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Subject: is this even possible?do you know?
Category: Health > Medicine
Asked by: jd415-ga
List Price: $50.00
Posted: 05 May 2003 11:43 PDT
Expires: 04 Jun 2003 11:43 PDT
Question ID: 199721
let's say for instance,if an addict used methanphetimine today,how
would he/she pass a drug test tomorrow? what would he/she have to take
internaly? please no"headshop"miracle drinks! the test is conducted
through dept.of corrections,as opposed to a corporate appointed
testing facility which monitors urine tempuature.Are
herbs,otherdrugs,vitamins..............??????????that can,with no
doubt,definitely turn over a negative urinanalysis??

Clarification of Question by jd415-ga on 05 May 2003 12:33 PDT
here we go ,an employee of mine,a cousin,is on probation and gets
tested every month for drug use.not once turned a positive result.
great! however,i do know my cousin.the day/s prior to testing i
absolutely positive there has been use of methamphetamine,no
sleep,funny talking,paranoia etc.i need to know if he's
somehow ingesting something to beat his test and confront him with
facts,or let him go on the grounds of suspicion,which i will never be
able face certain close family members come holiday time.i'm looking
out for both our interest,my business his well-being..or continue
feeling like i'm being taken for the fool!
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Subject: Re: is this even possible?do you know?
Answered By: journalist-ga on 05 May 2003 13:27 PDT
 
Greetings JD415:

The duration of detection for methamphetamine in urine is 48 or more
hours.  The half-life is shorter however: "In humans, the half-life of
methamphetamine ranges from 10-20 hours, depending on the urine pH
(half-life is shorter in acidic urine), history of recent use, and
dosage."
From http://www.emedicine.com/EMERG/topic859.htm.  

From another site at
http://www.inchem.org/documents/pims/pharm/pim334.htm#DivisionTitle:8.3.1.2
 Urine:

"Under normal conditions, about 30% of amphetamine is excreted
unchanged in the urine but this excretion is highly variable and is
dependent on urinary pH. When the urinary pH is acidic (pH 5.5 to
6.0), elimination is predominantly by  urinary excretion with
approximately 60% of a dose of amphetamine being excreted unchanged by
the kidney within 48 hours."

************ 

"The effects of Methamphetamine generally last 2-4 hours and the drug
has a half-life of 9-24 hours in the body. Methamphetamine is excreted
in the urine primarily as amphetamine and oxidized and deaminated
derivatives. However, 10-20% of Methamphetamine is excreted unchanged.
Thus, the presence of the parent compound in the urine indicates
Methamphetamine use. Methamphetamine is generally detectable in the
urine for 3-5 days, depending on urine pH level."
From http://www.testsymptomsathome.com/aco41.asp

Also, the site at http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/testing/testing_info1.shtml#duration
states this duration chart for Methamphetamine:

3-5 days in urine
up to 90 days in hair
1-3 days in blood

CrystalRecovery.com at
http://www.crystalrecovery.com/index.html?=FAQ.html states in its
pages that the duration of the drug in urine is 48 to 72 hrs after
use.

***********

On a message board at
http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:GKvY_LJtDNMC:www.overgrow.com/edge/showthread/t-207974.html+methamphetamine+24+hours+out+of+system&hl=en&start=1&ie=UTF-8
a comment states: "This is because meth is water soluable, THC on the
other hand is not. Expect a single dosage of meth to remain detectable
for 24 hours. Multiple dosages 3-4 days, with habitual use around a
week or even more."  This is, however, an unsubstantiated claim as the
writer gives no reference to how he/she knows and offers no links to
back up the claim.

An About.com site referenced drinking vinegar:  "...other "sure-fire"
solutions are even worse for you. Some people drink vinegar. There are
stories of some people drinking bleach. None of these will defeat the
urinalysis test."
From http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/bldrugtests.htm

Also, at http://cocaine.org/drugtestfaq/ I located this:

"6.3  Vinegar:  There is a myth that drinking vinegar will mask drugs;
it
won't.  However, vinegar lowers the pH of urine.  Amphetamines are
excreted
up to 3 times as fast when urine is acidified.  So vinegar could
reduce the
detection time period for amphetamines.  The effects on detection time
are
generally insignificant, and it in my opinion it really wouldn't be
worth
it to drink vinegar.  If you do decide to drink vinegar, I hear it's
easiest to get a shot glass and do it in shots.  It will cause
diarrhea."

and

"8.2.13  Vinegar:  Adding vinegar to your sample will test negative,
but
also drops the pH.  In fact, lowering the pH is what causes the sample
to
test negative.  "If the urine is extremely acidic or alkaline the
antigen-antibody reaction will proceed at a slower rate which COULD
produce
a false negative" (anon1).  This method is not recommended because if
you
are lucky and lower the pH enough to produce a negative, there's a
chance
that the pH itself will also be tested."

**************

Regarding vitamins, herbs or other remedies besides the "headshop
miracle drinks" you referenced that will mask or remove traces of
methamphetamine from urine, I only discovered:

"Although sold as herbal supplements, these products have drug-like
ingredients such as guarana, a stimulant similar to caffeine, and
ephedra, also know as Ma huang -- a chemical cousin of "speed" or
methamphetamine. Excessive use of these products can make the heart
race. Although all of the teens treated so far have recovered, the
supplements could be dangerous to people with some undiagnosed health
problems."

If a person takes Ma Huang, they might want to inform the drug tester
to be certain its chemical properties would not be confused with those
of methamphetamine.  The above information comes from
http://www.physicians-background.com/vit.html

I perused numerous links on herbs and vitamins in related
methamphetamine searches but could not locate solid medical facts that
a particular vitamin or mineral assisted in dissipating traces of
methamphetamine from urine.

*************

Should you require any clarification of the links or information I
have provided, please request it and I will be happy to respond.


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Comments  
Subject: Re: is this even possible?do you know?
From: angy-ga on 05 May 2003 20:59 PDT
 
"No sleep,funny talking,paranoia" can also be symptoms of clinical
depresion, or schizophrenia, among other things.

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