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Subject: Franz Liszt and the Chopin Etudes
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Music
Asked by: bradbwh-ga
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Posted: 17 May 2003 14:33 PDT
Expires: 18 May 2003 10:25 PDT
Question ID: 205172
Did Liszt play Chopin's Etudes during his legendary European tours?
And which ones did he favor as performance pieces?
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Subject: Re: Franz Liszt and the Chopin Etudes
From: leli-ga on 18 May 2003 07:12 PDT
 
"At his next Viennese concert, Liszt purled through Chopin's Etude in
F minor, Op 25 No 2. After the rapturous applause, he repeated the
first bar slowly and tentatively - in octaves. Then again, a little
faster. Then he really sped up and whisked the entire etude into an
octave souffle."
http://www2.hyperion-records.co.uk/notes/67086.html

"Chopin's F minor [étude] opus 10, which Liszt frequently performed."
http://www.openingday.com/9322-.htm

(The Opus 10 études were dedicated to Liszt.)

"Reportedly Chopin, listening to Liszt playing Chopin's Etudes, said:
"I wish I could steal from him the way he plays them".
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?q=%22Liszt+++*++Chopin%27s+Etude+OR+%C3%A9tude+OR+%C3%A9tudes+OR+etudes%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=Pine.GSO.4.10.10103221035101.19181-100000%40ux8.cso.uiuc.edu&rnum=2

"I'm sure there are examples of composers who have found things they
weren't aware of when listening to the interpretations of other - the
only example I can think of right now (and not a particularly good
one) is Liszt performing Chopin's Etudes"
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?q=%22Liszt+++*++Chopin%27s+Etude+OR+%C3%A9tude+OR+%C3%A9tudes+OR+etudes%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3ogilv%24oql%40spang.camosun.bc.ca&rnum=5

I hope another researcher will be able to find more.

Regards - Leli
Subject: Re: Franz Liszt and the Chopin Etudes
From: tutuzdad-ga on 18 May 2003 07:51 PDT
 
I don't know if it really offers much toward your question but in
doing some research I ran across this tremendously interesting eBook
called CHOPIN: THE MAN AND HIS MUSIC
http://www.ibiblio.org/gutenberg/etext04/chmmm10.txt

If the historical and biographical nature of this subject interests
you as it does me, it's definitely worth reading.

Regards;
tutuzdad-ga
Subject: Re: Franz Liszt and the Chopin Etudes
From: markj-ga on 18 May 2003 07:53 PDT
 
Here is an image of an April 9, 1836 program for a Liszt recital which
included Chopin's Etudes, Opus 25:

http://chopinfiles.com/Opus25-1.html 

Clearly, Liszt admired the Chopin Etudes. Unfortunately, I have been
unable to find online information about the regularity with which he
played these works on tour or his favorites among them.  (Of course,
his recitals featured mainly his own original works and
transcriptions.)
  
This is a fascinating question, and I will continue to look for more
responsive information, although I fear that a complete answer may
require some time-consuming library research.


markj-ga


markj-ga




This is a fascinating question, and I have spent some time looking for
responsive information on-line.  Clearly, Liszt admired the Chopin
Etudes, and he played them in recitals (an image of the program of one
such progam is
Subject: Re: Franz Liszt and the Chopin Etudes
From: markj-ga on 18 May 2003 07:55 PDT
 
Please pardon the garbling of my previous comment.  Here is the way it
was intended to read:


Here is an image of an April 9, 1836 program for a Liszt recital which
included Chopin's Etudes, Opus 25:
 
http://chopinfiles.com/Opus25-1.html  
 
Clearly, Liszt admired the Chopin Etudes. Unfortunately, I have been
unable to find online information about the regularity with which he
played these works on tour or his favorites among them.  (Of course,
his recitals featured mainly his own original works and
transcriptions.)
   
This is a fascinating question, and I will continue to look for more
responsive information, although I fear that a complete answer may
require some time-consuming library research.
 
 
markj-ga
Subject: Re: Franz Liszt and the Chopin Etudes
From: bradbwh-ga on 18 May 2003 09:38 PDT
 
Thanks to everyone for their comments. Very interesting discussion! I
look forward to following the links provided on this board.

I once browsed through a small book (the title of which escapes me
now, sorry) the focused on Liszt's German leg of his great 1838-1846
tour. There's a great deal of program information from those hundreds
of concerts, apparently, and I noticed very few mentions of Chopin's
Etudes. Surprising, since op. 10 is dedicated to Liszt, and he
certainly had no trouble playing both books. (Very interesting about
playing op25/2 in octaves! Thanks for posting that! Reminiscent of
Dreyschock, who was reputed to play the Revolutionary left-hand part
in all octaves.) Anyway, I suspect that Liszt concentrated on his big
orchestral transcriptions because of their audience-wowing scope and
obvious difficulties. Chopin's Etudes are difficult, but don't always
*sound* difficult to an uneducated audience.

Thanks again,
bradbwh

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