I am sure, there is a point of diminishing return for the concept that
less tax means more of the people's money left where it may be
invested and spent to generate revenue from more sources though less
from each individual.
My fellow Democrats have chosen the path of taking the money from the
people and spending it for them, as one feamale Dem. house member said
on FOX "we should take the tax-cut and improve the infrastructure, to
mend the economy".  Such an idiot.  In the firat place such government
projects involve redtape that will not provide the instant boost we
need.  In the second place the handling charges will sap too much of
the funds.  Thirdly this approach has always presented a "PORK" fight
amoung the most powerful representitives.  Furthermore, spending tax
money with existing contractors does not have the lasting effect of
leaving the funds with the people who earned it and letting them
persue their own endevors.

If the main purpose for this tax cut is to engender new endeavors that
will generate more tax-payers though less tax from each entity, and
provide quick stimulus, then which DONKEY, thinks this is not the time
to cut taxes.  My fellwo stpid Democrats say no tax cut when we are in
dire strates from the 9-11 hit on the economy, nor when during a
WAR-DRAIN because of the war on TERROR nor when we suffer the
ENRONitis blow to the economy.  Despite my being a poor black dummy
Democrat, if I made such a dumb statement I would volenteer to be
whipped and hog tied. If we shouldn't try to stimulate when we are
down then when else?  This kind of decision is what seperates the men
from the boys. this is the "lesser of two evils" delimma. This is
jumping from the WTC on 9-11 rather than burning.  We Dems do not seem
to excel in this kind of decision making.  Every bone in me says that
we put the vote avove the good of the country.

Fellwo Dems, this is not a ROBINHOOD tax cut, it's a SIMULUS tax cut.
This means less revenue from more payers, get it?  And ACROSS THE
BOARD includes rich and poor. It is WRITTEN "I WILL SEND RAIN BOTH ON
THE JUST & THE UNJUST" that is if you believe that the rich is unjust.

CONFUTE WITH FACTS, DON'T REFUTE WITH PRIVATE OPINION.

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Request for Question Clarification by gwagner-ga on 18 May 2003 15:45 PDT

Hi there again, toughlover,
 
I'm not sure what your specific question is, but in case you are
looking for articles and/or economists that argue why this tax cut
might not stimulate the economy the way the administration hopes for,
Alan Greenspan probably provides the best example. Even though he
served under the Clinton Whitehouse, he can hardly be called a
Democrat and he was also cautiously in favor of Bush's first tax-cut
plan. However, he does not share the administration's sentiment on
this plan. See, for example,
http://news.google.com/news?q=greenspan+tax+cut for a selection of
articles on Mr. Greenspan's views.

Please restate your question in a concise form and I'd be happy to
answer it.

Best,
gwagner-ga

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Clarification of Question by toughlover-ga on 18 May 2003 20:37 PDT

Ok Mr. Gwagner, here it comes:

I read some of the references you provide, and I am still waiting to
change my views, and here is why: Greenspan says "big deficits will
raise interest rates"
What a stupid nonnsence observation.  In the first place, has there
been a time in recent history when we could better assimilate a rise
in interest rates?  Secondly, does he not notice that Japan's economy
tanked despite their ZERO PERCENT interest rate?  If I recall
correctly even zero interest rate has less than ideal effects.

I notice in all of the articles, the "experts" are all edging their
bets with words like MAY, SUGGEST, COULD, THINK and IF.  None of them
is willing to put their jobs on the line as does the POTUS.  Show me
an expert who agerres to pay with his job if he is wrong and I might
examine his theory.

I noticed in the David Franks piece, that a pole showed that 58% of
the people think that reducing the deficit will be better for the
economy.  What a stupid expletive jakass it is who asked that
question? Which idiot doesent know that the weak economy is one of the
causes of the deficit?  FOOLS, FOOLS.  That reminds me of the joke:
the easiest way to catch a bird is to sprinkle salt on its tail. 
Where will the money come from to fix the deficit except from the
tax-payer who is the economy.  How can you put salt on the birds tail
unless you catch it first.  Idiots...

Why the hell are we attempting to run the country and micro-manage the
presedent with polls. Which media fool thinks, the "American Street"
knows enough to make that kind of decision if the experts are IFFING &
BUTTING.  Why is the media mis-leading the people into thinking that
we have a pure democracy where, the people make the day to day
decisions of whether we go to war or cut taxes.  Fools, we the people
are not equipped to do this, that is why we have the Electorial
College, the Congress the President, FOOLS it is representive
government, not mob rule.  Maybe that is why so many Americans still
say that Gore won, because the media makes them think that it's the
majority of people who vote that rules rather than the E. College.

Why does every NAYSAYER have to try to micro-manage the president, if
this process worked for JFK, and Reagan then this president has every
right to put his job on the line without every Tom Dick & Harry trying
to stop him from jumping from the BURNING W.T.C..  FOOLS, FOOLS, the
lesser of the two evils is to jump.  Tax cut is the lesser evil to
doing nothing.

I do not expect an answer for a moot question, but I sure appreciate
your input.  Comments are more important cause I can challenge them.

I am no tax expert or economist, but the premise of your question makes sense to me.

Dear RedHoss, thanks for the comment, I am curious, what is your
political persuasion, this knowledge would lend more integrity to your
obsrevation.  Are you a tough love DEM like I am or a GOP?

I am no tax nor economy expert either, but it is written "knowledge
shall be hidden from the wise and prudent and revealed unto the babes
and suckling"
Comon sence is revealed to those without a veil of bias. I just made
that up, it's not a quote.

Hi!

I live in the UK and was brought up to believe that we depended on our
exports to survive but now virtually all our industries have
disappeared: textiles, computers, motors, engineering, and what's left
(like agriculture) are in deep trouble.

Yet we survive - even though our last surviving industry, the call
centres, are being relocated to India.

It's magic.

Believe it, it seems to work but don't ask how.

Trust the politicians, they know what's best (Ho, ho, ho)

Regards

Bryan

Hey there Gwagner, since the Party-Animals "cant touch this", why dont
you re-submit your comment as an answer, I'll accept it, I got stars
burning a hole in my pocket:)