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Subject: Low Tech Ocean Current Measurement Methods - for hummer-ga
Category: Science > Earth Sciences
Asked by: oceanmark-ga
List Price: $20.00
Posted: 07 May 2003 10:17 PDT
Expires: 06 Jun 2003 10:17 PDT
Question ID: 200684
I wish to find out the direction and speed of an ocean current near
the sea floor off the coast of San Diego in waters with a seafloor
depth of from 1200 to 1500 feet. I know that acoustic doppler current
profile measurements can potentially be taken (ADCP), but I do not
have access to this type of equipment.  I do have access to a deep
water video taping system, however.  It is my intent to place a very
low-tech instrument on the seafloor and observe it with the video
camera to get some somewhat accurate readings.  I have been told that
something called an "inclinometer???" could be used for this, and that
sometimes children set these up for science fair demonstrations. 
Apparently, an inclinometer is somewhat like weather vanes, as they
orient into the current, and the angle that the current pushes up some
type of angled surface indicates the current level.  I could not find
out any more details. I also thought of just putting a series of flags
on a pole placed on the bottom, and seeing what direction and at what
angle, if any, that they fly.  Also, perhaps standard wind measurement
equipment could be used, but I do not know if they would work the same
way in water. I am interesest in getting readings only in fairly close
proximity to the seafloor, perhaps from the bottom up to about 5
meters or so above the bottom. From a prior question I asked, I
anticipate the currents to be between 5 and 30 cm/second.  My question
is, what low-tech, visual or mechanical (not electrical) methods are
available to me to figure out these bottom ocean currents?

Request for Question Clarification by hummer-ga on 07 May 2003 14:18 PDT
Hi again oceanmark,

It's nice to hear from you again and I'll be happy to revisit ocean
currents with you, thank you for asking. It will take me some time to
do this research but I will get back to you as soon as possible (it
won't be today, I hope that is ok).

Talk to you soon,
hummer

Clarification of Question by oceanmark-ga on 07 May 2003 19:37 PDT
Hummer,

Yes, I can wait. Thanks for taking the question.

Oceanmark
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Subject: Re: Low Tech Ocean Current Measurement Methods - for hummer-ga
Answered By: hummer-ga on 09 May 2003 08:41 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Hello oceanmark, 

Your new question is certainly an intriguing one and it congers up
images of you bobbing around out there on the water with all kinds of
ropes, antennas, cameras, fins, weather vanes, cylinders, baffles,
snorkels...

INCLINOMETER:

I'm happy to report that I found a web page that describes the
construction of an inclinometer which a person can use to measure
currents.
http://www.sccwrp.org/pubs/annrpt/92-93/ar-04.htm

I'm also happy to report that my son is home from university and that
he offered to give me a hand with your question.

Home-made inclinometers and other pendulum-like instruments actually
have a lot of physics behind them. The materials used in the
construction, and the shape of the final product will determine at
what angle the inclinometer will displace to in a current.  The
inclinometer must first be calibrated in water moving at a known
velocity (or by moving the inclinometer through the water at a known
velocity). Perhaps you could fix the inclinometer to the front of your
camera in such a way that it would be visible through the lens of the
camera. The inclinometer would be attached to a sort of swivel head,
so that the direction of the current could also be measured (if you
know what direction the camera is pointing).

PENDULUM:

In addition to this kind of an inclinometer, we have played with the
idea of using a pendulum. In other words, attach a pendulum (with
known attributes) to the camera so that it is able to sway out into
the current. The angle at which the pendulum bob displaces depends
upon many factors.

1) The density of the sea water approx 1000 meters down (~ 1.028 g/cm
cubed).
2) The density of the pendulum bob (to be determined by dividing its
weight by its volume).
3) The radius of the bob (it is easier if it is spherical).
4) The viscosity of the water (approx. 0.015 poise for 5 degree salt
water).
5) The velocity of the current (to be determined).

Since 1-4 can be measured easily, we may be able to approximate the
velocity of the current.

The force that would push the bob away from a horizontal position
would be equal to the drag that that occurs when the bob and the water
interact. This is dependent upon the viscosity of the water, and the
area and shape of the bob. To simplify things, (I think) the equation
to calculate the drag coefficient would be F(drag)= - 0.2827rV where r
is the radius of the sphere, and V is the velocity of the water.
The force of the drag (Fdrag) would be equal and opposite to the
horizontal force incurred by gravity acting upon the bob. Since
gravity would have less affect on the bob in water due to the density
of water, so the weight of the bob in salt water is equal to it's mass
minus the buoyancy of the water on the bob. If I read correctly, the
buoyancy force is equal to the volume of the bob multiplied by the
density of the water and the force of gravity. So F(buoyancy)= V(bob)
* 1.028 * 9.8.
This means that the weight of the bob in water would be 
M(bob)*9.8 - V(bob)*1.028*9.8.

Next, to calculate the velocity of the water using the angle at which
the bob resides from verticle, you can use an approximation of
horizontal force. Weight and horizontal force are in approximate
equilirium (only when horizontal displacement is less than 10% of of
the length of the pendulum) when F(drag)/weight(bob) = sin (angle to
horizontal).
Adding all of the equations together, you get

V = [sin(theta) * M*9.8 - v *1.028*9.8]/0.2827433r

where V = velocity of the current
M = mass of bob
v = volume of the bob
r = radius of the bob
theta = angle pendulum forms with the vertical

These calculations should be taken with a grain of salt, and are meant
more to stimulate your own thinking on the subject than anything else.
We would really recommend that you check with an expert (we're not
oceanographers). These are the types of things you may face if you
were to try and measure current with a pendulum. Apparently, in 1901,
pendulum current meters were in use. See this link for an example.

http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/ships/ship4034.htm


ADDITIONAL IDEAS, LINKS, THOUGHTS:

Description of the viscosity of ocean water:
http://www2.ocean.washington.edu/oc540/lec02-24/

Description of the density of ocean water
http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/earth/Water/density.html

Description of equations necessary to calculate the drag coefficient
of an object. Either one could assume that the viscosity of salt water
was close to what is published and that the shape of the object was a
perfect sphere, or one could calculate the drag coefficient of an
object by oserving the amount of time that the weighted object took to
fall through water of known density and of known depth.
http://www.rwc.uc.edu/koehler/biophys/2d.html

Electronic:
A simple screw type current meter that you could attach to a line and
sinker. It does not say how deep it is able to go, and its minimum
velocity rating is 4 cm/s (just above your minimum). It also requires
an electronic counter.
http://www.hydrologic-h2i.com/cu010.htm

...and another. This site mentions that is can be used in tidal water,
but it does not mention how deep it can be used.
http://www.valeport.co.uk/openchannelflowmeters.htm#model001002

Manufacturers of non-acoustic type current meters. 
The 105 and 106 models have a depth rating of 500m:
http://www.valeport.co.uk/indexlayers.htm
http://www.valeport.co.uk/pdf/model105.pdf

A seller of impeller type current meters:
http://www.aquadyne.no/topframe/oseanografisk.htm

A current meter rated at 1500 meters, the deepest impeller type meter
we have seen. It looks very expensive, though:
http://www.seatronics-group.com/oce/308.htm

Historical photos:
Various photos of old mechanical current meters. 
Included is a model based upon an anemometer:
http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/ships/shind24.htm

We trust that there is enough here to keep you busy for awhile. You've
taken us on an interesting journey and we'd like to wish you a happy,
fruitful and safe experiment.

Sincerely,
hummers

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oceanmark-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $20.00
Dear Hummer,

Thanks for the very good answer. I still have not reviewed all of the
math which is why I am late with this rating. I do like the idea of
the pendulum, which I will try to mock up in my swimming pool first. 
I do appreciate going beyond just a google search and doing the math
also. Great response, and hopefully you will help me out with some
questions in the future, although I do not have a follow up question
as yet.

Best Regards,

Oceanmark

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Subject: Re: Low Tech Ocean Current Measurement Methods - for hummer-ga
From: hummer-ga on 14 May 2003 10:05 PDT
 
Greetings Oceanmark,

It's good to hear from you - we were afraid we had put you to sleep!
Yes, we would've liked to have tried out the pendulum too but really
don't have anything large enough - a swimming pool would be great. I'd
love to help you with another question, but as I already mentioned, my
son helped me with this one and was a major contributor (actually
everything except the Inclinometer link is his) but he isn't always
around so we can't count on his availability. He really appreciates
your tip and it will be put to good use while he prepares for his
summer position in the wilds of Idaho - thank you. Thank you as well
for the fine rating and nice message.

Take care, Oceanmark,
Hummer

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