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Subject: problems getting my web site on Google in one piece
Category: Computers
Asked by: ignatz7-ga
List Price: $15.00
Posted: 20 May 2003 18:33 PDT
Expires: 19 Jun 2003 18:33 PDT
Question ID: 206582
I have a web site that is supposedly up and running; it is
www.bethanycampbell.com.  I tried to get this address into Google, but
never having done this before, I entered the address, then hit the
wrong button. I was supposed to add a description.  After a day or so
the site appeared, with no description, of course.  But shortly after,
it appeared listed twice, with the
seond one shortly described as "home."  But this site was incomplete.
Parts were not coming through.  Now both listings are gone.  I can
pull the site up on Yahoo, but it's the incomplete one.  My web master
told me to put my site on Google myself, but obviously I've screwed
up.  How can I unscrew it and rescrew it so it functions correctly
(parts of the site are still under construction).
I know so little about computers that you would fall down laughing.  
                                        Bewildered, Bethany
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Subject: Re: problems getting my web site on Google in one piece
Answered By: aceresearcher-ga on 21 May 2003 19:50 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Greetings, Bethany!

First of all, if anyone here falls down while laughing at you for not
knowing a lot about computers, and I happen to see it, I will
personally whap them upside the head.

There is nothing wrong with you not knowing how to program, and not
understanding all the ins-and-outs of website development.
  
That is why Google Answers is here, to help people do things that they
don't know how to do.

However, I DO have a very serious concern: you mention your "Web
Master". If a friend or relative designed this site for you out of the
goodness of their heart, that's fine, and they've done a pretty nice
job so far. But if you are PAYING someone to design your website for
you, in my opinion, you should seriously consider demanding that they
give you half the fee back, and here's why (and you'll have to please
pardon my bluntness; on the day that they handed out tact, I was at
home sick):

You have a lovely, eye-pleasing site. It's simple, not cluttered, and
fairly user-friendly. However, the way that it has been coded, it is
virtually invisible to Search Engines, and as far as I'm concerned,
half of a Webmaster's job (probably the more important half) is making
sure that a website is visible and friendly to Search Engines -- as
well as making sure that the site gets submitted to and listed by the
major Search Engines. If a paid Webmaster hasn't done those things,
then they've only done half of their job (or less). A fabulous,
beautiful website isn't worth a cent if the Search Engines won't index
it.

Now, First Things First:

Awhile back, we had a webmaster wondering why his website, which was
still under construction, had not been indexed, even though he had
submitted his URL to Google. Webmasters, who are understandably
anxious to start getting hits on their sites, sometimes tend to want
to put the cart before the horse. Google, DMOZ (the Open Directory
Project), and other search engines are quite adamant that they are
only interested in websites with useful content. So there isn't any
point in submitting a site to Search Engines before there is real
content on it to be indexed.
 
It's important to FIRST design your site to be as friendly and
desirable to Search Engines as possible. THEN you can worry about
getting the Search Engines to index you so that people will come to
your site. For this reason, I encourage you to get the rest of your
pages up and running as soon as possible, so that when you submit to
Search Engines, they have a lot of good content to index.
 
With that in mind, the first thing we're going to do is take a look at
the content, design, and programming code of your website.
 
We'll enter your URL into the Search Engine Spider Simulator at Search
Engine World. This simulator shows something similar to what the
Googlebot sees when it indexes your site:
http://www.searchengineworld.com/cgi-bin/sim_spider.cgi 
 
The simulator shows: 
-------------------------------------------------------------------
"Spider title          Bethany Campbell - Romance and Suspense Novels
 Spider meta desc      No description available. 
 Spider meta keywords  <blank>
 Spider Text 
   Click to enter Le Chat Noir Cafe 
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Spidered Links 
 = spider this link with current settings. 
 = keyword density analyze this link. 
Link"
-------------------------------------------------------------------
 
This does not look good, for several reasons.

The first is that the ENTIRE content (text) of this page consists of
the words "Click to enter Le Chat Noir Cafe". A Search Engine is not
going to find this of much interest, and may not even index your site
at all because of it.

Now for the second reason: a well-designed site *can* get away with a
very minimal front page, IF a Search Engine Spider can follow the
links on it and find a lot of content on the rest of the site. But
although your front page contains one link -- to enter the actual site
-- the Spider Simulator doesn't think you have any links. If a Search
Engine Spider can't see your links, it won't Search and index the rest
of your pages. It is likely for this reason that the Googlebot has not
indexed your site because it doesn't think that you have any content.

Thirdly, the title of your page is "Bethany Campbell - Romance and
Suspense Novels". That's fine for your front page. However, ALL your
pages have that exact same title. The title of a page is what will
show up first in Search Engine Results, possibly followed by an
extract of some of the text on that page.

Finally, you have no <meta> description or keywords listed for your
site. <Meta> tags are "invisible" labels built into the html code of
your page that provide information to robots, spiders, and webcrawlers
about what your page contains. Now, for the purposes of Search
Ranking, the Googlebot and most other major Search Engines no longer
look at <meta> tags, because webmasters tried to skew their Search
Results by "stacking" their meta tags with hundreds of keywords, many
of which were totally unrelated to the content of the site. However,
the latest word is that Google and some other Search Engines still
look at <meta> tags as a way to cross-check the validity of the actual
text on your site, so you will want to do a good job with yours.


So, let's get to fixing your site up a bit:

PAGE TITLES 
-----------
This is a **very** important part of getting your site's pages noticed
and indexed by Search Engines: it differentiates the pages on your
site to Search Engines, and it increases the odds that **at least
one** of your pages will come up in a Google Search for your relevant
keywords.
 
Each page on your site should have its own title, and that title
should be fairly brief, but very descriptive of the contents and/or
function of that page. On your Main Page, your Title should include
the name of your business or the overall subject of your site.
 
Notice that in a list of Google Search results, the underlined,
clickable Header preceding each text excerpt comes from the Page
Title. Click on the Search Link below, then look at the underlined
Headers on the Search Results page:

Romance and Suspense Novels
://www.google.com/search?q=Romance+and+Suspense+Novels

Then click on the underlined Header for the first result, and notice
that it matches the Page Title at the top of your Browser:

Marti Phillips, Author of Historical Romance, Mystery Suspense Novels
http://hometown.aol.com/Romnovelst/books.html

This Header Title is created by the following html statement inside
the Header definition for the page:
<title>Marti Phillips, Author of Historical Romance, Mystery Suspense
Novels</title>

So your title might be something like:
<title>Bethany Campbell, Author - Historical Romance and Suspense
Novels</title>


<META> TAGS
-----------
Now, for your <meta> description: This should be one or two sentences
in correct English grammar such as <meta name="description"
content="Bethany Campbell (aka Lisa Harris), Author of Historical
Romance, Mystery, and Suspense novels published as Harlequin, Crystal
Creek, Intrigue, Romance, SuperRomance, Temptation, and Bantam
Books">. For each page, choose whatever you think best, as long as
it's not too lengthy and is specifically descriptive of the content on
that page.
 
Then for your <meta> keywords, sit down and think of all the words
that apply to your website and your artwork. My suggest for a start
would be:
<meta name="keywords" content="Bethany Campbell, Lisa Harris, author,
authors, writer, writers, novelist, novelists, novel, novels, book,
books, fiction, historical, romance, mystery, suspense, published,
publisher, Harlequin, Crystal Creek, Intrigue, Romance, SuperRomance,
Temptation, Bantam"> etc., you get the idea.


<ROBOTS> TAGS
------------- 
To encourage Search Engine robots to crawl and index your page,
include the following robots <meta> tags:
<meta name="Robots" content="index,follow">   
<meta name="revisit-after" content="10 Days">  
 
So, the html code at the beginning of your pages should look something
like this:

<html>
<head>
<title>Bethany Campbell, Author - Historical Romance and Suspense
Novels</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=iso-8859-1">
<meta name="description"
content="Bethany Campbell (aka Lisa Harris), Author of Historical
Romance, Mystery, and Suspense novels published as Harlequin, Crystal
Creek, Intrigue, Romance, SuperRomance, Temptation, and Bantam
Books">.
<meta name="keywords" content="Bethany Campbell, Lisa Harris, author,
authors, writer, writers, novelist, novelists, novel, novels, book,
books, fiction, historical, romance, mystery, suspense, published,
publisher, Harlequin, Crystal Creek, Intrigue, Romance, SuperRomance,
Temptation, Bantam">
<meta name="Robots" content="index,follow">   
<meta name="revisit-after" content="10 Days">  
</head>
........
</html>


ROBOTS.TXT FILE
---------------
Also, upload a text file (this can be created with Notepad) to your
server with the URL http://www.bethanycampbell.com/robots.txt which
contains the following:
 
User-agent: *  
Disallow:   
 
This file will also encourage Search Engine robots to crawl and index
your page; it tells robots that they are all allowed to index your
site, and that you do not forbid them to visit any area of it. To
ensure that your robots.txt file is done correctly, run it through the
robots.txt file validator at:
http://www.searchengineworld.com/cgi-bin/robotcheck.cgi 
 

CONTENT/TEXT
------------
Now, for your text. The best way to convince a Search Engine that you
have a lot of content is to put a fair amount of it on your home page.

However, as I said previously, you *can* get away with a very simple
entrance page if it's done properly. Take a look at this site:

Kimberly Moynahan Gerson - One Writer's Desk
http://members.rogers.com/kmgerson

Here's what the Spider Simulator sees when it looks at her front page:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
"Spider title          Kimberly Moynahan Gerson:: One Writer's Desk 
 Spider meta desc      A small collection of essays and creative non-
                       fiction written by Kimberly Moynahan Gerson 
 Spider meta keywords  Kimberly Moynahan Gerson writer essay creative
                       non-fiction magazine science nature  
 Spider Text 
   Kimberly Moynahan Gerson One Writer's Desk
   copyright 2002 Kimberly Moynahan Gerson 
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Spidered Links 
 = spider this link with current settings. 
 = keyword density analyze this link. 
Link 
    http://members.rogers.com/Page%20Gallery/Base%20Pages/KMG%2
0Home.htm "
-------------------------------------------------------------------

The main difference is that her link is attached to the html text
"Kimberly Moynahan Gerson" inside of a table definition <td>, whereas
your link is attached to a graphic *picture* of the word "Enter"
inside a map:
<map name="FPMap0">
   <area coords="71, 315, 167, 364" shape="rect" href="Home.html"
    alt="Click to enter Le Chat Noir Cafe">
</map>

According to Danny Sullivan, the Search Engine Guru and Editor at
SearchEngineWatch, in an article entitled "Search Engine Placement
Tips" (October 14, 2002):

"Avoid Search Engine Stumbling Blocks

Some search engines see the web the way someone using a very old
browser might. They may not read image maps. They may not read frames.
You need to anticipate these problems, or a search engine may not
index any or all your web pages."


The fix may just be a simple matter of attaching your link href from
the image map instead to the main page graphic, such as in changing
the current statement:
<TD>
    <IMG SRC="cat-splash_01.gif" ALT="" width="245" height="396">
</TD>

to:
<TD>
    <a href="Home.html">
        <IMG SRC="cat-splash_01.gif"
         ALT="Click to enter Le Chat Noir Cafe"
         width="245" height="396">
    </a>
</TD>

(Note that this would enable someone to click anywhere on your main
page to enter your site.)

I bet that if you do this, the Spider Simulator and the Googlebot will
be able to "see" your link, as well as your "alt" text, index it as
content, and follow the link to index the rest of your site.

"alt" tags are also an important part of Content: ANY graphic or image
on your site, whether clickable or not, should have an "alt" label
assigned to it, since the Search Engines index these as actual
content.


Now, about that keyword list: Even though the Search Engines don't
actually use your <meta> keyword list to index your site, that list
serves a very useful purpose: You can use it as a "checklist" to make
sure that your Text Content contains all of the words (and word
combinations) in your keyword list. The most important words on the
<meta> keyword list for each page should appear in the text of that
page at least 2 or three times (but don't go overboard -- the
Googlebot would almost certainly consider the appearance of "romance
novels" 50 or more times on just one of your pages to be a "spamming"
attempt to skew Search Results).

While some Webmasters used the technique in the past to improve their
indexing for non-relevant keywords, NOTE that the Googlebot also
notices, and frowns upon, the "trick" of listing lots of text keywords
in 0-point and/or invisible (same color as the background) or clear
font, and may drop a website from the index for doing this.
 
However, a perfectly legitimate technique to improve your site's
Content for Search Engines would be to add a line of your menu links
(including "alt" labels) at the bottom of your main page, below the
full-page graphic where it is not readily visible on the screen, and
thus not cluttering up the clean, simple appearance of that main entry
page.


Finally, once you have made all these modifications to your site, it's
time to submit it to Search Engines to be indexed. Here's how you
submit your site to Search Engines:
  
Be sure to follow their instructions; for instance, some Engines
request that you submit only your top-level URL
(www.bethanycampbell.com) rather than every one of your pages. Failure
to follow the instructions can result in lowered rankings or even in
being blacklisted from a Search Engine.
   
  Google:    
://www.google.com/addurl.html   
  (Be aware that it may take anywhere from 1 to 3 months for your site
to start showing up on Google; however, since Google also uses DMOZ as
a guide to its indexing efforts, you might be able to speed that up a
little by also submitting your site in a DMOZ category as described
next.)
 
  DMOZ (Directory Mozilla/Open Directory Project):  
http://dmoz.org/add.html   
   (I recommend choosing one of the subcategories at 
Arts: Literature: Genres: Romance  
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Literature/Genres/Romance ;
    once you're on the page for the category you choose, 
    click on the blue "Add URL" hypertext link in the 
    upper right-hand corner of the page) 
 
  HotBot:   
http://ldbreg.lycos.com/cgi-bin/mayaLogin?m_PR=29&m_CBURL=http://insite.lycos.com/searchservices/lite?step1.asp
 
  AllTheWeb:   
http://www.alltheweb.com/add_url.php   
 
  AltaVista:   
http://addurl.altavista.com/addurl/new   
 
  Zeal (LookSmart/MSN free submission w/free registration)   
http://www.zeal.com/users/register.jhtml   
 
 
For more information on developing a Google-friendly website, I
recommend that you study the information in Google's Help Department:
://www.google.com/webmasters   
Guidelines   
://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html   
Facts & Fiction (myths dispelled)   
://www.google.com/webmasters/facts.html   
Search Engine Optimization (SEO)   
://www.google.com/webmasters/seo.html   
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)   
://www.google.com/webmasters/faq.html   
User Support Discussion Forum   
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=google.public.support.general   
  
  
Another fabulous resource is the forum at WebmasterWorld.com:   
http://www.webmasterworld.com   
   
and at Search Engine World:   
http://www.searchengineworld.com   
   
I encourage you to visit these sites and learn more about making your
site attractive and friendly to Search Engines.
  
 
Before Rating my Answer, if you have any questions about this
information, please post a Request for Clarification, and I will be
glad to see what I can do for you.
 
I hope that this Answer provides exactly the information that you
needed.
  
Best wishes, Bethany, and I am looking forward to seeing your site pop
up in the Search Results soon!
  
aceresearcher
ignatz7-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $10.00
It's clear why you're called "Ace". Though much of the technical info
is beyond me at this point, you clarified much and opened the door to
what needs to be learned.  You're not just a fine researcher, but a
fine teacher, too.  Many thanks.

Comments  
Subject: Re: problems getting my web site on Google in one piece
From: ironcito-ga on 21 May 2003 11:47 PDT
 
Hi Bethany,

   When you submit your website to Google, the only thing that matters
is the address (URL), which in your case is www.bethanycampbell.com.
The "Googlebot" will take care of indexing your entire website, so you
only need to submit the homepage address, and not every individual
page.
  Google doesn't require or support a description for your website, as
it will show the relevant parts of text according to the keywords that
the person is searching for, and not a description.

   Quote:
  "You may also add comments or keywords that describe the content of
your page. These are used only for our information and do not affect
how your page is indexed or used by Google."

  If your website doesn't show up, it's probably because the Googlebot
hasn't got to it yet, or that it wasn't included in the database for
whatever reason.

  Quote:
  "We do not add all submitted URLs to our index, and we cannot make
any predictions or guarantees about when or if they will appear."

   So, to sum up, if you want your website to appear on Google and all
search engines that use the Google database, all you need to do is go
to www.google.com/addurl.html and type http://www.bethanycampbell.com
where it says "URL". Then click "Add URL" and that's it. Be careful to
type your address correctly, including the http://
   Well, I hope that helps clarify things a bit. Let me know if I can
help any further. Cheers! :)
Subject: Re: problems getting my web site on Google in one piece
From: heavylee-ga on 22 May 2003 07:30 PDT
 
Aceresearcher-

That was a SPECTACULAR answer, and it taught me alot.  I am in the
process of building a website for my brother-in-law, and the tips you
suggested were all new to me.  I have already made a list of the
things I need to add/change on the site so it will be indexed
properly.

You da man!
Subject: Re: problems getting my web site on Google in one piece
From: aceresearcher-ga on 22 May 2003 10:57 PDT
 
heavylee,

Actually, I'm da woman. But I don't really don't stress over gender
misidentification; there just aren't many clues given on Google
Answers for the Customers to be able to figure that out. ;-)

Thank you for your kind words. Website development and Search Engine
Optimization are really moving targets; as soon as you think you've
got things figured out, they change, and it's a constant learning
experience for me, too. It pleases me a great deal when I am told that
my Answers have actually made life easier for a Customer!

If you found *this* Answer helpful, you might like
(geez, do I sound like Amazon.com???) these other Answers:

http://answers.google.com/answers/main?cmd=search&q=%22answered+by%3A+robertskelton%22
http://answers.google.com/answers/main?cmd=search&q=%22answered+by%3A+aceresearcher%22

And of course, if you come up with Questions that have not yet been
addressed on Google Answers, you are always welcome to post a Question
yourself. ;-)

Best Wishes on your website development!

ace
Subject: Re: problems getting my web site on Google in one piece
From: aceresearcher-ga on 23 May 2003 20:29 PDT
 
Bethany,

Thank you SO MUCH for the excellent rating, the generous tip, and your
exceedingly kind words. You have NO idea how much I needed to hear
them right now, and they mean a lot to me.

Best wishes on your continued website development -- I usually keep an
eye on my past Customers' websites, so I will look forward to seeing
your completed website, and to finding it in the top Search Results
for Romance and Historical Novels.

Best Wishes,

ace

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