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Subject: problems facing well-qualified YOUNG persons
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Posted: 22 May 2003 08:49 PDT
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The vast majorty of well-qualified young people entering any industry
will most likely face a lot of problems from their old and experienced
superiors who will reject them or at least ignore them.
I need a list of web sites that address this problem and give hints in
how to deal with such a situation.
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Subject: Re: problems facing well-qualified YOUNG persons
Answered By: umiat-ga on 22 May 2003 10:59 PDT
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Hello, infoseekerr-ga!


 Showing respect and a willingness to listen to your boss and your
your co-workers is the quality that will get you the farthest in the
workplace. If are respectful, and present yourself as one who is
patient and willing to listen, you will have no problem getting others
to listen to your innovative, fresh ideas! Remember, others like to be
heard first. If you can give them that opportunity, they will then
step back and listen to you!


 With that said, it really doesn't matter if your boss is young or
old! They want to be respected for their authority (even if you think
you know more than them!) Therefore, if you can learn the essentials
to getting along in the workplace, you will have conquered the
greatest barrier to getting your ideas heard.


 Here are some references that deal with getting along with your boss
and creating an atmosphere of acceptance for your ideas.


===========================
Getting Along With the Boss 
===========================


"The Insider's Guide To Getting Along With Your Boss."
http://about-the-web.com/shtml/reports/09-006.shtml


"Regardless of what you think of your boss, the first thing you should
learn is his style of supervising."

"This does not mean becoming a ""yes" man and always siding with your
boss no matter how dumb a mistake he makes, or how big a fool he makes
of himself. Your boss may appreciate such blind devotion, but unless
you are willing to drop anchor and never advance up the corporate
ladder, you also need to know when to put some distance between your
immediate supervisor, and the powers that be, because if your boss
really goofs-up - you may be shown the door at the same time your boss
is!"

"You should give your boss the feeling of confidence that you're a
team player and you want to be the one he or she can depend on to make
his or her job easier. You should try to figure out what your boss's
goals are, then help him to reach those goals through your
contributions as a good employee."

"If you can master the all important "people skills," someday you may
enjoy the power and prestige of being the boss, and enjoying all the
perks and other trappings of being in charge."


==


"Getting Along With the Boss," by Roger Fulton. Reprint Protection
News. (May 2001)
http://www.ifpo.org/articlebank/getting_along_with_boss.htm


"Never embarrass the boss - NEVER !

"Many embarrassing situations are caused because the boss doesn't know
about something, and therefore isn't prepared to handle it in front of
peers, superiors, or the press. Your foresight in warning your boss of
potentially embarrassing situations can go a long way to building a
strong and trusting relationship, especially if you aren't the cause
of the potential embarrassment."


==


"Maintaining a Good Working Relationship with Your Boss," by Bernie
Milano. SmartPros.
http://www.smartpros.com/x12194.xml 


"As a recent college graduate, one essential aspect of your new life
in the working world is your relationship with your superior. He or
she plays a crucial role in your development as a businessperson, and
they will no doubt be one of the people you'll remember for the rest
of your career - no matter how many others follow. The way in which
you interact with this new, highly influential person will affect your
working life a great deal. You'll soon realize, too, that while it's
important to get along well with everyone in your office, it's
especially important to get along well with your boss."



=========================
Getting Your Ideas Across
========================= 

"Reach Your Career Goals By Managing Your Boss," by Teri R. Fisher.
Career Journal. Wall Street Journal.com (2003)
http://www.careerjournal.com/myc/climbingladder/20020424-fisher.html 


"Are you having trouble getting your manager to buy into your ideas?
You can't put your finger on the problem. All you know is you're not
getting credit for what you do right and you're being overlooked for
plum assignments."

"If this scenario sounds familiar, the problem may be your inability
to communicate with your boss on his or her terms. This is what's
known as a failure to "manage up."

"Managing up is strategically working with the style and goals of
another, blending them with your styles and goals to achieve results
and accomplish your career objectives. In other words, you need to
speak the same language and to focus on the factors that matter to the
person you want to influence."

"This is essential to career success regardless of your position in a
company. No matter how high up the ladder you are, at some point,
you'll come across a boss or client who's difficult to relate to or
influence."

(Read more....)


==


"Why Doesn't My Boss Like My Ideas?"by Barbara Reinhold. Career Coach
http://editorial.careers.msn.com/articles/myideas/


"DEAR COACH: I'm a guy with a zillion great ideas, and I know our
company could be more successful if my boss would just listen to me
more often. Sometimes he looks away when I'm bubbling over with a
great suggestion. I'm trying to figure out how to keep his attention
so he can see what I'm trying to do. Do you have any ideas for me?


DEAR DAVE: "There are obviously two ways to look at solving your
problem. One is to look at you and the way you're putting your ideas
forward. The second is to ask some hard questions about the degree to
which your boss welcomes new ideas. Or perhaps this is a two-way deal,
partly about the telling and partly about the listening."

"First, let's look at you. People with lots of great new ideas are
often better at thinking stuff up than at persuading others to join
with them. There was a "what's wrong with this jerk?" tone to your
complaints about your boss that could be the tip of the iceberg. If
you're presenting your ideas to your boss in this impatient, somewhat
self-congratulatory tone, it's no wonder he's not listening very
intently."

"I'd try to have a conversation in a private place where you'll have
your boss's full attention and ask him something like this: "You know,
I hope you understand I really have the company's best interests in
mind when I share my ideas with you. But somehow I don't seem to be
very effective at communicating. So I wonder if you could give me some
feedback about whether it's the ideas themselves, the quality or sheer
quantity of them, or something about how I share them that seems to be
getting in the way here." That should invite him to let you know how
you're being perceived and hopefully open the door for better
communication."

"And then there's your boss and his role in this standoff. For
instance. did you know that in one study more than 80 percent of
successful entrepreneurs interviewed told researchers that they first
offered the idea for their company to their bosses but were turned
away? Maybe your boss is just a status-quo guy who is not adventurous
enough to know a great idea when he sees it. If that's the case, you
may never be successful with him."


==

"Boss Management - Get Your Ideas Across For The Boss." Thorny
Questions. Work 911
http://www.work911.com/articles/bossmgt.htm

Question: 

"My boss isn't particularly receptive to new ideas regarding how to
improve things around here.  I have tried to approach her several
times with very practical improvement ideas, and one time she just
seemed bored and uninterested, the other time she started shaking her
head after the first sentence I said, and was very unhelpful. Many of
us here want to make things better, but it's just like running into a
brick wall.  Is there way to make her listen?"

Answer:  

"The short answer is NO. Actually, the long answer is NO, too. You
can't make her listen so you need to make it worthwhile for her to
listen, from HER perspective.Think of yourself as a very low-pressure
salesperson.  When you approach the boss with a good idea you need to
state right at the beginning, how that idea will help her.Next time
you want to approach her, take a few minutes to answer the question
"What is driving my boss nuts". Now, figure out how your idea will
reduce her frustration.  That's what you start with."

(Read further for example)


==

Read the following article (no title) adapted from Anita Bruzzese
-"Take This Job and Thrive."
http://www.contentforcareers.com/preview_content.php?item=2327


"You've got a great idea - you're fairly bursting with the news that
this brilliant concept will not only save the company time, but money
as well.

But wait a minute. Who are you going to tell? Are you going to tell? 

Maybe you're worried the idea will sink like the Titanic once
management begins to pick it apart, so you decide to keep it to
yourself. But you start to feel bitter about it, and then after a
while, you start cursing management and the company under your breath.
You're dead in the water at the company, you think, and might as well
move on.

No, wait! 

It could be that you simply don't know how to persuade those in charge
to listen to you. There is, however, a way to become more persuasive
in your work life - and the greatest benefit is that this is a skill
that can benefit your personal life as well.


(Read on....)



=============
Buy Some Help!
==============

"Learn Techniques To Get Your Boss to Take Your Ideas More Seriously."
Work 911.
http://www.work911.com/products/i-cboss.htm

"Everyone with a boss sometimes experiences frustration in getting the
boss to listen to ideas, and even answer important questions. Whether
it's discussing a raise, or getting the boss to consider a great idea
you might have, it's the same issue. Are there ways to approach the
boss so the chances of "getting through" are improved. The answer is
yes, and you can learn how in about 20 minutes by making use of this
helpcard."

 How do you make what you have to say relevant and IMPORTANT to your
boss?
 How can you use what you know about your boss to get him or her to
sit up
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 How do you present a balanced argument to increase your credibility?
 How do you react if the boss rejects my request or suggestion? 
 your boss

Cost of HelpCard - $12.95


===

"Want to Motivate Everyone?" by Jay Arthur.
http://www.qimacros.com/motivate.html

Do you ever have trouble...

getting people to do their job? 
getting your ideas across to people-friends, family, co-workers? 
getting your boss, peers, spouse or teens to listen? 
resolving conflict? 
implementing change 

Ordering Information:
https://www.qimacros.com/orderknow.html#N170


========================
Join a Discussion Forum
========================


"Difficult People Discussion List" by Robert Bacal. Work911.
http://www.articles911.com/Difficult_People/Discussion_Lists/

"The Dealing With Difficult People discussion list is a forum for
getting help, offering help or discussing issues related to dealing
with difficult or hostile people, whether they be employees,
co-workers, customers, or bosses. Click, send email to subscribe."


==


"Communication In The Workplace Discussion Forum."
http://www.workhelp.org/details/communicatingintheworkplace.htm 

"Some studies suggest that we spend more time communicating in the
workplace than doing other things. This forum is a place for you to
share your expertise and get help with all aspects of communication at
work. What might that include?

Manager --> employee communication..... 

(Click on link to view forum)


==


 I hope these references provide some help. If you need further
clarification, please don't hesitate to ask and I will help if I can!


umiat-ga

Google Search Stratey
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Request for Answer Clarification by infoseekerr-ga on 22 May 2003 12:40 PDT
dear umiat-ga,
Thanks for your quick answer but I think that I didn't make my
question clear, let me put it this way: Problems facing recent college
graduates who have just entered the working world
I didn't ask why bosses don't like new ideas. Thanks again 

regards,

Clarification of Answer by umiat-ga on 22 May 2003 17:32 PDT
I am not sure exactly what you are asking. I understand you are
talking about young people entering the work force.

 You stated, in your original question that these young people "will
most likely face a lot of problems from their old and experienced
superiors who will reject them or at least ignore them." Therefore, I
have focused on the major problems young employees will face from
older co-workers, including the boss, which are primarilyy a lack of
respect for the new employee, and an overall disrespect for the new
employee's ideas.
  
 This can happen with the boss or with older coworkers. Either way,
the same suggestions apply.

Now, you have restated your question to ask about "Problems facing
recent college graduates who have just entered the working world."
Again, as coupled with your first question, I assume this applies to
issues of respect, getting your boss and experienced coworkers to take
you seriously, etc.

Is there something that I am missing, here? The references I have
given you, along with general forum discussions, deal with these
issues.

Since your question focuses on older, more experienced workers in the
office, I cannot imagine what types of other problems you are
anticipating. If you can give me a clear example, I will try to tackle
this a different way.

umiat

Request for Answer Clarification by infoseekerr-ga on 23 May 2003 04:04 PDT
What I wanted you to explore is the types of problems that will face
recent college graduates who just entered the working world..these
graduates are more qualified than people who are already in the
working place, however, obviously, they are lacking experience..What
sorts of conflicts that would arise if they are, lets say, put in
charge of more experienced and older ppl?

Clarification of Answer by umiat-ga on 23 May 2003 07:43 PDT
infoseekerr-ga!

 Your clarification is much clearer now, and I will certainly try to
compile some information for you. However, I must say I definitely
disagree with your premise that college graduates are "more qualified"
than their older counterparts. Yes, they may have just graduated, and
in some cases, have learned some "newer" ideas or technology,
depending on their field.....but most good employees stay on top of
their field, stay abreast of the current knowledge, and that, coupled
with experience (as you mentioned), usually beats the pants off the
new graduate! My 83-year old father probably knows more than any new
financial accountant graduating today, and my 52-year old engineering
brother constantly bemoans the lack of knowledge (not experience)
displayed by younger engineers just out of school.

 So, just off the top of my head.....the first tip would have to be:

1. Treat your superiors as though they are more qualified than you :)

 As mentioned in my first answer...
 
"Never embarrass the boss - NEVER ! 
 
"Many embarrassing situations are caused because the boss doesn't know
about something, and therefore isn't prepared to handle it in front of
peers, superiors, or the press. Your foresight in warning your boss of
potentially embarrassing situations can go a long way to building a
strong and trusting relationship, especially if you aren't the cause
of the potential embarrassment."

===

 I will now go ahead and try to compile a new answer. However,
learning to get along with your boss and co-workers is STILL going to
be the Primary problem, and I can't ignore the most important issue.
 
umiat-ga

Clarification of Answer by umiat-ga on 23 May 2003 12:19 PDT
Hello again, infoseekerr-ga!

 I hope I have answered your question more directly. I have searched
from several angles and tried to touch on the points you made in your
clarification.
I did not find any articles that provided a firm, concise answer to
the actual conflicts arising from a situation where a new graduate is
put in charge of older employees, but what I did find certainly fits
the bill.

=

Your revised question:

What I wanted you to explore is:

1. the types of problems that will face recent college graduates who
just entered the working world. these graduates are more qualified
than people who are already in the working place, however, obviously,
they are lacking experience..

2. What sorts of conflicts that would arise if they are, lets say, put
in
charge of more experienced and older ppl?



=========================================================================

Types of problems facing recent college graduates entering the work
world

==========================================================================


From "Transition: College to Career." Wartburg College
http://www.wartburg.edu/careers/transition.html


Starting at the bottom again!
===========================

"What a shock it can be to discover that the new graduate once again
drops to "freshman" status at the bottom of the rung."


==


Less tolerance for absences, mistakes and underperformance:
==========================================================

 "The difficulty is that the real world is less tolerant of mistakes,
offers less time and flexibility for adjustment, and demands
performance for the pay it offers."

"College life offers incredible flexibility in how you spend your
time. Many students avoid morning courses like the plague, stay up
till 3:00 a.m. most nights, cut classes and get notes from their
friends, and goof off for weeks at a time, then work at a frenzied
pace to finish the term in decent shape. If you had a tendency to
follow this sort of schedule in college, forget it."

"First of all, you can't cut work. If your starting time is 8:30 a.m.,
you are advised to arrive early and alert. Excuses for tardiness or
absences will not be appreciated, and recurring behavior of this type
will result first in a negative image, then in a dismissal."

"The workplace will not care that you are "not a morning person." It
will not be interested in your late night escapades, or the fact that
your car would not start. You are expected to be punctual and ready to
perform at the start of the day."

"Even if you get more done in six hours than others do in ten, you
will be punished for tardiness."
 

==


No more sweatpants and torn t-shirts!
======================================

"In the workplace, image becomes much more important than it was in
college. This seems superficial to many graduates, particularly those
with a penchant for rebelliousness, but there are reasons for the
importance of image. Many of the first impressions you make will be
based upon image and these impressions affect how you are viewed
within your organization, by clients or other outside contacts. These
impressions project an image of your entire organization. Image should
not be treated lightly."

"A major part of image is how you dress and groom for the job.
Clothing is important! Your attire is one of the first things people
will notice about you and you must pay attention to it."


==


Your boss is not your "friendly college professor"!
=================================================

 Unlike your professors, who were encouraging, open to debate, and
helped to keep you on task..........your boss "will often send you to
get the answers, will discourage arguments, will be vague as to how to
complete a task, and will often come up with last minute assignments,
unclear priorities, and vague directions. The sooner you accept this
change from professor to boss, the greater your chance at success."
 
"Your boss controls a great deal of what can happen to you during your
first year. If you come into the organization with a willing attitude,
demonstrate poise and maturity, and work well with others, you will
begin to be chosen for the better assignments. If you fight the
system, grunt work will become your specialty. The more you complain
about it, the more the boss will pile it on. The more enthusiastically
you complete the grunt assignments, the more quickly you'll be moved
into the better ones."

"Accepting all this requires you to take on a realistic perspective
regarding the world of work and how it differs from college."


==


Be prepared to make your boss look good!
=======================================


 "This means completing work on time and with excellent quality,
acting like a professional at all times, and maintaining a positive
attitude. If you regularly do what you can to make your boss look good
you are already progressing in the right direction."

"Your boss is expected to train and develop you, not to become your
best friend. Don't expect to form a buddy relationship with this
person, and it is not recommended to use her as the sounding board for
your personal or financial problems. Too much awareness of these
problems can affect her view of your maturity, professionalism, and
competence. Not all of us handle our personal lives as well as our
jobs, and they should be kept separate."


==


Dealing with a boss who is "a loser" (or one who knows less than
you!!!)
=======================================================================


"Suppose you're working for a good organization but got stuck with a
"lousy" boss. She is demanding, unreasonable, poor at training, and
everyone agrees that she's going nowhere. Remember your goal is to
move up, and you will not have this boss forever. The idea is to
perform and learn as best you can so that you can be promoted out from
under her. There are intolerable bosses, to be sure, but many college
graduates either quite prematurely or dig themselves into an
irreparable hole through negative attitude and weak performance under
circumstances to which they overreact. Your initial boss is not
forever, and if you can survive a year with a particularly tough boss,
that alone can be viewed as a feather in your cap. Before you lose
your temper or take any rash steps that could jeopardize your career
with the organization, take time to think things through."


==


Getting along with cut-throat, jealous, competitive co-workers!
===============================================================


Remember.....

 "You and your peers are working for the same organization with the
objective of helping the organization fulfill its mission. That is why
they are paying you. In order to function effectively you must be able
to work well with others. You will be continually called upon to
engage in teamwork to get a task or project completed. At the same
time, you are competing with these peers for recognition and
advancement."

=

Don't be surprised if some of your co-workers try to put you down, or
even try to get you fired......

 "Inevitably..you will come across some people who insist on playing
games. They may think they are masters of manipulation, and they will
deceive others, take credit for ideas not their own, attempt to use
personal relations in place of job performance, misrepresent their
real influence of power, etc. Obviously such co-workers cannot be
trusted, but you must also be careful around them for they can be
vicious enemies. Such deceptive tactics will sooner or later cause
their downfall, so don't let such people discourage you or bring you
down with them."

=

Don't bare your soul!
====================

 "Don't use co-workers as confidants. A peer may someday be your boss,
or you may be his. Laying out all your feelings, fears, anger,
emotions, dreams, etc. to a colleague can come back to bite you when
you least expect it. Your innermost feelings should be saved for those
who are outside the organization.

 "Unlike college where you can add and drop acquaintances at the drop
of a hat, job-related relationships must go on even when two people
may have little in common personally."


==

Don't expect you co-workers to treat you as the "King"
=====================================================

"Many new hires have the idea that an army of subordinates will be on
hand to perform all sorts of undesirable tasks. Unfortunately (for a
new hire), this is rarely the case. In fact, it is often the entry
level college graduate who is asked to photocopy reports, deliver
memos, proofread documents, tally columns of numbers, and even run
errands. The better your attitude at handling these chores, the sooner
you advance out of them. They are all a part of "learning the ropes."

==


Everything you do will affect your "grade"!
==========================================

"Results in the workplace are cumulative, and memories are long.
Unlike school where terms end, the workplace performance carries over
because it is based so much on the opinions of others. It is not only
your boss' opinion, but those of others that can have an effect on
your career, so your objective is to be regarded as highly as possible
by as many people as possible. A negative slate is not wiped clean."

"Many new college graduates are frustrated by the lack of grading they
have been used to for sixteen or more years. This is a major
adjustment to be made in entering the workplace. Grading on the job is
rare, but your performance is being continually assessed in less
formal manners so you need to be sensitive to this at all times. Good
performance with occasional lapses is viewed as a lack of
dependability.


==

"If you think grading in college is often unfair, wait until you find
that a single two minute encounter with a client can color your
evaluation for an entire year."

"Your boss will be your evaluator, and your organization may or may
not call for systematic performance appraisals. Regardless, much of
what comes out of the evaluation will be based upon attitude,
interpersonal skills, cooperativeness, and reliability."

"Almost any evaluation will include some criticism of your performance
or behavior. View this as your road map of where to direct some of
your efforts. You might find that your boss' priorities don't match
your own, but that is not cause for argument. Pay heed to your
priorities, but make sure you work on those suggested by your boss."


==


Be Aware of the "One Minute Manager!"
====================================


From "Face it, Your Boss is a Rat," by John Sheppler. John
Sheppler.com
http://www.johnshepler.com/articles/ratboss.html


 It would behoove new college graduates who long for white-collar jobs
to be aware of the new strategy being employed in the corporate world
called the "One Minute Manager." A new employee caught in this
scenario can quickly lose their self-esteem if they are not savvy to
their boss's strategy. In short, it is a strategy that is designed to
move problems away from the boss and on to the employee.


"Management has a Holy Grail and it is known as "the silver bullet,"
also called the quick fix. It's epitomized in a small, thin book
called "The One Minute Manager" by Kenneth Blanchard, Ph.D. (piled
higher and deeper) and Spencer Johnson, M.D. (mostly deeper.) The
theme of "The One Minute Manager" is that business people, especially
managers, spend way too much time mulling over problems, internalizing
them, and debating on what to do next. Much better, proposed Blanchard
and Johnson, to jump in, collect all the facts that are at your
fingertips or can be coaxed out of your subordinates, and make a snap
decision in one minute or less."

"Actually, the primary decision is which employees can best be made to
take ownership of the problem, strategically moving the burning acid
of responsibility from your stomach to theirs.

"If things improve, you allocate no more than one more minute to tell
them how great they are doing."

"If the situation deteriorates, you allocate that same minute to
making darn sure that they feel terrible about it and will work even
harder to keep the problem from returning to you."

** "The toll of one minute everything is burning out once naive and
eager employees, anxious for their leg up the corporate ladder." **

 
 Knowing that your boss may be using this tactic can leave you better
prepared to handle possible work scenarios!



			****************************




======================================================================

How to be a good employee even if you think you are "more qualified!"

=====================================================================


Lose the arrogance!
===================


From "Transition: College to Career." Wartburg College
http://www.wartburg.edu/careers/transition.html

"Too frequently the new college graduate arrives on the scene and
treats the hourly secretaries, sales clerks, production workers,
technical aides, etc. as personal subordinates. If you fall into this
pattern you will probably jeopardize your potential to succeed. Hourly
employees are very well attuned to the arrogance of many new college
graduates, and if they sense this arrogance in you they can respond in
ways to make your life miserable. Never act in a condescending or
superior manner to those with less education or lower positions. It is
just not right, and it will scuttle you."

"Let's take an example of how this can happen. A management trainee at
a large retail store is put in charge of the small appliance
department. He arrives on the job and immediately lectures the lead
salesperson about how he is going to straighten up the department
(based upon college coursework and a summer job at another store.) The
lead salesperson has been in the department over twelve years, listens
to his lecture, and decides not to support him because of his
arrogance. That poor management trainee is in for a tough time because
of his lack of sensitivity, but the veteran salesperson will not
suffer at all."

"Treat all people well! Develop a reputation for being good to work
with. Before you try to order a secretary to bring you your coffee, or
drop a stack of papers on someone's desk and insist that it be copied
in five minutes, think about how you would like to be treated if the
situation were reversed."

"As a new hire, subordinates are not at your beck and call. Many of
them will have in their jobs for years, are highly valued employees,
and do not exist to cover the deficiencies in your background. They
will not correct all your spelling errors, or all the other first-time
errors you might make--unless they like you.


=========


Be willing to accept coaching 
=============================


From "Find Young Leaders or You Will Lose Them," by Michael Maccoby.
Research Technology Management; Volume 42. No. 1. January-February,
1999. pp 58-59.
http://www.maccoby.com/Articles/YoungLeaders.html

 
"The future leaders want results and are willing to argue with
authority and risk disapproval. Often, they believe they know more
than the boss. However, they will accept coaching when they need it."


==


Be willing to accept criticism even if think it is undeserved
======================================================================


From "From "Getting Along With Your Boss," by: Kenneth E. Strong, Sr.
Lighthouse Continuing Care University.
http://www.ccuniv.org/Departments/HumanResources/gettingalongwithyourboss.asp

"Inability to accept constructive criticism or advice from supervisors
and co-workers alike is a serious handicap. If you do a slow burn
every time the boss points out your mistakes, he/she is bound to feel
uncomfortable about it, and is likely to resent your attitude. After
all, guiding and correcting your work is part of his/her job. Listen
to what he or she tells you, apply his/her suggestions to what you are
doing. Temperamental workers, no matter how brilliant, are something
most bosses would rather do without."

==


Don't let older co-workers intimidate you. Don't try to show them up,
either!
=============================================================================


From "Becoming Your Employer’s MVP," by Bernie Erven. Department of
Agricultural, Environmental and Development Economics. Ohio State
University.
http://www-agecon.ag.ohio-state.edu/resources/docs/pdf/73318E0B-ABB6-4E11-B5B238A8607D8941.pdf

 
"Don't allow more experienced or older co-workers to intimidate you.
Remember that you were hired for a reason. You are there because you
deserve to be there."


"Don't show up long-term employees. As a new person on the block, it
is sometimes tempting to show senior employees how much you know and
can do. What an easy way to lose their support



If you do know more than your boss or your older coworkers, don't
flaunt it!
============================================================================


From "Getting Along With Your Boss," by: Kenneth E. Strong, Sr.
Lighthouse Continuing Care University.
http://www.ccuniv.org/Departments/HumanResources/gettingalongwithyourboss.asp


"Everybody wants to get ahead on the job, of course, but if you aim to
do it by demonstrating to everybody else that you know more about the
business than your boss does, watch out. In the first place, you
probably don't, and in the second place, you'll find that no one,
including your boss's boss, appreciates a worker who constantly goes
over his/her supervisor's head or tries to show him or her up. If you
buck your boss at every turn, downgrade his confidence and generally
make his/her life miserable, be prepared to lose when the showdown
comes.


===


If you are making more money than your co-workers, and possibly even
more than your supervisor...be sensitive, and don't broadcast the
fact!
==============================================================================


To understand the perspective from the other side, read:

"The Managerial Inferiority Complex," by Penelope Trunk. Business
2.0(October 2002)
http://www.business2.com/articles/mag/0,1640,43541,00.html
 
Question: "I just found out that one of my subordinates gets paid more
than I do. That doesn't seem to make any sense. What can I do about
this injustice?"

Read more......


===


 Finally.......if you DO know more than your boss, and REALLY want to
get ahead...do it the right way!

Read "How to Get Your Boss' Job," by Ray Martin. The Early Show.
(8/21/2002)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/08/20/earlyshow/contributors/raymartin/main519244.shtml


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 Again, I sincerely hope this covers the bases! 


umiat-ga 
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Clarification of Answer by umiat-ga on 23 May 2003 14:25 PDT
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Thank you!
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