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Subject: "Physics"
Category: Science > Physics
Asked by: leloupe-ga
List Price: $5.00
Posted: 29 May 2003 07:58 PDT
Expires: 28 Jun 2003 07:58 PDT
Question ID: 210245
Calculating the elctron density distribution during a Monte Carlo simulation

Request for Question Clarification by hedgie-ga on 31 May 2003 04:21 PDT
Hello, Le Loupe

       Yes. Monte Carlo method can be used to calculate electron density.

        Kindly let me know  if that answers your question.

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      1) Tell us what you know.
           Your question deals with QM - a complex subject. Do you want
           answer on level of an interested laymen, college student, PhD,..?
       2) What is your goal?
         Is this to settle a bet, just curious, do you want to calculate
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      4) Do you have a particular system on mind?
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Clarification of Question by leloupe-ga on 02 Jun 2003 13:17 PDT
1. I am a post doc, using Qunatum Monte Carlo simulations.
2. How do you get the single electron densities from the probabilities
during the simulation.
Let's make an example:
We have two electrons, and a configuration during the walk is given by
Xi(1),Xi(2) and we simulate i=1...m walks.
The probability for the acceptance of this configuration is given by pi(1,2).
What is p(X1)?
My guess it would be 
p(X(1))=1/m * sum_i=1..m pi(X(1),Xi(2))
Is that correct?
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Subject: Re: "Physics"
Answered By: hedgie-ga on 03 Jun 2003 04:46 PDT
 
Well, yes.

That is much better question. 

How would this rate as an answer?
   
I would say yes.
However, it is a good practice to get some references
to confirm everything, so let's look if other people are
doing it this way:


 Here is a paper which shows contours of the electron density
 http://www.cr.org/publications/MSM2001/pdf/356.pdf
 but they do not give formula used.

Here is    paragraph from a thesis which confirms your guess:

 In this URL
     http://owen.sj.ca.us/rkowen/rkowen/qmc/pages/toc.html
you  click on
       5.2.8. 8.3 - Lithium One-Electron Densities
to get slide 82 with formula   - same as yours, nicely written.

You may want to check
http://plato.phy.ohiou.edu/~drabold/nato/node12.html
for computational/convergence considerations.

   Ideally, you are using some universal code, such as CASINO,
   which all such mundane formulas already programed  in, such as
  http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~jrt32/QMCgroup/qmc.html
 but you probably do.

 SEARCH TERMS
    QMC electron-density -functional

  (-functional is there to exclude DF papers)

good luck

hedgie
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