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Subject: Federal Trade School Classifications and Legislation
Category: Reference, Education and News > Teaching and Research
Asked by: highvoltageblond-ga
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Posted: 02 May 2003 10:55 PDT
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Question ID: 198463
Question: "What are the Federal trade school classifications?" 


CLARIFICATIONS:
1) PLEASE PROVIDE A SUMMARY AND THE LINK 
2) I AM MOST INTERESTED IN TRADE SCHOOLS THAT PERTAIN TO ANY TYPE OF
ENTERTAINMENT, THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY, PHOTOGRAPHY, THE ARTS (IN
GENERAL), WRITING, MUSIC, RECORDING, BEAUTY & COSMETOLOGY, AND
FASHION.
3) THIS QUESTION IS ONE OF A GROUP OF SIX QUESTIONS ON THE SAME TOPIC.
BELOW IS THE GROUP OF QUESTIONS:

1)  What are the Federal trade school classifications? 
2)  What Federal funds are available to students who enroll (in a
trade school) to learn a qualified, classified skill?
3) What are the specific requirements that must be meet (by a trade
school) in order for it's students to access federal funds.
4) What is the list of federally qualified, as classified, trade
school skills?
5) What federal legislation exists currently related to trade schools,
trade school funding and trade school classifications?
6) Who wrote, introduced and/or sponsored, the most resent trade
school related federal legislation?

Request for Question Clarification by pinkfreud-ga on 02 May 2003 11:15 PDT
I'd like to help answer your question "What are the Federal trade
school classifications?", but can you clarify specifically what you
mean by "classifications" in this context?

Request for Question Clarification by pinkfreud-ga on 02 May 2003 11:31 PDT
Are you wanting a list of the federal NAICS titles and codes for
different types of trade schools?

Clarification of Question by highvoltageblond-ga on 02 May 2003 11:38 PDT
Yes, but more than that.... I need to know which ones (specifically)
are those that allow trade school students to recieve Federal Funds
that will pay for their  tuition.

Thanks!

Clarification of Question by highvoltageblond-ga on 02 May 2003 11:40 PDT
What I should say is that if they are not calssified as qualified to
recieve Federal Funds -- they are not the ones I need or want.

Thanks again!

Request for Question Clarification by pinkfreud-ga on 02 May 2003 11:45 PDT
I'm sorry to be asking so many questions, but I want to be certain I
know what you need. Are you looking for a list of all trade schools
that are eligible for federal financial assistance (funding which goes
to the school), or all trade schools that qualify for federal student
loans, or something else?

Clarification of Question by highvoltageblond-ga on 02 May 2003 13:16 PDT
I am opening a "hands-on" Filmmaking School and would like it to be
classified as a type of trade school so that my students will qualify
to recieve Federal Funds.

To do that, I must first know the types of trade schools (and some
actual examples) whose students  currently qualify for (and receive)
Federal Funds.

My goal is to get my school equally qualified (under some Federal
Classification) so my students will be eligible for Federal Funds.

Therefore, I must know what the requirements are of any/all related
trade schools who have  successfully acquired a "Federal
Classification"  that has allowed their students to qualify for
Federal funding, grants and loans.

Currently a "hands-on Filmmaking School" does not qualify under any of
the current Federal Classifications that would allow for Federal
Funding.

My goal is to change that.

Does my long winded answer help???

Request for Question Clarification by umiat-ga on 02 May 2003 18:41 PDT
Hello, highvoltageblonde,

 I currently have your question locked, and am working on an answer.
In the meanwhile, however, I see that your same clarification request
has been posted on several other questions that have been answered.
Please advise me about whether you need something more specific, at
this point. Otherwise, I will try to proceed with some helpful
information.

umiat

Clarification of Question by highvoltageblond-ga on 02 May 2003 19:53 PDT
Actually, I do need something more specific, though I'm not sure
exacty what that is yet.... I haven't caught up with all the Q & A
reading yet.  Sorry.

If you've read everything posted by the other researchers already,
you're ahead of me..... That being the case, if you understand what
I'm trying to accomplish -- perhaps you have a suggestion?

If not, I'm going to have to delay a little while so until I can
assess where everything/everyone is....

Thanks for your patience.
Answer  
Subject: Re: Federal Trade School Classifications and Legislation
Answered By: umiat-ga on 02 May 2003 21:36 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Hello, highvoltageblond-ga!


 Okay! Let's see if I can fill in some blanks by answering two
components of your question that don't seem to have been answered yet.


Your initial question was - What are the Federal trade school
classifications?"


You then clarified further by stating:


"I am opening a "hands-on" Filmmaking School and would like it to be
classified as a type of trade school so that my students will qualify
to recieve Federal Funds. To do that, I must first know the types of
trade schools (and some actual examples) whose students  currently
qualify for (and receive) Federal Funds."
  

Therefore, I am going to center on these two question components,
since they don't appear to have been answered as of yet!
 

==============



You may see the entire list of "2002 NAICS Definitions:611 Educational
Services on the at the US Census Bureau website:
http://www.census.gov/epcd/naics02/def/NDEF611.HTM#N6115


Scroll down until you get to the Technical and Trade School Section.


All Technical and Trade Schools come under the NAICS number 6115!.
*****************************************************************


Under the number 6115, there are various subsets listing categories of
technical and trade schools, with various types of schools listed
within each numbered category. The categories are as follows:


   611511 Cosmetology and Barber Schools 
   611512 Flight Training
   611513 Apprenticeship Training 
   611519 Other Technical and Trade Schools 


Upon looking at the NAICS codes for trade schools, there are no
Filmmaking schools listed. However, there is a bright side to all of
this in that there seems to be a loophole:

"Establishments primarily engaged in offering courses in commercial
and graphic arts and commercial photography are classified in U.S.
Industry 611519, Other Technical and Trade Schools."
 
===


 While I only found one trade school offering filmmaking that was
officially listed on the Tradeschool.org website, it was actually
hidden in obscurity beneath the Media Section, under two headings -
"Photography" and "Video Production."
http://www.trade-school.org/

===

Brooks Institute of Photography is the only filmmaking school that was
listed on the tradeschool.org site, and it DOES offer Federal
Financial Aid!

 			********

I can only conclude that since the school offers both photography and
video production as well as filmmaking, it is able to fall under the
NAICS code 611519 classification of "Establishments primarily engaged
in offering courses in commercial and graphic arts and commercial
photography)

			********

Therefore, that might be the biggest catch in trying to get your
filmmaking school students to qualify for federal financial aid! You
may have to offer one of the other components under the NAICS code
(like photography) to allow the school to become eligible for
Financial Aid.

===

Brooks Institute of Photography
http://www.trade-school.org/film-schools-brooks/

"Brooks' comprehensive Film and Video curricula offer hands-on study
of professional filmmaking and production techniques, everything from
proposals and budgeting to scripting, directing and editing. The
facility is located on approximately 8 acres, occupying about 70,000
square feet of work-space. Formerly a motion picture studio, the
campus is complete with a back lot and fully equipped sound stages,
one of which is 27,000 square feet.
Teamwork is essential to film production, students share
responsibilities as cinematographers, lighting and sound technicians,
scriptwriters, and editors to complete a professional-quality project.
Each student's portfolio production is treated as a real work
situation, in which the student forms a production company and
contracts to deliver the film.

Degree programs in still photography, motion picture/video, visual
journalism, and visual communications.
Internship / Job Placement Assistance 
Associate's Degree programs that can be completed in as little as
eighteen months.
Financial aid for those who qualify.  


Official College Website
http://www.brooks.edu/

Motion Picture and Video Program:
http://www.brooks.edu/mpvideo.asp

Federal Financial Aid Information via video
http://fa-online.careered.com/?stu_campus=52
http://fa-online.careered.com/media/index.asp?strVideo=loans.asx

(The "loan" portion goes over loan limits from the federal government)


===


The following school offers financial aid, but I don't think it
officially qualifies as a "trade school." I could be wrong, however.

Academy of Art College - School of Motion Pictures and Television
http://www.academyart.edu/mpt/mpt_outline.asp?DT=AA&Major=Cinematography

Federal Financial Aid Information
http://www.academyart.edu/finaid/home.asp
"Low-interest Federal student loans are also available to eligible
students, regardless of need."
 

====


Two other filmmaking trade schools I located:

The New York Film Academy
http://www.nyfa.com/ 

 and 

The Motion Picture Institue of Michigan
http://www.mpifilm.com/ 

clearly do not offer any Federal Financial Aid.
 

======


Just for interest:

Some film school links can be found at
http://www.liquidgeneration.com/guide/filmmaking_filmschools.html


=======


You stated in your clarification:


 "Currently a "hands-on Filmmaking School" does not qualify under any
of
the current Federal Classifications that would allow for Federal
Funding.
My goal is to change that!" 

===


 I truly hope I have been able to provide some information about the
NAICS code that may, in fact, help you to figure out how you can
implement some type of change that might allow you to qualify for
Federal Funding! It my be a possibility if you add a video or
photography component to your courses.


 If I can offer any other information, please let me know. I am not an
expert in this field, by any means, but I will try my best.


umiat-ga
 
Google Search Strategy
filmmaking trade school
NAICS federal trade school classifications

Request for Answer Clarification by highvoltageblond-ga on 03 May 2003 10:14 PDT
Thanks for taking the iniative in an effort to figure out what I was
missing!

My school will be located in Hawaii, thus specific HI related
information  related to the rules that permit vocational schools that
are *not accredited* to participate in financial aid programs if they
are otherwise certified by a state education department or similar
body.

Thanks!

Clarification of Answer by umiat-ga on 03 May 2003 17:01 PDT
highvoltageblond,

 I see that you posted the same clarification request for larre-ga and
pafalafa-ga, which they have answered. Rather than repeat their
efforts and post the same information, is there anything further that
I can do for you?

 Look up any other types of schools, etc? 

umiat

Request for Answer Clarification by highvoltageblond-ga on 03 May 2003 18:53 PDT
Hmmm....Perhaps you would be able to tell me if there are currently
any trade schools in Hawaii that are qualified and whose students are
eligible to recieve Federal Funds?

Clarification of Answer by umiat-ga on 04 May 2003 00:01 PDT
Hi, highvoltageblond! 


I looked around a bit to see what trade/vocational schools are
available in Hawaii which offer Federal financial aid.


Before I get to those, however, I want to point you to a film
institute on Maui that mentions the possibility of financial aid from
the Veteran's Administrations or Work Force Development Agencies.
These may provide other sources of financial aid for your students
that you might want to investigate.


The Hawaian Film Makers Initiative and the Maui Film Institute
***************************************************************
http://www.hawaiifilmmakers.org/about.html

The Hawaii Filmmakers Initiative (HFI) is an organization dedicated to
nurturing Hawaii's independent filmmakers by providing quality
education, training, marketing and financing opportunities in the area
of cinema and digital arts.

HFI's mission is to provide Hawaii residents with in-depth programs
that focus on key elements of training and mentoring.

HFI will offer marketing support and networking opportunities to
ensure that Hawaii's filmmakers achieve artistic, creative and
financial success.

HFI will explore partnering with government, Hawaii and Los Angeles
based institutions and organizations, to create a film fund for
independent productions that are Hawaii based.

Through strategic alliances with both Hawaii and Hollywood
organizations and individuals, it is our goal to create a viable
industry that supports all the cinematic arts in Hawaii.
 
==

Maui Film Institute
http://www.hawaiifilmmakers.org/mfi.html

"The Hawaii Filmmakers Initiative has started an educational component
to its programming, the Maui Film Institute."

Course Listings:
http://www.hawaiifilmmakers.org/courses.html

Financial Aid:
http://www.hawaiifilmmakers.org/fees.html

"Contact the agencies in your region for further assistance. Veterans
Administration, any Work Force Development agencies may likely support
this kind of training."


=======================


The Veterans Administration website lists their Educational Assistance
programs at
http://www.gibill.va.gov/education/benefits.htm

Please note that offspring of disabled or deceased veterans are
eligible for assistance, as are those discharged from the military
that might be interested in a new career in filmmaking!!

The Montgomery GI Bill, Veterans Educational Assistance Program and
Survivors' and Dependents' Educational Assistance Program are some
examples. Each have links on the page so you can read more about them.


====


Trade Schools in Hawaii offering Federal Financial Aid
********************************************************


University of Pheonix - Hawaii
http://www.pacificcoastcolleges.us/vocational-school-hawaii.html

Offers Federal Financial Aid to qualified students
http://www.phoenix.edu/fedfinaid.asp

"The University of Phoenix participates in Federal Aid Programs
offering the Federal Stafford Student Loans, Federal PLUS loans, and
Federal Pell Grants."


====


Education America - Hawaii
http://www.educationamerica.com/

Federal Financial Aid available in the form of Plus loans
http://www.educationamerica.com/eai_00/pages/finaids/finwest.htm

"PLUS Loans enable parents with good credit histories to borrow to pay
the education expenses of each child who is a dependent undergraduate
student enrolled at least half time. PLUS Loans are available through
both the Direct Loan and FFEL (Federal Family Education Loan)
programs. Most of the benefits to parent borrowers are identical in
the two programs. For more information on these loan programs, contact
the school of your choice."


===

I have not included any online trade schools that offer federal
financial aid, since they are very different from the local, hands-on
approach you desire to offer in your Film Institute.


The two colleges listed above are the only two I could find in Hawaii
that have a trade school category listing, have an actual campus, and
offer Federal Financial Aid.


umiat-ga

Google Search
+film schools +Hawaii
veterans administration
+Hawaii +trade schools
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