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Subject:
History of the word "geek"
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: zpatch-ga List Price: $25.00 |
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24 May 2003 12:44 PDT
Expires: 25 May 2003 18:18 PDT Question ID: 208158 |
When (and where) did the word geek become popular as an almost complementary description for a highly technical person/computer expert? The dictionary defines the term as describing a circus performer who bites the heads off chickens (probably from English dialect geek, geck fool, from Low German "geck," from Middle Low German), but the word today is worn as a badge of honor by techno-nerds. Can anyone find the first appearance of this new usage in the literature or online? |
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Re: History of the word "geek"
From: dr_chung-ga on 24 May 2003 16:53 PDT |
Hey zpatch-ga, According to the unrivalled Oxford English Dictionary(http://dictionary.oed.com),one of the definitions of geek is "A person who is extremely devoted to and knowledgeable about computers or related technology.In this sense, esp. when as a self-designation, not necessarily depreciative." OED charts the birth of this word as follows: 1984 Bye in net.jokes (Usenet newsgroup) 20 Feb., I was a lonely young computer geek With a program due 'most every week. 1989 C. STOLL Cuckoo's Egg xlvi. 242 Why are you trying to catch some poor computer geek who's just fooling around? 1993 R. RUCKER et al. Mondo 2000 122/1 Geek is the proud, insider term for nerd. If you are not a dedicated techie, don't use this word. 2001 Independent 4 June II. 9/1 We're the nerds, the geeks, the dweebs: the men and women who can spend 20 hours straight contemplating 600 bytes of obscure, arcane, impenetrable computer code. So you got the answer for free!Good luck. Joe |
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Re: History of the word "geek"
From: darrel-ga on 24 May 2003 18:31 PDT |
"Geek It is commonly touted that geek originally meant a sideshow performer who bites the heads off chickens or snakes. While this is a sense of the word, it is not the original one. Geek is actually a very old word. It is a variant of geck, a term of Low German/Dutch origin that dates in English to 1511. It means a fool, simpleton, or dupe. Geck is even used by Shakespeare in Twelfth Night, V.i.: Why haue you suffer'd me to be imprison'd. And made the most notorious gecke and gull That ere inuention plaid on? The geek spelling is an American variation, even though Shakespeare uses the spelling geeke in Cymbeline V.iv., but this is probably just a misspelling. Geek first appears (outside the single Shakespearean usage) in 1876 America. American usage adds the connotation of offensive or undesirable to the original foolish and stupid sense. The Carnival sideshow sense appears in 1928." http://www.wordorigins.org/ "I consulted a few databases thanks to the online resources of my public library, where I can browse over 1,800 newspapers and magazines for the words "geek" or "nerd." Then I checked to see if the words were used in a negative or positive connotation. Again, this is not conclusive, but I came up with some interesting observations. The word "nerd" is used in a negative fashion, yet it is more akin to being brilliant. "Geek," on the other hand, tends for the longest time to be more of a term of derision. In the 1992 journal Progressive, "geek" was a word used by prison guards to insult the inmates. "Nerd" still held onto its techno-brainy allegory, with it acquiring status as a group moniker for high school students. Those newspapers I browsed which reported on the Columbine High School tragedy in April 1999 had students quoted as saying that the perpetrators were likened to "geeks." Sad commentary indeed, however another interesting phenomenon occurred in 1999-2000 that turned the tables. Yes, I'm referring to the Dot-Com Boom. In 1999-2001 nearly all of the publications I browsed had "geek" as a positive term, lauding the accomplishments of Web dignitaries such as Jeff Bezos and Marc Andreesen. More interesting was that during this period of 1999-2001 those articles which contained "nerd" used the word in a derogatory manner. Sure, not indicative, but interesting nonetheless. It's like I've always believed: economics rules the world. So, are we geeks now vindicated? Have we passed the test of time with our heads high, delighted to shout into our cellphones (complete with Web browsing and GPS capabilities, of course), "I'm a Geek, and damned proud of it!" This is probably the concept to describe Kevin, a student, quoted in the magazine Teen, July 1998" http://www.geek.com/features/name/ |
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Re: History of the word "geek"
From: kriswrite-ga on 24 May 2003 18:49 PDT |
Hello zpatch~ Here's what I discovered from my handy-dandy copy of "Partridges Concise Dictionary of Alng & Unconventional English" (Edited by Paul Beale, MacMillian Publishing Co., 1989): "GEEK. A (long) look: Aus. {Australian]: since WWI...'a geek at that book.'" May also derrive from the "German GUCKEN, to peep or peek; perhaps influenced by the Cornish dial. [dialect] GEEK, to look intently at." This could easily lead to calling someone who is learned a "geek." "...the lowest form of carnival performer, perhaps one who is merely stared at." Again, this leads us easily to someone who is well learned in a field that many are not. Hope this helps a little, Kriswrite |
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