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my business phone number inconsistent with the address on Google
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: ken5382-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
14 Apr 2003 19:20 PDT
Expires: 14 May 2003 19:20 PDT Question ID: 190556 |
I entered my business phone number, which is a cell phone 805 890-3120, and the google link tomapquests says my business is located in Oxnard CA, but it is not. It is at 649 E. Easy Street, Unit C, Simi Valley CA 93065. I am concerned that I may have had customers think I am in Oxnard, and this will cause much confusion and maybe sales. Why does the Mapquest think I am in Oxnard, and how can this be corrected? THank you! Ken |
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Re: my business phone number inconsistent with the address on Google
Answered By: aceresearcher-ga on 15 Apr 2003 10:41 PDT |
Hi, Ken! A Google Search on the string 805-890-3120 brings up: "The Loft Home Collection, (805) 890-3120, Oxnard, CA 93030" ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=805-890-3120&btnG=Google+Search However, it looks like your business name is: "Patton and Associates Environmental Consulting... tel: (805) 581-3146 fax: (805) 581-4130" http://www.pattonandassociates.com/newcontact.html Do you also run (or have you in the past) a business named "The Loft Home Collection"? If not, then it looks as if your cell phone number is relatively new, and this is the directory listing for the previous owner. Just like phone books, web telephone directories on services such as Google, AOL, AnyWho, InfoSpace, etc. do not get updated instantaneously with changes in directory listings. Given the massive numbers of telephone numbers in the United States, it is likely that they may sometimes lag behind for months. The owners have to purchase and upload updates to those directories from the local phone companies, and with all the different local phone companies all over the United States, you can see why it might be a never-ending task to keep the listings updated. There are a couple of things you **can** do to try to fix your Google Listing: 1) Click on the little telephone icon on the above telephone number Search Results page: ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=805-890-3120&btnG=Google+Search That will bring up Google's telephone directory Help page: "Google has added the convenience of US street address and phone number lookup to the information we provide through our search box. You'll see publicly listed phone numbers and addresses at the top of results pages for searches that contain specific kinds of keywords... To have your residential or business phone and address information removed from the Google PhoneBook, click here." ://www.google.com/help/features.html#wp Now, it doesn't give instructions on how to update your directory listing, only to remove it: "To remove your business listing information from the Google phonebook, please send a signed request on your company letterhead to the address below. Include a phone number at which you can be reached so that we may verify your phonebook removal request. Google Phonebook Removal 2400 Bayshore Parkway Mountain View, CA 94043" ://www.google.com/help/pbremoval.html However, what you **can** try, instead of waiting for Google to purchase and upload new directory listings from your phone company, is to send them a "Change" Request. As directed above, write or type the request on a piece of your official company letterhead. Ask that your directory listing be **CORRECTED**, and clearly label the old listing and the new listing. Be sure to sign your name. -------------------------------------------------------- Dear Google, I am requesting that you please **UPDATE** my telephone directory listing. Current **OLD** information: ---------------------------- The Loft Home Collection Oxnard, CA 93030 (805) 890-3120 Please update to this **NEW** information: ------------------------------------------ Patton and Associates Environmental Consulting 649 East Easy Street, Unit C Simi Valley, CA 93065 (805) 890-3120 Thank you! <signature here> Ken Patton Patton and Associates Environmental Consulting -------------------------------------------------------- Then address your letter as follows: Google Phonebook ATTN: **UPDATE** (NOT Removal) 2400 Bayshore Parkway Mountain View, CA 94043 I can't guarantee it, but hopefully this should have the desired result. 2) Change the information on your contact page to: tel : (805) 581-3146 cell: (805) 890-3120 fax : (805) 581-4130 http://www.pattonandassociates.com/newcontact.html This way, if someone enters your cell phone number into the Google Search box, your website -- and not just Google's phone directory listing -- will come up in the Search Results. Then resubmit this contact page URL: http://www.pattonandassociates.com/newcontact.html to be crawled again by the Googlebot: ://www.google.com/addurl.html Search Strategy "649 East Easy Street" "Simi Valley" ://www.google.com/search?q=%22649+East+Easy+Street%22+%22Simi+Valley%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=0 Before Rating my Answer, if you have any questions about this information, please post a Request for Clarification, and I will be glad to see what I can do for you. I hope that this Answer provides exactly the information that you needed to get your information corrected and the Customers rolling through your doors! Regards, aceresearcher |
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Re: my business phone number inconsistent with the address on Google
From: jonmm-ga on 15 Apr 2003 12:23 PDT |
I think the answer may have missed the point of the question. He asked why if he is located in one city would his cel phone number show up as a different city. The city associated with a phone number is based on the 3 digit exchange (in this case 805.) Cel phone exchanges are based on where the cel phone company is based out of, not where the user is located. This is in contrast to your home number which is based on where your residence is located. Cel phone companies buy blocks of numbers in their location and assign them to their customers. So, if you buy a cel phone from a company in City A and then you use it in City B, the name of City A will show up in directories, caller ID, itemized phone bills, etc. |
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Re: my business phone number inconsistent with the address on Google
From: aceresearcher-ga on 15 Apr 2003 17:11 PDT |
Thanks for your input, jonmm. While the situation you describe **might** be true if Google provided directory listings only for cell phone companies, what Google **actually** provides are telephone directory listings for Individuals and Businesses. What shows up on the following page is an actual Business Directory (a.k.a. Yellow Pages) listing for a company named "The Loft Home Collection", and not just a geographical location by cell phone exchange. ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=805-890-3120&btnG=Google+Search This company apparently had Ken's cell phone number at some time in the past -- and the number MAY or MAY NOT have been attached to a cell phone at that time. Google's Business Directory/Yellow Pages listings have not yet been updated to show that this number now belongs to Ken. While Researchers strive for accuracy and appreciate being courteously informed of inaccuracies, it is important for Commenters to read a Researcher's Answer **carefully** -- and understand it fully -- before assuming that it is incorrect. Regards, aceresearcher |
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Re: my business phone number inconsistent with the address on Google
From: jonmm-ga on 16 Apr 2003 06:07 PDT |
Per the researcher's follow up comment, I did read his answer **carefully**, I do fully understand the subject, and I still believe it is incorrect. I think the researcher may want to reread the question **carefully** and fully understand it before answering it. The question asked about the listing on Mapquest and why it lists the wrong city for his business cel phone number. The answer provided gives instructions on how to contact Google which has nothing to do with the situation. |
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Re: my business phone number inconsistent with the address on Google
From: aceresearcher-ga on 16 Apr 2003 09:36 PDT |
Thanks again for your input, jonmm. If you read the Question **carefully**, you will see that it does **indeed** refer to Google: << ...and the google link tomapquests... >> Ken has used Google to pull up a telephone directory listing for his cell phone number, then clicked on the "MapQuest" link on the same line as that listing: ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=805-890-3120&btnG=Google+Search His Question has **everything** to do with Google, and the Answer that I provided is the best one for his situation. Thanks for participating in the Answers process, jonmm! Please feel free to request clarification in the future when there is something that you don't understand. Regards, ace |
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Re: my business phone number inconsistent with the address on Google
From: jonmm-ga on 16 Apr 2003 09:54 PDT |
I understand completely. It appears that the researcher does not. If you need further help in understanding the question asked or any other subject, please feel free to check with an adult or your teacher. Thanks! |
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Re: my business phone number inconsistent with the address on Google
From: jonmm-ga on 16 Apr 2003 10:02 PDT |
Based on "ace"'s answer and comments, one might assume that you should contact Google for a concern about any site on the web, because Google has a link to the site. So, if you have a concern about AOL, "ace" would like you to contact Google, because Google has a link to AOL. Same goes for Amazon, MSN, KMart, United Airlines.......? |
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Re: my business phone number inconsistent with the address on Google
From: jonmm-ga on 16 Apr 2003 11:01 PDT |
My orignal comment was accurate and well thought out. Unfortunately, the researcher become sarcastic and rude when it was obvious that I had given the right answer in a clear and polite manner, while he had failed to do. Pinkfreud's comment was rude, insulting, unprofessional, and inappropriate. I suggest that you also have an adult or teacher read your comments before you submit them so that you do not embarass yourself again. |
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Re: my business phone number inconsistent with the address on Google
From: jonmm-ga on 16 Apr 2003 11:07 PDT |
I was shocked at how 2 researchers could be so incompetent and rude, but then I did some searching and noticed that you 2 "pals" have made fools of yourselves together before. Subject: Just for Pinkfreud-ga: Make Me Laugh Category: Arts and Entertainment Asked by: aceresearcher-ga |
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Re: my business phone number inconsistent with the address on Google
From: hammer-ga on 16 Apr 2003 11:16 PDT |
Note to Researchers: I suggest that you don't feed the troll. PinkFreud and AceResearcher both have excellent reputations that speak for themselves and do not require defending. Ken5382-ga also seems intelligent enough to determine if Ace's answer covers his question and to request clarification if it does not. Ken5382: I apologize for causing another email saying that someone has commented on your question. If Aceresearcher has misunderstood your question, please post a request for clarification so she can get you the answers you need. If the answer is indeed what you were looking for, good luck in getting you telephone number/address issue taken care of. - Hammer |
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Re: my business phone number inconsistent with the address on Google
From: jonmm-ga on 16 Apr 2003 11:28 PDT |
Some of you researchers make me laugh. As anyone can see from reading the comments in order - the first person to be rude and insulting was "ace." I responded sarcastically to a rude comment. The next person to be extremely rude was "pink." And hammer adds his own rude comment. Don't feed the troll? The only trolls here are "ace", "pink" and "hammer." |
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Re: my business phone number inconsistent with the address on Google
From: mathtalk-ga on 16 Apr 2003 12:02 PDT |
Hi, jonmm-ga: Please note the pentultimate sentence of ken5382-ga's question: "Why does the Mapquest think I am in Oxnard, and how can this be corrected?" A moment's reflection should convince you that the issue of how to go about correcting the situation was indeed raised by the customer, and that the researcher was then obligated to address "how" as well as "why". A little experimentation should convince you (by inspecting the URLs) whether the information Google forwards to Mapquest contains address or phone number data, and therefore whether a fix is required on the Google "directory" side of things or elsewhere. Bear in mind that as part of this answer, the researcher has made a suggestion about how ken5382-ga could try to update Google's phone book listing. As a result of this I'm hoping you would take the time to correct any heated misstatements you may come to realize you've made. regards, mathtalk-ga |
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Re: my business phone number inconsistent with the address on Google
From: elcon-ga on 16 Apr 2003 12:21 PDT |
Looks like sour grapes from someone who is sore because he didn't get to be in Google Answers? I'd say the question got answered and the questioner even got a bonus -- a "fix" suggested. I'd give it a high rating and ignore the silly remarks by someone who obviously can't get in to be a Google Answerer (is that what you're called?). |
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Re: my business phone number inconsistent with the address on Google
From: missy-ga on 16 Apr 2003 23:22 PDT |
Hello Ken! As Aceresearcher has correctly pointed out, it appears that entering your current cell phone number into Google brings up a listing for the number's previous owners. While I'm sure this is quite irritating to you, the directions Aceresearcher has provided should get things cleared up for you - particularly updating your contact page for your website. The new information will be picked up next month when the Googlebot comes by to update the index. If your concern is that people may be confused by the area code, you needn't worry. According to Americom's Area Code Decoder, the 805 area code (which is *not* an exchange) covers: "Bakersfield, Oxnard, Santa Clarita, Thousand Oaks, Simi Valley, Ventura, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, Camarillo and Lompoc" Area Code Decoder http://decoder.americom.com/cgi-bin/decoder.cgi The area code indicates what region of the country you are located in - in all but the largest cities, which may have several area codes to themselves, area codes are a better indicator of what part of a given state you live in, not necessarily the specific city. Contrary to commenter jonmm-ga's assertion, cell phone companies *can not* purchase the entire 805 area code. They *may* purchase entire exchange blocks, but an exchange is completely different from the area code. The "exchange" (the first three numbers *after* the area code) is actually based on a district "switching office" (also called a CO or central office). Prior to 1958, when the old district names were phased out in favor of All Numeric Calling (ANC), telephone numbers consisted of the district name, followed by 5 numbers. For example, I live near the Greenwood CO in Toledo. Old-timers in my neighborhood are still known to give their phone numbers as "Greenwood 8 - 1212"! The first two letters correspond to the first two numbers of the district exchange (47), the next number corresponds to a specific area (bounded by certain streets) within the district (area 8), giving us an exchange of 478 on the ANC system. The local exchange code tells the phone company where you live, so it can determine how to charge you for your call (local or toll). Obviously, this is a little different for cell numbers. In that, the commenter is partially correct - the city that shows up on itemized bills will be the city in which your service provider is, but that really has nothing to do with why the number's previous owners are showing up in Google's search listings. How do I know all this? My aged aunt was once an operator for Ohio Bell, and my brother in-law is employed by what is now SBC-Ameritech. I called them up and asked them. I've found a nifty resource that explains much of this in detail, I hope you find it interesting: The Telephone EXchange Name Project http://www.ourwebhome.com/tenp/tenproject.html --Missy |
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