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Subject: Legitimate company?
Category: Reference, Education and News
Asked by: nosey76-ga
List Price: $2.50
Posted: 05 May 2003 09:59 PDT
Expires: 04 Jun 2003 09:59 PDT
Question ID: 199658
Verify authenticity and reputation of N.Y. Vacation Travelers  of
Kingston, Pa.  before I send them $2000.!!!!!!

Request for Question Clarification by rainbow-ga on 05 May 2003 11:01 PDT
Hi nosey76,
Are you certain the name of the company is "N.Y. Vacation Travelers"?
I have located a company called "New York City Vacation Packages"?
Could this possibly be the one you are inquiring about?
Thanks.
rainbow-ga
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Subject: Re: Legitimate company?
Answered By: tutuzdad-ga on 07 May 2003 09:41 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Dear nosey76-ga;

Thank you for allowing me an opportunity to answer your interesting
question.

NYCVP.COM is registered to Tenenbaum's Travel – more commonly known as
TENENBAUM'S VACATION STORES, INC. (http://www.tenenbaums.com/DynList/)
which appears to have no derogatory history with the Better Business
Bureau. Barry Tenenbaum is the company president and they have been in
business since January 1983.

They apparently specialize in vacations/trips to New York and on brand
named cruise ships. As you mentioned, their address is 300 Market
Street, Kingston, PA, 18704. The “NY City Vacation Package” is a
current offering, not the name of the business. They may be
identifying themselves TO YOU as “NY City Vacations” merely as a
temporary promotion in order to distinguish a particular vacation
package offering in much the same way that a company might say “…for
more information write to ‘Discount Offer’ 100 Main Street….” while
their actual business name is Generic Travel Agency.

If you are still in doubt, you can check with the Pennsylvania
Attorney General and see if they have any other records related to
questionable business practices. I cannot vouch for them myself of
course, but armed with this information I, personally, would probably
feel as safe doing business with this company as any other with a
similar record.

I hope you find that that my research exceeds your expectations. If
you have any questions about my research please post a clarification
request prior to rating the answer. I welcome your rating and your
final comments and I look forward to working with you again in the
near future. Thank you for bringing your question to us.

Best regards;
Tutuzdad-ga

INFORMATION SOURCES

TENENBAUM'S VACATION STORES, INC. 
http://www.tenenbaums.com/DynList/

BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU
http://www.scranton.bbb.org/common.html?location=/home/common/www/bindr/report.php&bureau=nepa&compid=10013192

MIKE FISHER – PA ATTORNEY GENERAL’S OFFICE
http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/


SEARCH STRATEGY


SEARCH ENGINE USED:

Google ://www.google.com


SEARCH TERMS USED:

NYCVP.COM

TENENBAUM'S TRAVEL

BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU
nosey76-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $10.00
THANKS FOR A FAVORABLE RATING AND HELPING INSURE A GOOD TRIP FOR US.
GOOGLE HAS NEVER FAILED ME!!!

Comments  
Subject: Re: Legitimate company?
From: pinkfreud-ga on 05 May 2003 16:10 PDT
 
I have found no evidence that this company exists. If I were
considering sending money to them, I'd consider that a very bad sign.
Subject: Re: Legitimate company?
From: nosey76-ga on 07 May 2003 09:14 PDT
 
Sorry for delay - was out of town 2 nites.  I first heard of NY
Vacation Planners thru an ad on travel in our newspaper.  They gave
the E mail address as NYCVP.com.  I responded - it sounded good, could
get exactly what we wanted, the times we wanted - 2 nites at Edison
Hotel, 2 plays, 1 tour, travel to and from NY from Mobile, Al.;
transportation to and from airport, etc. for $2038.  I refuse to risk
being scammed and had no data so I asked for mailing address, phone
no. and references.  Got immediate response:  NY City Vacation
Packages, 300 Market St.; Kingston, Pa. 18704.  Ph. 1-888-692=8701. 
They offered no references.  I had tried checking on line to BBB, etc.
and found nothing.  Now I find their address is Kingston, Pa.  I did
call hotel and they said they had worked with this group???  My
subsequent E mails have been <debbie@nycvp.com>
I love google and was thrilled to find you offered this service.  Will
be happy to pay another fee if you have any other way to check.  Now I
definitely feel I won't send money unless you can vouch for them. 
Thanks.  Phyllis Ramm
Subject: Re: Legitimate company?
From: nosey76-ga on 02 Jun 2003 14:45 PDT
 
Hi all,
Sat. a.m.   We got home yesterday afternoon about 4:00 after a fabulous,
tiring 3 day trip to New York.  This may not sound nice, but for once in
my life I did a wonderful job of planning all we could squeeze in
considering our ages, tastes, etc.  Could not have done it without
debbit@nycvp.com and answers-support@google.com.
I read about nycvp in he travel section of our local newsopapers (they
were the ones to contact about one of the advertised trips).  We also had
recommendations from friend, Moe, who had been there.
Left Mobile at 7:00 a.m. on Tuesday, 29th - arrived at LaGuardia - picked
up our luggage & contacted travel desk for them to call for pre-arranged
transportation to hotel Edison, arriving there about 1:00 p.m.  After
checking in, we hailed a cab to Central Park and took a carriage ride
around the park. (this we did on our own).  It was fantastic, huge.  such
a peaceful restful place tho there was a lake where ice skating was done
during the winter; other lakes; famous zoo; stages for plays, etc., etc.,
etc.  Many famous people live/lived in areas across from the park - Jackie
Kennedy = John Lenon was shot there to name a couple.

We ate at an Irish pub we passed - the food was excellent and portions
were too huge!! Then we returned to our hotel, relaxed a short bit and got
dressed for the play Rent that evening.  It was excellent.  We got back to
the hotel about 11:00 p.m. and fell into bed!!
Had to get up early as we had a comprehensive, narrated tour of NY booked
for 8:45 the next morning.  This was by Greyline - I will try and recall
most of what it encompassed - actually - I've copied & pasted the ad for
this tour.  Here 'tis:
Manhattan Comprehensive  Accompanied by a professional tour guide, see all
of Manhattan from Uptown to Downtown - the new Times Square, the Empire
State Building, Madison Square Garden, the Flatiron Building, Greenwich
Village, SoHo, Little Italy and Battery Park, where you will board a ferry
on a one-hour cruise with close-up views of the Statue of Liberty / Ellis
Island and Brooklyn Bridge. Resume tour at Battery Park driving up to
Central Park, the Cathedral St. John the Divine, Grant's Tomb, Harlem, the
Museum Mile, Fifth Avenue, Rockefeller Center and more. Includes lunch,
ferry ticket and admission to Empire State Building Observation Deck.
Daily at 9am except holidays.  
 ** nycVP Highly Recommended ** 

Actually, on this day the Empire State Building was substituted with tour
of United Nations Building.  On the way to the ferry, we passed near
Ground Zero of 9/11 - impressive.  We couldn't go on the Statue of Liberty
- it's been closed to the public for some time, but we were "right there"
- we did get off the ferry and tour Ellis Island.  It was interesting.  I
had studied that so much doing genealogy, it was interesting actually
being there.  When we toured the UN - it was our last "off the bus" tour,
we were so tired, we were tempted to sit it out.  Glad we didn't.  We were
divided into groups of 14 for guided tour - our guide was from Guyana -
fantastically good, she spoke 6 languages.  We were in several "chambers"
and had opportunity to sit while she made explanations, entertained
questions, etc.  It was fantastic.  We passed St. Patrick's cathedral
where the Kennedys were married and several other impressive, huge, ornate
churches.  We did not return from our tour until 6:30 - spent!!  We ate in
the hotel dining room, which proved to be an excellent choice - it was
always crowded, owned by two 70+ year old Polish brothers, one of whom was
ALWAYS there!!  The food was ethnic, very good, huge portions, and
reasonably priced.  We had breakfast there the following morning!

Besides the airplane tickets, hotel accomodations,  transportation to and
from the hotel, tour, and 2 plays, NYCVP also included in the package 3
additional coupons - one for a choice of 2 walking tours if we were there
on Sat. (which we were not & happy not to have to walk,ha); one for a
choice of Natural History Museum or Museum of Modern art; and choice of
Rockefeller Center or Empire State Observatory.  After breakfast on Thurs.
we took a cab to the History Museum (Charlie's choice - see how good I am
to him) - it was 4 stories - numerous rooms on each floor - and I do
believe it covered everything that transpired since the beginning of
time!!!!  We then took a cab to the Empire State Building (chose that as
it seemed the least tiring) - had a light late lunch in a food center
there - then took elevators to the (2) to the Observatory.  It was
fantastic.  We took some pictures (several places) - haven't put them in
the computer yet - hope they're OK, photographers we're not!!!!) - then
took a cab to a music store near our hotel as we wanted to get Andy a
birthday present (see, you thought we forgot!!!) - we had already picked
up a few souveniers - then went in at Maxie's (a kinda famous NY cafe),
which was very near and ordered a coupe of appetizers to share (only bad
thing, we were always too tired to be very hungry) and a drink and they
were very good - had Maryland crab cakes and calamari, yummmmm. 

Then that evening - our last, we went to our other show --- I maybe
shouldn't share this, but can't resist.  I was so careful to make all our
selections - Rent was a fairly recent one which was a hit and "Take Me our
to the Ballgame" I thought was a take off from the clean cut old song - or
the song was peculiar to the play or whatever - anyhow I figured it was a
good old "all American" which had been around for ages!!!  Did I forever
get fooled.  If it wasn't actually Porno - it was about as close as you
could get, I think - as bad as I claim to be, I'm no expert on that!!! 
AAnyhow, I hope no one I've bragged to about the shows we were seeing knew
what it really was!!!!!

So, that was it.  We called for transportation to the airport for 9:25
a.m. flight - they picked us up at 6:45 - takes longer to get to flying
now!!!  But it's worth it!!!  That whole trip which included everything
except food, taxis, Central Park ride and shopping was included in one
price which we felt was a good price (better than the one we planned which
was cancelled after 9/11 and included more).

NYCVP really puts together an excellent package.  Another thing----- once
everything was settled on andd time came to book - they wanted our credit
card number - a natural thing = except I thought "I don't know anything
about them, dare I???? = so I called NYBBB and Chamber of Commerce,
neither of which had ever heard of them!!!  I called the hotel and they
verified that they had done business with them, but I was still nervous
about it.  So I got in touch with GOOGLE, the best computer search engine
I know of - lo and behold, they have a service for that for almost nothing
- I think $2.00 to join and $1.50 for each search or something like that. 
They could find nothing, so I E mailed Debbie at NYCVP and asked for
address and phone no. --- Lo it was in Pennsylvania!  I sent that to
GOOGLE and they came back and said they felt it was safe, so off we
went!!!

If it weren't for NYCVP and GOOGLE we'd have missed the trip of a life
time !!!!!  Thanks to them.

Regards to all. ---- Excuse the small print, I lost my Font when I did the
copy and paste and couldn't get it back!!!!
Subject: Re: Legitimate company?
From: tutuzdad-ga on 02 Jun 2003 16:40 PDT
 
Dear nosey76-ga:

Thank you very much for your generous tip. I am absolutely THRILLED
that you had such a wonderful time and that everything worked out for
you better than planned. What thrills me even more is that you came
back to share your experience with us. It isn't often that we get this
kind of personal follow-up on an answered question. This is exactly
this type of positive feedback that makes it all worth the effort. In
fact, it exceeds any number of stars that could possibley be given in
a customer rating alone. We've enjoyed working for you and look
forward to serving you and your friends again in the very near future.

Good luck in all your future adventures.

Regards;
tutuzdad-ga

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