/parson of Eccleston, Lancashire, England parish from 1544 until his death in 1562? and is there anything which says where he actually lived? Eccleston was in the Hundred of Leyland. Please give any references used in compiling the answer Please identify the references used to compile the answer |
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Re: Local History of Lancashire, England in the period 1500-1562
From: answerfinder-ga on 13 Apr 2003 04:10 PDT |
Dear sam7045-ga If a researcher does not find this information on the internet, I would suggest you make an enquiries at the Lancashire Record Office or employ an agent to make enquiries for you. That would be the best source of information given the period and the information you require. http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/education/d_lif/ro/index.asp answerfinder-ga |
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Re: Local History of Lancashire, England in the period 1500-1562
From: sam7045-ga on 13 Apr 2003 08:06 PDT |
Thanks for taking the time & interest. I had a few hours at LRO specifically looking for Moody's will, but to no avail. Some bits in Feet of Fines, VCH etc, but really struggling with him. Hence I thought I would see if anyone more proficient than me on the web, or maybe with access to Ancestry/Cd's or something else could come up with something. Thanks again |
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Re: Local History of Lancashire, England in the period 1500-1562
From: kemlo-ga on 14 Apr 2003 15:09 PDT |
Was he rector or was he parson? There is a difference. Rector is the more senior. Who held the patronage for the church? Try contacting various cathedrals in England. Unfortunatly the nearest were not always his dioceses. |
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Re: Local History of Lancashire, England in the period 1500-1562
From: sam7045-ga on 14 Apr 2003 15:41 PDT |
Thanks kemlo-ga. VCH refers to him as being instituted as Rector of Eccleston under the patronage of the Earl of Derby in 1544, but VCH also refers to him as 'the priest John Moody ... in 1548..'; a 1558 Final Concord is 'John Modie, clerk'; and in 1562 VCH shows 'Burial of John Moody, Rector of Eccleston' So I'm not quite sure what he was... Am I right in thinking all this refers to C.of E, but what about the reference to 'priest'. Can u help? |
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Re: Local History of Lancashire, England in the period 1500-1562
From: leli-ga on 15 Apr 2003 05:56 PDT |
Although nowadays the word "priest" is most often used for RC priests in England, it can still refer to the C of E. See, for instance: http://www.cofe.anglican.org/about/organisation.html As for "clerk" - this would be an alternative to "cleric", just another name for the same job! If I were trying to find out where he'd lived, I'd look at old maps of Eccleston, trying to find a house near the church which could have been the parsonage, rectory or vicarage. I'd also want to follow up this reference to an early 17c rectory in Eccleston and see if it led me anywhere - though no chance of tracing it online, I fear. http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/iomnhas/v024p453.htm There's also an 1808 reference to a rectory but this may be a much later building: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/Gazetteer/EF.htm Have you already asked the current rector? http://www.blackburn.anglican.org/index.htm?http://www.blackburn.anglican.org/diodir/clgytz.htm Or the diocese? http://www.blackburn.anglican.org/index.htm Sometimes you can get a result with a question like this by going to visit the church, seeing if it has a guidebook with clues, checking out inscriptions in the church and/or finding local people with an interest in local history, especially bell-ringers, flower-arrangers etc. Apologies if you've already tried all these things - good luck! |
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Re: Local History of Lancashire, England in the period 1500-1562
From: kemlo-ga on 15 Apr 2003 10:45 PDT |
The current job title is " Clerk in Holy Orders" There was often a relationship between priest and patron, ie distant cousin etc. |
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Re: Local History of Lancashire, England in the period 1500-1562
From: sam7045-ga on 15 Apr 2003 11:41 PDT |
Thanks to leli-ga & kemlo (again). Even if there is nothing directly on the web, there is a wonderful resource - people with knowledge. Your comments will lead me to explore a couple of new avenues. One more query - were these clergy in this period officially or unofficially celibate? I wouldn't like to do more searching for his family if there weren't any! |
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