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famous saying:
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: fritzg-ga List Price: $15.00 |
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16 Apr 2003 21:14 PDT
Expires: 16 May 2003 21:14 PDT Question ID: 191570 |
stories about my death are premature ' exaggerated" (forgive my spelling ..0 WHO SAID THAT (MARK TWAIN?) AND WHAT'S THE CORRECT LINE ? |
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Re: famous saying:
Answered By: tisme-ga on 16 Apr 2003 21:43 PDT |
Hello fritzg, Mark Twain indeed said the quote and the proper version is: "The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated" Here are some academic links (.EDU) to back up this version: http://www.seas.upenn.edu/~anantm/quotes.html http://www.unc.edu/~nielsen/soci208/cdocs/gould.htm http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~ralf/quotes.html http://www.stanford.edu/~amwso/crichton/crichton/timeint.html I hope this is the type of answer you were looking for. If you need any clarifications, please let me know and I will do my best to assist you. If you are interested in how I found this answer for you, please continue reading. All the best, tisme-ga Search Strategy: Here is my mental train of thought as I worked to find the solution for you. I found different versions of the quote, but they were obviously errors because only one or two websites had them. I include them though as well as the search terms in case you are interested in how I found this solution. Google Search: twain "report about my death" ://www.google.com/search?q=twain+%22report+about+my+death%22 As Mark Twain said, 'The report about my death was an exaggeration,' and the same can be said today about VHS." SOURCE: http://www.recordingmedia.org/news/press-vhsanniversary.html Next hit I made was with this search in Google Groups: twain "stories about my death" OR "story about my death" http://groups.google.com/groups?q=twain+%22stories+about+my+death%22+OR+%22story+about+my+death%22 "("The stories about my death have been greatly exaggerated" or something like that)." SOURCE: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=twain+%22stories+about+my+death%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3583E7DE.26D1%40together.net&rnum=1 My next search: twain "rumors about my death" ://www.google.com/search?q=twain+%22rumors+about+my+death%22 I found two sources with this version: "the rumors about my death are greatly exaggerated": SOURCE: http://skepdic.com/comments/psychoancom.html SOURCE: http://nanodot.org/articles/01/12/27/2056208.shtml Finally I found the right quote with this search on Google (1,590 results): twain "of my death" exaggerated OR exaggerated ://www.google.com/search?q=twain+%22of+my+death%22+exaggerated+OR+exaggerated This search made me confident that this was the right quote (994 results with this exact quote): twain "reports of my death" exaggerated OR exaggerated ://www.google.com/search?q=twain+%22reports+of+my+death%22+exaggerated+OR+exaggerated This search made me even more confident (took a look at the 587 results that did not use "reports of my death" but had "of my death" and found they were mostly typos or deviations from the proper quote: twain exaggerated OR exaggerated "of my death " -"reports of my" ://www.google.com/search?q=twain+exaggerated+OR+exaggerated+%22of+my+death+%22+%2D%22reports+of+my%22 Finally, I was interested in how many universities had the version I thought was right, so I searched for: site:edu twain "reports of my death" exaggerated OR exaggerated ://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aedu+twain+%22reports+of+my+death%22+exaggerated+OR+exaggerated This exact quote had a majority: site:edu twain "reports of my death are greatly exaggerated" ://www.google.com/search?q=site:edu+twain+%22reports+of+my+death+are+greatly+exaggerated%22 | |
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Re: famous saying:
From: missy-ga on 16 Apr 2003 22:06 PDT |
I've always heard this variant: "Reports of my demise have been greatly exaggerated." "Few letters to the editor have as powerful an influence on both a daily newspaper and its readership as a letter published the next day which in one sentence observes that a key statement or assumption in the news story or editorial was false. As a model for an effective letter to the editor, again, emulate Mark Twain's famous letter to the New York Sun: "Reports of my demise have been greatly exaggerated."" Writing Letters To The Editor http://www.ieeeusa.org/forum/guide/lettertotheeditor.html [ "reports of my demise" "Mark Twain" ] A similar variant reads "News of my untimely demise is, of course, greatly exaggerated." Still others read along the lines of what Tisme has found for you. Perhaps the best way to confirm what Mr. Clemens said would be to speak with the archivists at the New York Sun, to see if they have a copy of his letter. --Missy |
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Re: famous saying:
From: juggler-ga on 16 Apr 2003 22:17 PDT |
Here's another take on this: "Other apocryphal Twainisms include: ... 'The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated.' (Actually, in 1897, when reports of the illness of James Ross Clemens, a cousin, were somehow misconstrued to mean that Twain himself was lying at death's door in London, he cleared up matters by telling the reporter who'd stopped by to check on him that 'The report of my death was an exaggeration.' The 'greatly' was added by Twain himself years after the fact in preparing an account of this incident. In his first draft he has himself directing the reporter to "Say the report is exaggerated,'' but in a later draft he scribbled "greatly" in front of 'exaggerated.' And there was never a wire sent to a London paper, as the anecdote now has it.)" http://www.snopes.com/quotes/twain.htm |
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Re: famous saying:
From: tisme-ga on 16 Apr 2003 22:24 PDT |
Hi missy, I did run across those version as well but based my answer on the most popular version online. I guess it could be the case that everybody is misquoting, but I thought that using edu websites would be a safeguard from that. site:edu "reports of my demise" "Mark Twain" only has five results. In addition, "new york sun" "of my death" twain also returns only five results! "of my demise" twain returns 300 results. "of my demise" twain "new york sun" returns only three results. "of my death" twain returns 4,290. I have to agree with you though and if fritzg wants to follow up on this here is the contact information for the New York Sun: For General Information: write to: 105 Chambers Street, 2nd Fl New York, NY 10007 telephone: 212-406-2000 SOURCE: http://pr.nysun.com/contact.php Thanks for the commment missy, tisme-ga |
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Re: famous saying:
From: missy-ga on 17 Apr 2003 00:12 PDT |
Tisme, Have a look at Juggler's source. It appears that while this quote is often attributed to Mark Twain, it's unlikely that he ever said it (which would certainly explain the many variations of the tale!) --M |
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