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Subject: Capture data on floppies to transfer to anothe computer
Category: Computers > Software
Asked by: superroy-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 26 Apr 2003 07:21 PDT
Expires: 26 May 2003 07:21 PDT
Question ID: 195733
I have two computers, one in Phoenix and the other up in the mountain.
 I have an extended Windows 98 Address Book on rhe PHX location and I
want to capture all that data on a floppy so I can put the data in the
computer in the mountains.  I tried the "export" option but when I
checked the floppy all I got was the Address Book window, no data.  I
sure do not want to import into the mountain computer and have it
screw up all the data with blanks.  That would mean a tremendous
typing job to recover.  Does anyone know how to export data to a
floppy and then import it into a different computer with no foul ups?
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Subject: Re: Capture data on floppies to transfer to another computer
Answered By: sublime1-ga on 26 Apr 2003 08:58 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
superroy...

When you say 'extended' address book, it makes me wonder if the
reason the window comes up blank after being copied to the floppy
is because the file was too big to fit on the floppy, or if it
is so large that, loading it from floppy takes a *long* time.

At any rate, you can arrive at some certainty by doing this:

Create a 'dummy' directory in Windows Explorer, just under the
root drive, 'C', and name it 'a'. Its address will be C:\a\.

In the dialog box when you are exporting the address book, 
name it something memorable, like 'addies.wab' and point 
the export to the C:\a\ folder.

When the export is complete, go to Windows Explorer and look
in the 'a' directory you created. You should see 'addies.wab'.

Click on the file to open it, and see if it has your data.

Take note of the file size and whether it will fit on a floppy.
If it is less than 1.4MB, it should fit. Copy and Paste it to
a floppy which has been freshly formatted and verified by 
ScanDisk. Open the file from the floppy. If it is a large file,
it could take *quite a while* for the data to show up in the
window. In fact, depending on your available RAM, your system
may not be able to accommodate opening it from the floppy.

Regardless, if the file on the A drive is the same size as the
one you exported to C:\a\ , it will be fine. When you get to the
mountain, reverse the procedure. Do not import the address book
directly from the floppy. Instead, copy the file from the floppy
to another 'dummy' folder such as C:\a\ , and import it from 
there.

If, when you exported the file to the C:\a\ folder, you found
that it was larger than 1.4MB, you may have to split the file
across two floppies and reassemble it on the mountain computer
using some kind of 'file splitting' software, or you may be
able to compress it by using WinZip to make it into a .zip file.
If this is the case, post a Request for Clarification, and I
will point you to such a program, or assist you with 'zipping'
the file, if you need help with that. Of course, you would 
need to 'unzip' or reassemble the file to its original form
on the mountain computer, so you will need a copy of the 
'file splitting' software or WinZip to install on the mountain
computer when you get there.

If you have any questions regarding any of the steps in
the process described above, please don't hesitate to ask.


Please do not rate this answer until you are satisfied that
the answer cannot be improved upon by means of a dialog
established through the "Request for Clarification" process.

sublime1-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by superroy-ga on 27 Apr 2003 09:51 PDT
sublime1

Thanks for your quick reply.  I have to rely on your expertise
concerning the paragraph where you suggested to "create  a 'dummy'
directory in Windows Explorer......etc".  Guess I am a dummy but I
don't know how to do what you suggest----I clicked on "C", "new",
"folder" and renamed the folder "a" but that did not do the job.  Can
you tell me exactly how to accomplish this task in a step-by-step
manner?  Again thanks

superroy

Clarification of Answer by sublime1-ga on 27 Apr 2003 10:25 PDT
superroy...

Your description of your attempt to create a 'dummy' directory
sounds like it should have worked. While I don't currently have
Windows 98 installed, I seem to recall that Windows Explorer
would not 'refresh' the window right away, thus showing the 
'a' folder you just created. If you go there now, you may now
see the 'a' folder, listed alphabetically under the main C drive
(so it should show up close to the top of the 'tree' of folders,
once you click on the little '+' sign to the left of the C drive).

Please check this and come back here to verify whether you see
the 'a' folder, before I go through a detailed explanation of 
how to do what you may have already accomplished. If the 'a'
folder that you named isn't showing up directly under the C drive,
I would suspect that you did not hit 'Enter' after renaming the 
'New Folder' to 'a'. This would mean that you have an empty folder
named 'New Folder' (also to be found listed alphabetically) under
the C drive. If you want, you can simply rename this 'New Folder'
to 'a', remembering to hit the 'Enter' key after renaming it.
To rename the 'New Folder' folder, just right-click on it and 
select 'rename'.

Let me know where this takes you.

sublime1-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by superroy-ga on 27 Apr 2003 15:19 PDT
I was able to create the dummy C:\a\.  However, when used the "export"
option in the Address Book I got the same blank window except now it
is named C:\a\addies.wab. (I even used your suggestion of addies, just
for fun).

Now I have to figure out why the data does not export ????
I will keep you posted.

superroy

Clarification of Answer by sublime1-ga on 27 Apr 2003 15:39 PDT
superroy...

How strange! After you export the file to the C:\a\ folder,
how big is the file size when you look in that folder?

You'll need to have Windows Explorer set to 'View --> details'
from the menubar at the top of Explorer.

Also, by default, when I click on a .wab file, the Address
Book program opens with a selection window on the left and
with 'Shared Contacts' highlighted. This shows no addresses
in the right-hand window, and I must click on the sub-folder
in the left-hand box which is titled 'Main Identity's Contacts'.
Only when I do this will there be addresses shown in the 
right-hand window.

Hope that helps...

sublime1-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by superroy-ga on 28 Apr 2003 08:32 PDT
sublime1

Looking into the folder I find the size is 305KB---I have to assume
that is the same size as the my Address Book since I don't know, or
how to get, the size. However, following your information the
addresses do show up when I click on the 'Main Identity's Contacts'
and they seem to be all there.

Seems we have got this far, now I have to follow the rest of your
instructions to see if I can get the data to a floppy.  Will keep you
posted.

Guess I am a worrier but, if and when, I do get the data on a floppy
and import it into the second computer will it totally replace the
data that I already there??  Hope so !!

Sure do appreciate your help---thanks 

superroy

Clarification of Answer by sublime1-ga on 28 Apr 2003 16:21 PDT
superroy...

I'm glad it's working out so far. As far as the new file
'replacing' the old one, I don't think it will do that
automatically. When you 'import' the new file, I believe
it will 'add' the current data to the data presently in
the mountain address book - which may be a good thing,
but is likely to leave you with double entries to delete.
At least that's what happens when you 'import' emails.

If you'd rather actually replace the file, you could just
delete the old address book from its location on the 
mountain computer (or move it to a 'dummy' directory for
safekeeping, if you want). You would delete/move the file 
while your email program and address book are shut down.

The default directory for the address book will likely
depend on your Operating System and Email Program, but 
the default for Windows 2000 and Outlook Express is:
C:\Documents and Settings\UserName\Application Data\
Microsoft\Address Book.

If your system is different, you can just do a 'search'
of the C directory for *.wab and you'll find it.

Once you've deleted it, or moved it, you can then open
your email program and import the new one from whatever
'dummy' directory you copied it to from the floppy.

That should do it for you, but do keep me posted.

Regards...

sublime1-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by superroy-ga on 28 Apr 2003 21:45 PDT
sublime1

Well I found a BACKUP ADDRESS BOOK when I did the search *.wab as you
suggested.  So rather take the risk of fooling around with the
original Address Book I deleted all the entries in that BACKUP file
and imported ADDIES into the BACKUP.  It looks like it is an exact
copy except for one little thing----
     the ORIGINAL ADDRESS BOOK was 305KB
     the ADDIES  was 304 as exported from the original
     the BACKUP WAS 389KB after I imported ADDIES into it
     and the ADDIES had 540KB after I IMported it into the BACKUP !!!

I don't have any idea why the sizes are so different---got any
ideas???

I also exported ADDIES to a floppy so now I can carry the floppy to
the mountains.  Up there I will either move the ORIGINAL ADDRESS BOOK
(don'T know has this is done) or delete all of the ORIGINAL and the
export ADDIES into it.

Sure thank you for your patience and for sharing you expertise with
me.   I will rate this *****.

superroy

Clarification of Answer by sublime1-ga on 28 Apr 2003 23:39 PDT
superroy...

Thanks for the great rating.

I've seen the same phenomena with file-size differences.
My take on this is that, if you open one of these files
in a plain old text editor, there are huge gaps between
data, filled with blank spaces. These files actually get
'fragmented' something like your hard drive does, with 
spaces between data, since, like your hard drive, data
is being written to them and deleted from them all the
time. This is nothing to worry about.

As for "Up there I will either move the ORIGINAL ADDRESS
BOOK (don'T know has this is done)...", just locate the
current file with a search, if it's not in the location
I gave you for Windows 2000:
C:\Documents and Settings\UserName\Application Data\ 
Microsoft\Address Book
and right-click it, selecting 'cut', then right-click on
a dummy directory you've created, like C:\a\, and 
select 'paste'. Do this with your email program shut down.
This will move the old .wab file to the 'a' folder.

Once you've moved it, you can then open your email program
and import addies.wab from whatever 'dummy' directory you
copied it to from the floppy.

Regards...

sublime1-ga
superroy-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars
GOOD ANSWER AND SUBLIME1 STUCK WITH ME WITH QUICK REPLIES ---THANKS

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