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I'm having one now
Category: Reference, Education and News > Current Events Asked by: badabing-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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25 May 2003 13:41 PDT
Expires: 24 Jun 2003 13:41 PDT Question ID: 208569 |
...but I can't spell it. what's the origin of a "knipshen fit" and is it a Yiddish word like a "knish" or German like "knockwurst" or neither? now, don't go knocking yourselves out cause granny has but $2 to spend today. thank you kindly, GB |
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Re: I'm having one now
Answered By: clouseau-ga on 25 May 2003 14:00 PDT Rated: ![]() |
Hello granny, Correct spelling is "conniption" and as noted on this blog: http://gradstud0.tripod.com/ Pronunciation: k&-'nip-sh&n Function: noun Etymology: origin unknown : a fit of rage, hysteria, or alarm "went into conniptions" Bartleby's notes: http://www.bartleby.com/62/17/C0311750.html conniption fit NOUN: Informal. An angry outburst: fit2, huff, passion, tantrum, temper. Informal : conniption. See FEELINGS. A message board on words has this to say: http://ransford.org/pipermail/word-l/2002-December/000158.html "The word of the day is: conniption \con-NIP-shun\, n. Origin: unkown to OED. * Hysteria; a hysterical fit. The OED mentions that it considers "conniption" to be "U.S. vulgar," which I'm sure it doesn't mean as any sort of insult. "Conniption fit" is a common synonym of "conniption." I ran across this word a while ago while reading a "Survivor" wrapup on Salon.com: As the group reads its tree mail, they figure out that they're going to have to answer questions about the outback -- with help from their family members, online! Elisabeth has a conniption fit at the thought." And user smalin at the Well (Stephen Malinowski)has this to say about unknown word origins: http://www.well.com/user/smalin/unknown.html "Origin Unknown (words of unknown origin) Where do words come from? Most words are variations or combinations of words we knew already. This makes them easy to recognize and remember (and makes it easy to figure out where they came from). Some words created from scratch are coined by writers, which aids their popularization (and likewise makes it easier to determine the etymology). But most words of unknown origin have managed to make it into our vocabulary without either of these advantages. What kind of word can make it against such odds? As you'll see in the list below, many have the advantage of onomatopoeia. But more than that, these are words that you love to know, love to hear, love to say. I've given the dates of these words -- some from the Oxford English Dictionary, and some from the Merriam-Webster online dictionary (which is where you go if you click the "definition" button); these two sources don't always agree. Some of the dates are obvious, for example, that moola, pizzazz, snazzy, jazz and tizzy are all from the early 20th century. But there are some surprises. Who'd've guessed that things were nifty as early as 1868? Or that nobody had zits before 1966? Or that you could have taken a brief jaunt as long ago as 1570?..." conniption (1833) Who would have thought it? The Word Detective theorizes: http://www.word-detective.com/032602.html "Dear Word Detective: Despite polling many very expensively educated brains, no one can tell me the etymology of "conniption," as in "conniption fit." A friend of mine insists it's from the Yiddish, but I beg to differ! Please help. -- Name (sort of) Withheld, via the internet... ...A "conniption" or "conniption fit," as anyone who hangs out with excitable people knows, is an emotional explosion, "anxiety attack" or tantrum. Folks who are prone to "conniption fits" are most likely to have them whenever anything goes wrong, or even not exactly right. If you happen to find yourself in the vicinity of someone with a very red face who is shouting "Heads will roll!" or some variation thereon, you're witnessing a verifiable "conniption fit." Your friend's theory about "conniption" being of Yiddish origin is not absolutely impossible, but that's only because no one has yet been able to establish exactly where "conniption" did originate. It first showed up in English around 1833, and was defined in the 1848 "Dictionary of American English" as "a fainting fit," a common and harmless 19th century reaction to stress. Today, unfortunately, the conniption-prone are more likely to sue than swoon. One suggestion advanced as to the origin of "conniption" ventures that it may have arisen as a variation of or even a euphemism for "corruption" in the antiquated sense of "anger" or "temper." (This sense is found, for example, in Anne Bronte's 1848 "Tenant of Wildfell Hall": "I am no angel, and my corruption rises against it.") It may seem odd that "corruption" would have been a synonym for "anger," but this sense seems to be rooted in the use of "corruption" to mean "the evil side" or weaknesses of human nature..." And Picket Fence notes: http://www.geocities.com/PicketFence/7608/sayC.htm "Exact origin of conniption unknown.---Possible: In British folk lore conniptions were small furry animals that inhabited there homes. On seeing one of these creatures the lady of the house was likely to have a conniption fit." So, there you have it! Kind regards, -=clouseau=- |
badabing-ga
rated this answer:![]() well, hell fire, no wonder I couldn't find it. twern't even close. ya think a word that's been around since 1833, granny woulda learnt to spelt by now. had to laugh on the "heads will roll" line. granny had a boss who announced that almost daily. guess he was my "conniption cousin." this was just too delightful to read, inspector. thanks a bushelful of rolled heads. your excitable granny, GB |
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Re: I'm having one now
From: journalist-ga on 25 May 2003 14:08 PDT |
In the southern United States, it's also known as a hissy fit. |
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Re: I'm having one now
From: magnesium-ga on 25 May 2003 19:05 PDT |
Perhaps a good heading for Granny's question would be "All the fits that's news to print." :D |
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Re: I'm having one now
From: rileybirder-ga on 28 May 2003 19:02 PDT |
Clouseau, you continue to impress me. Great answer, although I would be courious to know if it's been used in recent cultural contexts, such as movies or novels, and how it was used. Maybe this would warrant another question. |
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Re: I'm having one now
From: clouseau-ga on 28 May 2003 19:37 PDT |
Thanks, rileybirder. I didn't do a thorough search on this one, and only came across the one current reference to Survivor. There may be more, but I would think the term rarely used.I'll keep an eye open and see what's out there. -=clouseau=- |
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Re: I'm having one now
From: clouseau-ga on 28 May 2003 19:59 PDT |
Here you go, rileybirder: http://www.shoestring.org/mmi_revs/going-all.html Going All the Way USA - 1997 Movie Review By Andrea Chase "...The guys, just discharged from the army, mark time wondering what to do with the rest of their lives, while living at home and coping with their mothers. Sonny's is a perky, pie-pusher. A woman so tightly wound around her Betty Crocker church-going brand of denial that Sonny's first reaction on arriving home is to retch violently. As for Gunnar's, she's a hip-swiveling, cocktail-swishing vamp of the sort that would send Sonny's mother into a first-class conniption fit..." http://rewards.artistdirect.com/store/movies/title/0,,2176448,00.html We Met On The Vineyard Running time: 88 minutes Genres: Comedy, Drama, Romance "...Julianna Margulies and Ivan Sergei star in this romantic comedy about a wedding gone awry when the bridegroom's recovering alcoholic brother reveals that he slept with the bride years previously. The revelation causes groom John to get cold feet and the bride's controlling mother Carol (Dixie Carter) to have a conniption fit. Can the resulting damage be mended? ~ Jonathan Crow, All Movie Guide" http://www.splicedonline.com/99reviews/bluestreak.html Jewel thief Lawrence poses as cop to get his loot back in funny but flawed 'Blue Streak' "...Release from jail two years later, he returns to the site only to discover it's become a police station and throws a hilarious curb-side conniption fit before composing himself and walking away, gears a-grinding on ways to get inside without arousing suspicion..." http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/americancollection/ponder/ntof_daniel.html Daniel and Bonnie Dee From The Ponder Heart by Eudora Welty excerpted from chapter 2 "...So -- that very day, after Uncle Daniel finished turning the tables and was just through telling us about it, and we were all having a conniption fit in here, Uncle Daniel moseyed down the street and in five minutes was inside the ten cent store. That was where he did all his shopping. He was intending to tell his story in there, I think, but instead of that, he was saying to the world in general and Bonnie Dec at the jewelry counter in particular, "I've got a great big house standing empty, and my father's Studebaker. Come on -- marry me." So there are just a few for you! -=clouseau=- |
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Re: I'm having one now
From: omnivorous-ga on 29 May 2003 08:39 PDT |
Clouseau -- Interesting sources for the word. I'd have guessed that it was a ruralism, as my mother (an Ohio farm girl) used it extensively. The last source that I'd have ever guessed would have been Yiddish. Best regards, Omnivorous-GA |
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