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Q: YEAST ( Answered 4 out of 5 stars,   1 Comment )
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Subject: YEAST
Category: Science
Asked by: liser10-ga
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Posted: 04 May 2003 13:25 PDT
Expires: 03 Jun 2003 13:25 PDT
Question ID: 199301
WHAT IS THE EFFECT IF YOU DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF YEAST IN A BREAD RECIPE

Request for Question Clarification by justaskscott-ga on 04 May 2003 13:44 PDT
My sense from some preliminary research is that it depends on the
recipe / what you are trying to make.  Could you post the recipe for
which you might want to double the amount of yeast?

Clarification of Question by liser10-ga on 04 May 2003 14:07 PDT
IT COULD BE FOR ANY BREAD RECIPE, BUT I'LL BE USING A BREAD MACHINE
MIX,COUNTRY WHITE, BUT I'LL BE BAKING IN AN OVEN. IT COMES WITH A
YEAST PACKET, WHICH I WOULD DOUBLE THE AMOUNT
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Subject: Re: YEAST
Answered By: tehuti-ga on 04 May 2003 17:48 PDT
Rated:4 out of 5 stars
 
Hello liser10-ga

Using the correct quantity of  yeast is generally considered to be a
crucial part of bread-making, whether or not a machine is used. I must
admit that I’m a but puzzled as to why you wish to double to quantity
given in your recipe.

Too much yeast in the recipe will result in one or more of the
following, as described in “Bread Machine Baking: Troubleshooting Tip”
at Allrecipes.com
The bread can cave in on top and at the sides, because it rises too
fast and does not have enough gluten to support it
The bread remains raw on top: “Too much yeast made the bread rise so
high that it hit the top [of the bread machine]. This prevented the
hot air from circulating over the bread.”
The bread is full of holes, and/or the texture is coarse.
http://www.allrecipes.com/cb/kh/bread/troubleshoot/default.asp

Having the bread collapse because of using too much yeast (and/or too
much water) is the most common problem experienced by new breadmakers,
according to the newsletter of Carrs Flour Mills
http://www.breadflour.co.uk/newsletter/page3.html

” Too much yeast gives an increase of volume in the bread and a more
crumbly loaf with an inferior flavor.”  “Bread Hints” at Free Recipe
Org
http://www.freerecipe.org/Old_Fashioned_Advice/About_Bread-Making/BreadHints_bcaag.htm

Even if the bread does not stay raw on top, as mentioned above, it can
rise too far and mushroom over the top of the pan, thus spoiling the
shape of the loaf:
Mushroom-top bread and coarse, holey bread resulting from too much
yeast (or from some other factors) are illustrated in Bread Machine
Digest 2002:
http://www.breadmachinedigest.com/troubleshooting_and_tips_chart.html

According to a forum discussion on Chef2Chef, the following problem
was also due to too much yeast: “When I make loaves of bread 75% of
them "explode" ( like a large stretch mark) out on one side during the
baking process.”
The person who had this problem cited the following recipe:
“3 1/2 cups warm water, 1/2 cup oil, 1/4 cup sugar, 1 tablespoon salt,
1 1/2 tablespoon yeast,
7 1/2 - 8 cups all purpose flour”
Those commenting were of the opinion:
“As far as I can see you might have to much yeast, 1 1/2 TBS. is a
lot. 2 1/4 teaspoons will leaven 6 to 8 cups of flour slowly.”
“QW is quite right. There is too much yeast for the amount of flour.
You shouldn't need more than 1-1/2 teaspoons for that amount of
flour.”
“Aye, too much yeast-- 1 1/2 tsp. should do it. I remember in
Elizabeth Davids book on breads she describes a rising process where
an tiny amount of yeast was used with a great amount of flour and
included an overnite cool rise, made produced beautiful fine textured
loaves.”
And the outcome: “I think it may have been too much yeast, but also my
rolling technique. Changed both and they come out fine.”
http://chef2chef.info/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Board=general&Number=1961

According to the UK Flour Advisory Bureau, using too much yeast will
also cause the bread to become stale very quickly
http://www.fabflour.co.uk/News_toptips.asp

And of course, there is always the matter of taste: “When making
homemade or bread machine bread, if your bread has a strong yeasty
aroma you may have added too much yeast to the recipe.”
Baking Tips from the Un-Chef
http://un-chef.justreward.net/Content/Tips_DB/Baking.html

Finally, here is Tim Belford on his experience of eating bread made
with too much yeast: “Too much yeast had the opposite effect. The
result was bread that was as light and fluffy as a summer breeze.
It also turned to fine, grainy crumbs when I sliced it.  When I tried
to spread a little peanut butter on it I ended up with something the
consistency of a rice crispy square.”
Log Cabin Chronicles
http://www.tomifobia.com/belford/bread_baking.shtml

Incidentally, “most machines are programmed to use active dry yeast.
Consult the manual if using a different kind of yeast. Cake or
compressed yeast is not recommended. Both quick and regular dry yeasts
may be used as directed by the manual.”
From tips on using a bread machine at the Grains Nutrition Information
Center
http://www.wheatfoods.org/grain_info/breadmach.html

Request for Answer Clarification by liser10-ga on 04 May 2003 18:33 PDT
THE DOUBLING OF THE YEAST WAS FOR AN EXPERIMENT  THANKS FOR THE INFO
liser10-ga rated this answer:4 out of 5 stars

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Subject: Re: YEAST
From: pinkfreud-ga on 04 May 2003 13:35 PDT
 
I don't know if this applies to all bread recipes, but I once
misfollowed a recipe that called for three teaspoons of yeast (I used
three tablespoons.) The bread rose way fast, and after it came out of
the oven it was huge and full of holes, and it tasted like beer. I
crumbled it up, put it on the patio, and gave the birds and squirrels
a feast. They loved it.

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