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Subject: Requesting assistance with this URL
Category: Business and Money > Advertising and Marketing
Asked by: opposing_force-ga
List Price: $5.00
Posted: 20 May 2003 18:12 PDT
Expires: 19 Jun 2003 18:12 PDT
Question ID: 206576
Hello all,

Can anyone assist me in getting my site
www.mortgageleadsgeneration.com re-indexed within Google's search
results?

last year, a competitor submitted our sites to a link farm with the
result being that all the sites that were submitted in this way were
banned/dropped from Google's index.  We have been successful (after
asking Google for help) in getting all sites re-indexed with the
exception of www.mortgageleadsgeneration.com .....

I have sent numerous emails to comments@ and have been told that the
site has been researched and that there is no reason why it shouldn't
be re-indexed ...... alas it remains off the engine.  In the past, to
get our other sites included once again in the search results,
'someone' there within Google's walls manually included it to be
spidered and lo and behold that WORKED.

Can I request the same be done for www.mortgageleadsgeneration.com?  I
have tried manually submitting it (and the sites that link to it) with
no success.  I have checked the sites linking to it - all are valid
sites.  If there is another reason why the site is not to be included
in the index, would someone please let me know the reasons and at
least then I have something to go on.

Thanks for your help - it has been INVALUABLE in the past :)

Sandie

Request for Question Clarification by aceresearcher-ga on 21 May 2003 14:25 PDT
Greetings, sandie!

Can you list the name/website of the link farm that got you banned,
and the sites which you believe are legitimately linked to you?

Thanks,

aceresearcher

Clarification of Question by opposing_force-ga on 21 May 2003 15:18 PDT
Hello,

Well, I do remember that the link farm generated HUNDREDS of worthless
links .... but I am not sure now that I remember the URL because it
may be that our competitor submitted us to more than one.  I know that
there were just hundreds of links............... and our site was
banned directly after that.

As for the sites that are legitimate links, we lost quite a few as a
result of being banned and the guest book links that do show up are
just another example of our competitor "spamming" our site to peoples'
guest books without our knowledge.

We have several links:
http://www.ired.com/mort/
http://www.mortgagebankingmag.com/mb0429.htm
www.avsights.com/web_marketing.html 

These links alone should've gotten our site indexed, as we have
advertised on www.mortgagemag.com for several years.  I hope this
information helps.

Best regards,
Sandie

Request for Question Clarification by aceresearcher-ga on 28 May 2003 10:34 PDT
Hi, opposing_force.

My apologies. While I did find some things that looked somewhat
questionable, I felt that my research on your Question did not turn up
something such that I could definitively Answer your Question, and I
left it alone so that some other Researcher might possibly take a look
at it and solve your problem.

However, I believe that I did save my research on your website. I will
take a look at it again.

Can you please list for me ALL of your sites? Also, if you are able to
give me at least one of the URLs from the link farms to which you got
submitted, it would really, really help. Please bear in mind that
Google Answers Researchers are independent contractors, and we have no
"inside" knowledge of how Google's Search Engine works. However, given
enough information, we are sometimes able to help webmasters discover
and fix the source of their problems.

Meanwhile, the Googlebot has your other Question locked (because it
has the magic "G" word in it) for review by the Editors, before being
made available to Researchers. Please go ahead and expire that
Question, so that you don't get charged anything other than the 50c
listing fee for it.

For future reference, you do not need to post a new Question to get
attention on a previously-asked Question; all you need to do is use
the "Clarify Question" button to post a Clarification, and that will
reset the time/date modified stamp on the Question, bringing it back
to the top of the Researchers' List of Questions Needing to be
Answered.

Researcher skermit-ga has developed a step-by-step illustration of the
Google Answers process here, which you may find helpful:
http://www.christopherwu.net/google_answers/answer_guide.html 

Thanks,

ace

Clarification of Question by opposing_force-ga on 28 May 2003 13:27 PDT
Hello and thank you for responding,

Our main URL is www.mortgageleadsgeneration.com.  I have tried to
track down some of the hundreds of links we had at the time our
competitor submitted our site to the link farms but this situation
occurred about a year ago and I just don't have a record any longer. 
The site mlg.com used to rank about 5th or 6th on the first page for
"mortgage leads" so I don't know if that is of any use to you.  I hope
you can help to get this site re-indexed!

Best regards,
Sandie

Request for Question Clarification by aceresearcher-ga on 28 May 2003 13:38 PDT
Sandie,

You say that your "main URL" is www.mortgageleadsgeneration.com .

If you have other URLs that start with something different, I need to
know those, too.

Thanks,

ace

Clarification of Question by opposing_force-ga on 28 May 2003 15:18 PDT
Hi,

our other urls are www.california-home-loans-ca.com and
www.florida-home-loans-fl.com.  Thanks.

Best regards,
Sandie

Clarification of Question by opposing_force-ga on 29 May 2003 18:10 PDT
Hi Ace,

I thought this might be of use to you.  I wrote to Google before using
Google Answers, and this is the reply I received this afternoon.  If
Pagerank is an issue, that is because of the hundreds of bogus links
that were connected to our site - those links have been gone for
months now and I don't see why this should be an issue any longer.  If
competitors realize that they can get other peoples' pages banned this
easily, EVERYONE will be doing it..........  Anything you can do to
get us "unbanned" will be very much appreciated.   Sandie


Subj: Re: [#2371870] Request assistance with this URL 
Date: 5/29/2003 4:28:49 PM Pacific Standard Time 
From:    comments@google.com
To:    Bestlending@cs.com
 


Hi Sandy, 

Thank you for your note. 

Your page has been blocked from our index because it does not meet the
quality standards necessary to assign accurate PageRank. We cannot
comment
on the individual reasons your page was removed. However, certain
actions
such as cloaking, writing text in such a way that it can be seen by
search
engines but not by users, or setting up pages/links with the sole
purpose
of fooling search engines may result in permanent removal from our
index.
Please read our webmaster guidelines at
://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html for more information.

Regards,
The Google Team

Request for Question Clarification by aceresearcher-ga on 29 May 2003 19:10 PDT
Sandie,

I confess that I'm stumped. The only other thing of which I can think
would be to get a look at your site as it looked a month ago, to see
if anything has changed. If you can put up an old (last month or so)
copy of your website at your other URL,
http://www.mortgageleadsgeneration.net , I can take a look at it and
see if there's anything there that might be causing the problem.

I can think of only a couple of other possibilities:

1) Do you use software or a web service to auto-submit your site to
Search Engines, or to automatically check your Search Results
rankings?

2) Have you sat down with your webmaster and asked them frankly to
list the website design techniques they are using to help provide
Search Engine placement for your site?


If you are able to come up with any of the above information for me,
please post it here, so that I can take another look at your site.

Best Wishes,

ace
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