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Just whining maybe??
Category: Health > Conditions and Diseases Asked by: dpm9006-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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18 Apr 2003 08:26 PDT
Expires: 18 May 2003 08:26 PDT Question ID: 192240 |
For about 25 years I have had 3-4 episodes/year of my palms and soles being covered with tiny vesicles that itch terribly, last 5-7 days. Ten years ago during routine blood work, was found to have elevated liver enzymes (5x). Complete workup including liver biopsy, no cause found. (do not take Tylenol or drink alcohol, not overweight). In last six months have had two episodes of tingling/numbness in lower leg, episode of blurry vision (3 days), some incontinence of bowel and bladder, extreme fatigue. Complete and thorough blood workup again, only revealing the elevated liver enzymes again. 42-year-old WF, always extremely healthy, and even when enzymes were 5x elevated, no problems whatsoever. But lower leg/knee problems and extreme fatigue now really bothering me. I think my doc thinks I am just a whiner. Where do I go from here? I have been tested for hepatitis, thyroid, diabetes, arthritis, immune disorders, and recently had a nerve conduction test on lower leg - all normal. Any of this related, or do I just ignore and quit bugging my doc (have seen him twice in four months). DPM |
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Re: Just whining maybe??
Answered By: spot_tippybuttons-ga on 19 Apr 2003 14:59 PDT |
Dear DPM, You may not be just whining. While the symptoms you describe may not be anything, symptoms such as you describe as well as other vague symptoms such as fatigue, weight gain and unusual body aches can all be indicators of one of many autoimmune diseases. While you mention that you have been tested for some immune diseases, you should know that according to a recent article in Shape magazine that discusses autoimmune diseases with American Autoimmune Related Disease Association (AARDA) founder, Virginia Ladd, getting a correct diagnoses for an autoimmune disease takes on average four to five years and four to five different doctors. Because the symptoms are often so vague, they are frequently dismissed as non-existent or psychological. Many such diseases are difficult to test for, which compounds the problem. A survey of patients with autoimmune diseases conducted by the AARDA discovered that almost 50 percent of respondents were labeled hypochondriacs or chronic complainers in the earliest stages of their illness. Ironically, the class of medical professional most likely to suggest the first correct diagnoses was a mental health professional. Some common autoimmune diseases include Graves' disease, rheumatoid arthritis, pernicious anemia, lupus and multiple sclerosis. Almost 75% of autoimmune disease sufferers are women. A second possibility that matches your description is heart disease. Numbness, blurred vision and extreme fatigue are all common with heart failure. In addition, because the liver gets a fixed amount of cardiac output changes in liver function are also not uncommon in congestive heart failure... although I'm not sure that the typical profile matches exactly what you describe. Nonetheless, a basic test such as an ECG\EKG is simple and inexpensive, so you may want to discuss it with your doctor if you feel this may be a possibility. Finally, fortunately or unfortunately (depending on how you look at it :-) ) many of the symptoms you describe can indeed be indicative of more everyday things: such as severe stress. With all this in mind, the best thing you can do is get a second opinion from a different doctor. You know your own body better than anyone else ever will; and while you certainly don't want to be up at night worrying needlessly, if you feel there may be a problem then by all means you have the right to have someone else take a look at you. In the meantime, if the symptoms are bothering you a lot consider keeping a journal. Try to note when your symptoms occur or become more severe, and if there seem to be any pattern or triggers (there may not be). This will help you be more able to answer the doctor's questions when you see another physician. Other than that, try to take good care of yourself. As a culture, modern society does not eat, exercise or sleep as healthfully as the human body needs to operate efficiently. Many of us know we need to reduce the stress in our lives or eat more nutritiously, but very few of us do it. Proper self-care can help many people feel better, healthy or otherwise. If you need any clarification, don't hesitate to ask. Good luck, and I hope you feel better soon. -Spot "Diseases Doctors Misdiagnose," by Dana Hudepohl. Shape, (March 2003). |
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Re: Just whining maybe??
From: jcg-ga on 19 Apr 2003 03:11 PDT |
Dear DPM, Yikes. Get a new doctor. If you can get access to an academic institution in a major city, this may help since you have an unusual case. Do not give up - keep pushing until they can either figure it out or help you (these do not always go together). Although I'm not an anti-breast implant freak, I have known of cases with some similar symptoms in which silicone implants were involved. If you have these, find someone who specializes in such patients. Just whining? No. Good luck. JCG |
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Re: Just whining maybe??
From: pinkfreud-ga on 19 Apr 2003 03:28 PDT |
This is a long shot, but have you been tested for Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever? One of the characteristic signs is a macular rash on the palms of the hands and soles of the feet. Elevated liver enzymes are also present in RMSF. |
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Re: Just whining maybe??
From: nfpolaris-ga on 22 Apr 2003 13:22 PDT |
Hi Dmp, Just wantyed to add my 2 cents. Please don't give up...my mother went through a very similar situation. For 2 years she went from dr to dr, with numness, tingling...fatigue....blurry vision...sluring of words....no one could find anything....she was hesitant to go out, in case symtoms hit & then....she'd go weeks with no symptoms, back to normal. Since Drs had ruled out so many things they told her to go see a shrink....she literally thought she was going crazy. A strong support system was crucial, we knew there was something wrong and we reasured her that she was not going crazy and that we just had to keep on looking f or the root cause. Alas, after 2 very long years she was diagnosed with MS. She went to the 100's Dr....an MS specialist in Miami who in 3 seconds flat told her it was MS and confirmed it with an MRI and other tests. It has now been another 2 years and she is doing great. They put her on some amazing medicine (shots once a week) and she is living again and an insparation to us all. Please..please Dmp...don't give up....if you have to see 500 doctors..do it....you are NOT whining....but if you have to kick and scream and..yes..whine to make them hear your pain....DO IT.....you deserve it!!! God Bless!!! |
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Re: Just whining maybe??
From: drbrains-ga on 27 Apr 2003 12:09 PDT |
If I were you and wanted an answer, this is what I'd do: Pick out a dermatologist in advance. Preferably a good one in private practice with a hospital affiliation, not just an acne/dermabrasion guy. Then, wait until the rash broke out on your palms again. At that time, immediately go to the dermatologist's office, and tell the receptionist you'd be willing to self-pay for an appointment TODAY to have this looked at. If you can have this conversation while the doctor is in earshot, so much the better. Then just show the doctor the rash. She'll likely start asking you about the other symptoms, and then you can tell her. |
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Re: Just whining maybe??
From: buttfoo-ga on 15 Jun 2003 12:16 PDT |
Sounds like some type of dermatitis. Get yourself to a good dermatologist. Also, I would recommend dumping any doctor who does not appear to be taking your concerns seriously. Sometimes, docs don't know, but they should be humble enough to acknowledge this, and not shift the blame to your psychological state. |
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