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Subject: Environmental Modelling/Maths
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: virus-ga
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Posted: 01 Jun 2002 23:26 PDT
Expires: 08 Jun 2002 23:26 PDT
Question ID: 20182
can you show analytically that eigen values of leslie matrix of 12*12
are given by :

p(ë) = ëii – a1 ën-1 – a2b1 ën-2 - …. – an(b1,b2…..bn-1)=0

and that this can be put in the form of 

q(ë) = a1/ ë + a2b1 / ë2 + …..+ anb1b2…bn-1/ ën = 1

?????????????????
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Subject: Re: Environmental Modelling/Maths
Answered By: pythagoras-ga on 02 Jun 2002 05:18 PDT
Rated:4 out of 5 stars
 
Dear Sir,

We start from the leslie matrix 12x12:

a1 a2 a3 a4 a5 a6 a7 a8 a9 a10 a11 a12
b1 0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0   0   0
0  b2 0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0   0   0
0  0  b3 0  0  0  0  0  0  0   0   0
0  0  0  b4 0  0  0  0  0  0   0   0
0  0  0  0  b5 0  0  0  0  0   0   0
0  0  0  0  0  b6 0  0  0  0   0   0
0  0  0  0  0  0  b7 0  0  0   0   0
0  0  0  0  0  0  0  b8 0  0   0   0
0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  b9 0   0   0
0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  b10 0   0
0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0   b11 0

to calculate the eigenvalues:
the determinant has to be 0

     a1 - ë a2   a3   a4   a5 a6 a7 a8 a9 a10 a11 a12
     b1     -ë   0    0    0  0  0  0  0  0   0   0
     0      b2   -ë   0    0  0  0  0  0  0   0   0
     0      0    b3   -ë   0  0  0  0  0  0   0   0
     0      0    0    b4  -ë  0  0  0  0  0   0   0
det( 0      0    0    0    b5 -ë 0  0  0  0   0   0     ) =0
     0      0    0    0    0  b6 -ë 0  0  0   0   0
     0      0    0    0    0  0  b7 -ë 0  0   0   0
     0      0    0    0    0  0  0  b8 -ë 0   0   0
     0      0    0    0    0  0  0  0  b9 -ë  0   0
     0      0    0    0    0  0  0  0  0  b10 -ë  0
     0      0    0    0    0  0  0  0  0  0   b11 -ë

we look to the first column and we "develop" to it:


(a1-ë)* det( -ë   0    0    0  0  0  0  0  0   0   0 ) 
             b2   -ë   0    0  0  0  0  0  0   0   0
             0    b3   -ë   0  0  0  0  0  0   0   0
             0    0    b4  -ë  0  0  0  0  0   0   0
             0    0    0    b5 -ë 0  0  0  0   0   0     
             0    0    0    0  b6 -ë 0  0  0   0   0
             0    0    0    0  0  b7 -ë 0  0   0   0
             0    0    0    0  0  0  b8 -ë 0   0   0
             0    0    0    0  0  0  0  b9 -ë  0   0
             0    0    0    0  0  0  0  0  b10 -ë  0
             0    0    0    0  0  0  0  0  0   b11 -ë

-b1* det(  a2   a3   a4   a5 a6 a7 a8 a9 a10 a11 a12 )
           b2   -ë   0    0  0  0  0  0  0   0   0
           0    b3   -ë   0  0  0  0  0  0   0   0
           0    0    b4  -ë  0  0  0  0  0   0   0
           0    0    0    b5 -ë 0  0  0  0   0   0     
           0    0    0    0  b6 -ë 0  0  0   0   0
           0    0    0    0  0  b7 -ë 0  0   0   0
           0    0    0    0  0  0  b8 -ë 0   0   0
           0    0    0    0  0  0  0  b9 -ë  0   0
           0    0    0    0  0  0  0  0  b10 -ë  0
           0    0    0    0  0  0  0  0  0   b11 -ë

= 0

the first determinant, is a "beneath triangle" det = the
multiplication of the diagonal elements = -ë^11
we have:
(a1 - ë)* (-ë^11)= ë^12 - a1*ë^11 (this is the first term)

we have to develop the second determinant further(again to the first
column): (RECURSIVE)
we notice that these determinant is from the same shape as the first;


-b1* det(  a2   a3   a4   a5 a6 a7 a8 a9 a10 a11 a12 )
           b2   -ë   0    0  0  0  0  0  0   0   0
           0    b3   -ë   0  0  0  0  0  0   0   0
           0    0    b4  -ë  0  0  0  0  0   0   0
           0    0    0    b5 -ë 0  0  0  0   0   0     
           0    0    0    0  b6 -ë 0  0  0   0   0
           0    0    0    0  0  b7 -ë 0  0   0   0
           0    0    0    0  0  0  b8 -ë 0   0   0
           0    0    0    0  0  0  0  b9 -ë  0   0
           0    0    0    0  0  0  0  0  b10 -ë  0
           0    0    0    0  0  0  0  0  0   b11 -ë

= -b1*a2 det( -ë   0    0  0  0  0  0  0   0   0 )
              b3   -ë   0  0  0  0  0  0   0   0
              0    b4  -ë  0  0  0  0  0   0   0
              0    0    b5 -ë 0  0  0  0   0   0     
              0    0    0  b6 -ë 0  0  0   0   0
              0    0    0  0  b7 -ë 0  0   0   0
              0    0    0  0  0  b8 -ë 0   0   0
              0    0    0  0  0  0  b9 -ë  0   0
              0    0    0  0  0  0  0  b10 -ë  0
              0    0    0  0  0  0  0  0   b11 -ë

-b1 * -b2 det(b3   -ë   0  0  0  0  0  0   0   0 )
              0    b4  -ë  0  0  0  0  0   0   0
              0    0    b5 -ë 0  0  0  0   0   0     
              0    0    0  b6 -ë 0  0  0   0   0
              0    0    0  0  b7 -ë 0  0   0   0
              0    0    0  0  0  b8 -ë 0   0   0
              0    0    0  0  0  0  b9 -ë  0   0
              0    0    0  0  0  0  0  b10 -ë  0
              0    0    0  0  0  0  0  0   b11 -ë

here is the first again the multiplicant of the diagonal elements = 
ë^10

we have for the first part again:
-b1*a2*ë^10 (this is thesecond term of the total equation)

if we do so on....after 12 steps, we have

ë^12 – a1*ë^11 – a2b1*ë^10 -...– an(b1*b2*..bn-1)=0 

this could be transformed to:
– a1*ë^11 – a2b1*ë^10 -...– an(b1*b2*..bn-1)= -ë^12
if we change ë^12 from side

this could be transformed to:
a1/ë1 a2b1/ë^2 +...+ an(b1,b2…..bn-1)/ë^12 = 1
if we divide the both parts of the equitation by: -ë^12

If you need a clarification, just ask, i will be pleased to help you
again.

Kind Regards,

Pythagoras

Clarification of Answer by pythagoras-ga on 02 Jun 2002 07:50 PDT
Dear Sir, 
 
A little mistake in the last part, it has to be b11 in stead of bn-1,
and a12 instead of an:
 
if we do so on....after 12 steps, we have  
  
ë^12 – a1*ë^11 – a2b1*ë^10 -...– a12(b1*b2*..b11)=0   
  
this could be transformed to:  
– a1*ë^11 – a2b1*ë^10 -...– a12(b1*b2*..b11)= -ë^12  
if we change ë^12 from side  
  
this could be transformed to:  
a1/ë1 a2b1/ë^2 +...+ a12(b1,b2…..b11)/ë^12 = 1  
if we divide the both parts of the equitation by: -ë^12 

Kind Regards,

Pythagoras

Request for Answer Clarification by virus-ga on 02 Jun 2002 20:11 PDT
DOes this men that from q(ë) we can show that A has at least one real
root ë=ë1, which is simple (distinct) and positive?

Can you explain please

Thanks

Clarification of Answer by pythagoras-ga on 03 Jun 2002 09:00 PDT
Dear Sir,

The original question doesn't include the clarification you are asking for.
Maybe you should repost the question, and then a researcher can look for the proof.
Excuse me, I can't help you directly.

Kind Regards,

Pythagoras
virus-ga rated this answer:4 out of 5 stars

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