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Franz Liszt and the Chopin Etudes
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Music Asked by: bradbwh-ga List Price: $5.00 |
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17 May 2003 14:33 PDT
Expires: 18 May 2003 10:25 PDT Question ID: 205172 |
Did Liszt play Chopin's Etudes during his legendary European tours? And which ones did he favor as performance pieces? |
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Re: Franz Liszt and the Chopin Etudes
From: leli-ga on 18 May 2003 07:12 PDT |
"At his next Viennese concert, Liszt purled through Chopin's Etude in F minor, Op 25 No 2. After the rapturous applause, he repeated the first bar slowly and tentatively - in octaves. Then again, a little faster. Then he really sped up and whisked the entire etude into an octave souffle." http://www2.hyperion-records.co.uk/notes/67086.html "Chopin's F minor [étude] opus 10, which Liszt frequently performed." http://www.openingday.com/9322-.htm (The Opus 10 études were dedicated to Liszt.) "Reportedly Chopin, listening to Liszt playing Chopin's Etudes, said: "I wish I could steal from him the way he plays them". http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?q=%22Liszt+++*++Chopin%27s+Etude+OR+%C3%A9tude+OR+%C3%A9tudes+OR+etudes%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=Pine.GSO.4.10.10103221035101.19181-100000%40ux8.cso.uiuc.edu&rnum=2 "I'm sure there are examples of composers who have found things they weren't aware of when listening to the interpretations of other - the only example I can think of right now (and not a particularly good one) is Liszt performing Chopin's Etudes" http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?q=%22Liszt+++*++Chopin%27s+Etude+OR+%C3%A9tude+OR+%C3%A9tudes+OR+etudes%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3ogilv%24oql%40spang.camosun.bc.ca&rnum=5 I hope another researcher will be able to find more. Regards - Leli |
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Re: Franz Liszt and the Chopin Etudes
From: tutuzdad-ga on 18 May 2003 07:51 PDT |
I don't know if it really offers much toward your question but in doing some research I ran across this tremendously interesting eBook called CHOPIN: THE MAN AND HIS MUSIC http://www.ibiblio.org/gutenberg/etext04/chmmm10.txt If the historical and biographical nature of this subject interests you as it does me, it's definitely worth reading. Regards; tutuzdad-ga |
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Re: Franz Liszt and the Chopin Etudes
From: markj-ga on 18 May 2003 07:53 PDT |
Here is an image of an April 9, 1836 program for a Liszt recital which included Chopin's Etudes, Opus 25: http://chopinfiles.com/Opus25-1.html Clearly, Liszt admired the Chopin Etudes. Unfortunately, I have been unable to find online information about the regularity with which he played these works on tour or his favorites among them. (Of course, his recitals featured mainly his own original works and transcriptions.) This is a fascinating question, and I will continue to look for more responsive information, although I fear that a complete answer may require some time-consuming library research. markj-ga markj-ga This is a fascinating question, and I have spent some time looking for responsive information on-line. Clearly, Liszt admired the Chopin Etudes, and he played them in recitals (an image of the program of one such progam is |
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Re: Franz Liszt and the Chopin Etudes
From: markj-ga on 18 May 2003 07:55 PDT |
Please pardon the garbling of my previous comment. Here is the way it was intended to read: Here is an image of an April 9, 1836 program for a Liszt recital which included Chopin's Etudes, Opus 25: http://chopinfiles.com/Opus25-1.html Clearly, Liszt admired the Chopin Etudes. Unfortunately, I have been unable to find online information about the regularity with which he played these works on tour or his favorites among them. (Of course, his recitals featured mainly his own original works and transcriptions.) This is a fascinating question, and I will continue to look for more responsive information, although I fear that a complete answer may require some time-consuming library research. markj-ga |
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Re: Franz Liszt and the Chopin Etudes
From: bradbwh-ga on 18 May 2003 09:38 PDT |
Thanks to everyone for their comments. Very interesting discussion! I look forward to following the links provided on this board. I once browsed through a small book (the title of which escapes me now, sorry) the focused on Liszt's German leg of his great 1838-1846 tour. There's a great deal of program information from those hundreds of concerts, apparently, and I noticed very few mentions of Chopin's Etudes. Surprising, since op. 10 is dedicated to Liszt, and he certainly had no trouble playing both books. (Very interesting about playing op25/2 in octaves! Thanks for posting that! Reminiscent of Dreyschock, who was reputed to play the Revolutionary left-hand part in all octaves.) Anyway, I suspect that Liszt concentrated on his big orchestral transcriptions because of their audience-wowing scope and obvious difficulties. Chopin's Etudes are difficult, but don't always *sound* difficult to an uneducated audience. Thanks again, bradbwh |
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