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no refrigerator and/or television *by choice* ?
Category: Family and Home Asked by: futurebird-ga List Price: $6.00 |
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04 Jun 2002 10:27 PDT
Expires: 04 Jul 2002 10:27 PDT Question ID: 20675 |
I would like to know if there are many people who live without a refrigerator by choice. That is not just the number of homes in the US that dont have a refrigerator(I found that already) but do any of these people have no refrigerator by choice? Is there any movement for refridgeratorless living? How can I contact such people? Related to this, I would like to know the number of American household with no television, again not because they cant afford one but because they simply dont want one. If in both of the above instances it would be possible to also omit Amish people or other people who live without certain modern machines for religious reason that would be ideal. Im most interested in people who live in large urban areas who use modern technology (such as computers and whatnot) but who do not own/use refrigerators and/or television. Thanks! |
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Re: no refrigerator and/or television *by choice* ?
Answered By: politicalguru-ga on 16 Jun 2002 07:26 PDT Rated: |
Dear Futurebird, You asked avery interesting question. I found out from a Harris Survey (1999) (http://www.harris.com/view_pressrelease.asp?act=lookup&pr_id=680) that there is a large percentage of the population that *thinks* they could "live comfortably without 20th century technology" (41% of the nation, 52% of Californians). However, fewer actually live by choice without these appliances. Living Without Refrigirator: It seems that there are significantly less people who choose to live without a fridge than people who live without television by choice. Actually, 57% of the people surveyed by the AHAM (American Home Appliances Manufacturers) listed the fridge as an object they could not do without (see: http://www.aham.org/infobytes/infobytesitem.cfm?Item_ID=81). I also found no research done on the subject. As mentioned before in the notes, these people http://www.outyourbackdoor.com/OYB8/fridge.html promote living without television. It mentions the publication Kokopelli Notes, which I found out, is published by the Kokopelli Council (c/o Patrick Clark, P.O. Box 8186, Asheville 28814; 704/683-4844), and "Promotes and explores self-propelled lifestyles" they also conduct public events, where you can contact the people you're looking for (I guess that if you'll publish an ad in their "Notes" asking for people who live without TV out of a choice to contact you, you'll get responce). This is another eco-minded person living without fridge - http://www.newint.org/issue251/endpiece.htm Another type of people, related, are Y2K people - a bit suspicious of technology and prefer to live without it. You can also contact the woman featured there, who ditched her fridge because of Y2K fear : http://www.sonic.net/y2k/nogrid.html (contact details are there - I do not give personal contact details). The magazine where this story was published is http://fic.ic.org/cmag/ and you may also want to advertise there to seek people who prefer to live without a fridge. This person had eating disorders and decided to live without a fridge so she can't raid one - http://www.something-fishy.org/reach/otherside_julie.php From what I understood, once she was a bit recovered, she got one. I also found non-Americans, Australians, who live without a fridge (http://members.ozemail.com.au/~beverleypaine/bungala/lwaf.html). These people are also promoters of ecological life. They live in a remote farm, but actually note "Not having a fridge is made easier by living within twenty minutes walking distance to the supermarket and butcher." (i.e. living in the city). More green-minded non-fridge owners are featured in this story - http://jerrapark.com/mysite/my_site-anita.html (they are also Australians :-). From an economic perspective, I can tell you from my experience that some apartments in Tokyo have no fridge because it takes so much space and the rent is so high. You may also add people who live in hotels - some hotel rooms do not contain a fridge: "Americans living in hotel rooms or boarding houses have the least access of all...[to telephones] (Belinfante 1989)" (in Reina-Schement's (1996)). Living without TV: In the case of television, there are much more people living without the machine, some of them (as you noted) of religious reasons, but surprisingly - that's not a main charcteristic. According to a non-academic, popular *religious* web-site (Mujahid, 2002), the estimation of families living without TV (out of choice) is 3 million. There's no breakdown as to the reasons of living without TV (religious, economical, etc.). See http://www.soundvision.com/Info/parenting/tvalternatives.asp tvturnoff.org organization provides facts and figures on Americans living without television sets. Specifically, according to a survey conducted by Brocks (2000), the families who live by choice without television have higher education and upper-middle class lifestyle - you can read the whole charachteristics here - http://www.tvturnoff.org/brock1.htm, for copywrite reasons I don't copy it all, but it is very interesting (for me, at least). According Reina-Schement's (1996) interesting research (discussing Americans living without telephone), "...people living without television or radio might appear rebellious, or to be adopting an alternative lifestyle." (see: http://www.benton.org/Library/Universal/Working1/working1.html). Search Terms: living without refrigerator americans living without television americans life without fridge "no fridge" own "no fridge" living live without refrigerator I hope that my answer helped a little, feel free to contact me with any further questions. | |
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Re: no refrigerator and/or television *by choice* ?
From: omniscientbeing-ga on 08 Jun 2002 09:24 PDT |
I don't think there are too many people who live without a refridgerator by choice. Even people who only eat in restaraunts and never cook, still maintain refridgerators at home for beverages--you don't want to have to go to a restaraunt or store every time you want something to drink when you get up in the morning. I would say the sans-fridge-by-choice % of people in the world is negligible. Now TV, that's diffrent. I myself went without a TV for quite some time, by choice. I'm sure there are a substantial number of people who live without TVs by choice (even though they can afford them), as opposed to refridgerators. Computers and even stereo systems are a substitute for TV for many people these days, esp. with large screen monitors and DVD players with surround-sound speakers. As for stats on this, I don't have time to work on that right now, but if it is still unanswered I might try to find out later. Good luck! |
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Re: no refrigerator and/or television *by choice* ?
From: mvguy-ga on 10 Jun 2002 08:41 PDT |
Here's at least one person who has no refrigerator by choice: http://www.outyourbackdoor.com/OYB8/fridge.html |
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Re: no refrigerator and/or television *by choice* ?
From: chromedome-ga on 10 Jun 2002 20:26 PDT |
I have no specific stats to offer you, especially about urban areas. However, I can point you to the website of long-time back to the land magazine "The Mother Earth News." They frequently publish articles about off-grid living, which may contain points of interest to you, in their "Homesteading," "Energy," "Building," and "Do It Yourself" areas. These articles frequently include links to other related material and sites, especially in the sidebars. I include links below for some current articles which may be pertinent: http://www.motherearthnews.com/homesteading/home186.offgrid.shtml http://www.motherearthnews.com/energy/# http://www.motherearthnews.com/energy/energy172.batt.shtml Tomorrow, as opportunity permits, I will try to find information more directly pertinent to your inquiry. |
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Re: no refrigerator and/or television *by choice* ?
From: saritonin-ga on 11 Jun 2002 21:56 PDT |
The following organization actively condones a "TV turnoff week", complete with commercials on CNN to advertise the week and poster campaigns. The past year's turnoff week ran April 22-28. Also included on the site are accounts from previous years' campaigns. http://adbusters.org/campaigns/tvturnoff/ |
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Re: no refrigerator and/or television *by choice* ?
From: libronaut-ga on 12 Jun 2002 11:44 PDT |
This is not an *answer* because I could not, for the life of me, find relevant facts on refrigerator ownership in the US (but a great deal on developing nations...go figure.) However, I have found television ownership stats: Turn off your TV [http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/] "By the start of the year 1993, 98% of U.S. households own at least one TV set, 64% have two or more sets." -- Advertising Age TV Basics [http://www.tvb.org/tvfacts/tvbasics/basics1.html] Total households in US: 107,400,000 Total households with TV: 105,500,000 % TV ownership 98.2 You might be able to find refrigerator stats in Advertising Age or another trade publication as a matter of fact; I tried the Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers website (http://www.applicance.com) but didn't find anything. |
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Re: no refrigerator and/or television *by choice* ?
From: alexis-ga on 12 Jun 2002 18:39 PDT |
I don't have statistics, but I can point to a couple of religious groups: Many Orthodox Jews refuse to own a television because of what is broadcast on TV. They are particularly concerned with children's exposure to television. Some may have a TV and only use it to watch tapes or DVDs that they deem acceptable, but many refuse to have one at all. The Amish also don't have TV, because it runs on electricity. I believe that they now have refrigerators, though, since they can be run on bottled gas. (The concern with electricity is the wires connecting the Amish to the "outside".) |
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Re: no refrigerator and/or television *by choice* ?
From: hybridpress-ga on 13 Jun 2002 19:43 PDT |
My friend co-wrote a book called "Get A Life" which posits the arguement that living without TV is completely feasible and many people are choosing to "tune out". Check out her website: http://whitedot.org/issue/iss_front.asp |
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Re: no refrigerator and/or television *by choice* ?
From: neilzero-ga on 13 Nov 2002 14:26 PST |
Likely we can only get rough estimates as some people have multiple reasons for what they do, and may not be fully aware of their motives. I've done without TV and fridge several times and hardly missed the TV at all. Fridge was difficult as I am very fond of ice cream. I think that much of the TV programming, especially the news, is destructive to society and tends to make me excessively cynical, producing thoughts of revenge and other violence. I am moderately religious so I cannot say my views are independent of religion even though I believe they stand logically without the aid of religion. Since the electric power grid is still vulnerable to a large scale disaster, it is prudent to have a supply of non-perishable food on hand, but that does not mean we can't keep 2 days supply in a fridge and freezer. Neil |
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