PLEASE help me sort these in TRUE CHRONOLOGICAL order, not just AIRING
order.
If the AIRING order is also the chronological order then let me know,
but no guessing, please.
What I need is to be able to put the right dvd with the right episode
in at the right time - some episodes are not related in buffy/angel
and I would just like to see those in a row without changeing to the
other series:

In Buffy, Oz leaves for LA with a ring - episode buffy x
In Angel Oz arrives with a ring - episode angel x
In Buffy, Spike leaves for LA to get the ring - episode buffy y
In Angel Spike arrives to get the ring - episode angel y
In Buffy Spike returns... - episode buffy z

Get the idea?

Thanks.

Here is the as far as I know canonical list sorted in airing order

057. 4-01 4ABB01 05101999   The Freshman 
001. 1-01 1ADH01 05101999   City Of Lonely Hearts (1)
058. 4-02 4ABB02 12101999   Living Conditions 
002. 1-02 1ADH02 12101999   City Of Lonely Hearts (2)
059. 4-03 4ABB03 19101999   The Harsh Light Of Day 
003. 1-03 1ADH03 19101999   In The Dark 
060. 4-04 4ABB04 26101999   Fear, Itself 
004. 1-04 1ADH04 26101999   I Fall To Pieces 
005. 1-05 1ADH05 02111999   Rm W/a Vu 
061. 4-05 4ABB05 02111999   Beer Bad 
006. 1-06 1ADH06 09111999   Sense & Sensitivity 
062. 4-06 4ABB06 09111999   Wild At Heart 
007. 1-07 1ADH07 16111999   Bachelor Party 
063. 4-07 4ABB07 16111999   The Initiative 
008. 1-08 1ADH08 23111999   I Will Remember You 
064. 4-08 4ABB08 23111999   Pangs 
009. 1-09 1ADH09 30111999   Hero 
065. 4-09 4ABB09 30111999   Something Blue 
010. 1-10 1ADH10 14121999   Parting Gifts 
066. 4-10 4ABB10 14121999   Hush 
067. 4-11 4ABB11 18012000   Doomed 
011. 1-11 1ADH11 18012000   Somnambulist 
012. 1-12 1ADH12 25012000   Expecting 
068. 4-12 4ABB12 25012000   A New Man 
069. 4-13 4ABB13 08022000   The I In Team 
013. 1-13 1ADH13 08022000   She 
070. 4-14 4ABB14 15022000   Goodbye Iowa 
014. 1-14 1ADH14 15022000   I've Got You Under My Skin 
071. 4-15 4ABB15 22022000   This Year's Girl 
015. 1-15 1ADH15 22022000   The Prodigal 
016. 1-16 1ADH16 29022000   The Ring 
072. 4-16 4ABB16 29022000   Who Are You? 
017. 1-17 1ADH17 04042000   Eternity 
073. 4-17 4ABB17 04042000   Superstar 
074. 4-18 4ABB18 25042000   Where The Wild Things Are 
018. 1-18 1ADH18 25042000   Five By Five 
075. 4-19 4ABB19 02052000   New Moon Rising 
019. 1-19 1ADH19 02052000   Sanctuary 
020. 1-20 1ADH20 09052000   War Zone 
076. 4-20 4ABB20 09052000   The Yoko Factor 
021. 1-21 1ADH21 16052000   Blind Date 
077. 4-21 4ABB21 16052000   Primeval 
078. 4-22 4ABB22 23052000   Restless 
022. 1-22 1ADH22 23052000   To Shanshu In L.A. 
023. 2-01 2ADH01 26092000   Judgement 
079. 5-01 5ABB01 26092000   Buffy Vs. Dracula 
024. 2-02 2ADH02 03102000   Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been 
080. 5-02 5ABB02 03102000   Real Me 
025. 2-03 2ADH03 10102000   First Impressions 
081. 5-03 5ABB03 10102000   The Replacement 
026. 2-04 2ADH04 17102000   Untouched 
082. 5-04 5ABB04 17102000   Out Of My Mind 
083. 5-05 5ABB05 24102000   No Place Like Home 
027. 2-05 2ADH05 24102000   Dear Boy 
084. 5-06 5ABB06 07112000   Family 
028. 2-06 2ADH06 07112000   Guise Will Be Guise 
085. 5-07 5ABB07 14112000   Fool For Love 
029. 2-07 2ADH07 14112000   Darla 
086. 5-08 5ABB08 21112000   Shadow 
030. 2-08 2ADH08 21112000   The Shroud Of Rahmon 
087. 5-09 5ABB09 28112000   Listening To Fear 
031. 2-09 2ADH09 28112000   The Trial 
032. 2-10 2ADH10 19122000   Reunion 
088. 5-10 5ABB10 19122000   Into The Woods 
089. 5-11 5ABB11 09012001   Triangle 
033. 2-11 2ADH11 16012001   Redefinition 
090. 5-12 5ABB12 23012001   Checkpoint 
034. 2-12 2ADH12 23012001   Blood Money 
091. 5-13 5ABB13 06022001   Blood Ties 
035. 2-13 2ADH13 06022001   Happy Anniversary 
036. 2-14 2ADH14 13022001   The Thin Dead Line 
092. 5-14 5ABB14 13022001   Crush 
093. 5-15 5ABB15 20022001   I Was Made To Love You 
037. 2-15 2ADH15 20022001   Reprise 
038. 2-16 2ADH16 27022001   Epiphany 
094. 5-16 5ABB16 27022001   The Body 
095. 5-17 5ABB17 17042001   Forever 
039. 2-17 2ADH17 17042001   Disharmony 
096. 5-18 5ABB18 24042001   Intervention 
040. 2-18 2ADH18 24042001   Dead End 
041. 2-19 2ADH19 01052001   Belonging 
097. 5-19 5ABB19 01052001   Tough Love 
098. 5-20 5ABB20 08052001   Spiral 
042. 2-20 2ADH20 08052001   Over The Rainbow 
099. 5-21 5ABB21 15052001   The Weight Of The World 
043. 2-21 2ADH21 15052001   Through The Looking Glass 
044. 2-22 2ADH22 22052001   There's No Place Like Plrtz Glrb 
100. 5-22 5ABB22 22052001   The Gift 
045. 3-01 3ADH01 24092001   Heartthrob 
046. 3-02 3ADH03 01102001   That Vision Thing 
102. 6-02 6ABB02 02102001   Bargaining (2) 
101. 6-01 6ABB01 02102001   Bargaining (1) 
047. 3-03 3ADH02 08102001   That Old Gang Of Mine 
103. 6-03 6ABB03 09102001   After Life 
048. 3-04 3ADH04 15102001   Carpe Noctem 
104. 6-04 6ABB04 16102001   Flooded 
049. 3-05 3ADH05 22102001   Fredless 
105. 6-05 6ABB05 23102001   Life Serial 
050. 3-06 3ADH06 29102001   Billy 
106. 6-06 6ABB06 30102001   All The Way 
051. 3-07 3ADH07 05112001   Offspring 
107. 6-07 6ABB07 06112001   Once More, With Feeling 
052. 3-08 3ADH08 12112001   Quickening 
108. 6-08 6ABB08 13112001   Tabula Rasa 
053. 3-09 3ADH09 19112001   Lullaby 
109. 6-09 6ABB09 20112001   Smashed 
110. 6-10 6ABB10 27112001   Wrecked 
054. 3-10 3ADH10 10122001   Dad 
111. 6-11 6ABB11 08012002   Gone 
055. 3-11 3ADH11 14012002   Birthday 
056. 3-12 3ADH12 21012002   Provider 
112. 6-12 6ABB12 29012002   Doublemeat Palace 
057. 3-13 3ADH13 04022002   Waiting In The Wings 
113. 6-13 6ABB13 05022002   Dead Things 
114. 6-14 6ABB14 12022002   Older And Far Away 
058. 3-14 3ADH14 18022002   Couplet 
059. 3-15 3ADH15 25022002   Loyalty 
115. 6-15 6ABB15 26022002   As You Were 
060. 3-16 3ADH16 04032002   Sleep Tight 
116. 6-16 6ABB16 05032002   Hell's Bells 
117. 6-17 6ABB17 12032002   Normal Again 
061. 3-17 3ADH17 15042002   Forgiving 
062. 3-18 3ADH18 22042002   Double Or Nothing 
063. 3-19 3ADH19 29042002   The Price 
118. 6-18 6ABB18 30042002   Entropy 
064. 3-20 3ADH20 06052002   A New World 
119. 6-19 6ABB19 07052002   Seeing Red 
065. 3-21 3ADH21 13052002   Benediction 
120. 6-20 6ABB20 14052002   Villains 
066. 3-22 3ADH22 20052002   Tomorrow 
122. 6-22 6ABB22 21052002   Grave 
121. 6-21 6ABB21 21052002   Two To Go 
123. 7-01 7ABB01 24092002   Lessons 
124. 7-02 7ABB02 01102002   Beneath You 
067. 4-01 4ADH01 06102002   Deep Down 
125. 7-03 7ABB03 08102002   Same Time, Same Place 
068. 4-02 4ADH02 13102002   Ground State 
126. 7-04 7ABB04 15102002   Help 
069. 4-03 4ADH03 20102002   The House Always Wins 
127. 7-05 7ABB05 22102002   Selfless 
070. 4-04 4ADH04 27102002   Slouching Toward Bethlehem 
071. 4-05 4ADH05 03112002   Supersymmetry 
128. 7-06 7ABB06 05112002   Him 
072. 4-06 4ADH06 10112002   Spin The Bottle 
129. 7-07 7ABB07 12112002   Conversations With Dead People 
073. 4-07 4ADH07 17112002   Apocalypse, Nowish 
130. 7-08 7ABB08 19112002   Sleeper 
131. 7-09 7ABB09 26112002   Never Leave Me 
132. 7-10 7ABB10 17122002   Bring On The Night 
133. 7-11 7ABB11 07012003   Showtime 
074. 4-08 4ADH08 15012003   Habeas Corpses 
134. 7-12 7ABB12 21012003   Potential 
075. 4-09 4ADH09 22012003   Long Day's Journey 
076. 4-10 4ADH10 29012003   Awakening 
135. 7-13 7ABB13 04022003   The Killer In Me 
077. 4-11 4ADH11 05022003   Soulless 
136. 7-14 7ABB14 11022003   First Date 
078. 4-12 4ADH12 12022003   Calvary 
137. 7-15 7ABB15 18022003   Get It Done 
138. 7-16 7ABB16 25022003   Storyteller 
079. 4-13 4ADH13 05032003   Salvage 
080. 4-14 4ADH14 12032003   Release 
081. 4-15 4ADH15 19032003   Orpheus 
139. 7-17 7ABB17 25032003   Lies My Parents Told Me 
082. 4-16 4ADH16 26032003   Players 
083. 4-17 4ADH17 02042003   Inside Out 
084. 4-18 4ADH18 09042003   Shiny Happy People 
140. 7-18 7ABB18 15042003   Dirty Girls 
085. 4-19 4ADH19 16042003   The Magic Bullet 
086. 4-20 4ADH20 23042003   Sacrifice 
141. 7-19 7ABB19 29042003   Empty Places 
087. 4-21 4ADH21 30042003   Peace Out 
142. 7-20 7ABB20 06052003   Touched 
088. 4-22 4ADH22 07052003   Home 
143. 7-21 7ABB21 13052003   End Of Days 
144. 7-22 7ABB22 20052003   Chosen

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Clarification of Question by mplungjan-ga on 01 Jun 2003 10:23 PDT

Example:
Buffy "Harsh light of day" crossover with Angel episode "In the Dark"
and
Buffy "pangs" crossover with Angel episode "I Will Remember You"

But I want ALL of them

Episode transcripts and summaries are available at:

B U F F Y W O R L D . C O M
A complete guide to all of the Buffy The Vampire Slayer and Angel
episodes
http://www.buffyworld.com

Angel
http://www.buffyworld.com/angel/season1/season1.htm
http://www.buffyworld.com/angel/season2/season2.htm
http://www.buffyworld.com/angel/season3/season3.htm
http://www.buffyworld.com/angel/season4/season4.htm

Buffy the Vampire Slayer
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season4/season4.htm
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season5/season5.htm
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season6/season6.htm
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/season7.htm

Psyche
http://StudiesInWords.de


Breaking the original list down according to the show and into
continuous sequences produces this derived list. The viewing order
should be accurate. One might quibble with the dating in a few cases,
which is subject to interpretation.

BtVS Season 4
   
  057. 4-01 4ABB01 05101999   The Freshman
  058. 4-02 4ABB02 12101999   Living Conditions


Angel Season 1

  001. 1-01 1ADH01 05101999   City Of... (correct title)
  002. 1-02 1ADH02 12101999   Lonely Hearts (correct title)

BtVS/Angel (Already covered in the clarification.)

  059. 4-03 4ABB03 19101999   The Harsh Light Of Day - BtVS
  003. 1-03 1ADH03 19101999   In The Dark - Angel

BtVS

  060. 4-04 4ABB04 26101999   Fear, Itself
  061. 4-05 4ABB05 02111999   Beer Bad
  062. 4-06 4ABB06 09111999   Wild At Heart
  063. 4-07 4ABB07 16111999   The Initiative

Angel

  004. 1-04 1ADH04 26101999   I Fall To Pieces
  005. 1-05 1ADH05 02111999   Rm W/a Vu
  006. 1-06 1ADH06 09111999   Sense & Sensitivity


"Bachelor Party" ends with Doyle's vision of Buffy in danger that
sends Angel back to Sunnydale. "Pangs" must be the next episode in the
common chronology: Angel has rushed to Sunnydale in response to the
vision. "Pangs" is followed by the ambiguous "I Will Remember You":
Buffy goes to L.A. to confront Angel about his secret visit to
Sunnydale, but all the events after the confrontation are erased from
the timeline, and Buffy returns immediately to Sunnydale (or after
seeing her father). "The Initiative" precedes "Pangs", for it is
during "The Initiative" that Spike (Hostile 17) escapes the
underground headquarters of the Initiative. It is during "Pangs" that
Spike seeks protection with the Scoobies. Because "Pangs" fixes the
dates of the other episodes (ending Thanksgiving Thursday rather than
the air date), we must assume that "Bachelor Party" occurs immediately
prior to or during this episode. Therefore, this related series of
episodes -- "Bachelor Party", "Pangs", and "I Will Remember You" --
must have occurred during Thanksgiving Week, with a probable terminal
date of Friday. "Something Blue" is more difficult to place. It
appears to follow "I Will Remember You" serially, perhaps as early as
Friday or Saturday, but Tuesday is not an unlikely date.


BtVS/Angel

  007. 1-07 1ADH07 16111999   Bachelor Party - Angel
  064. 4-08 4ABB08 23111999   Pangs - BtVS
  008. 1-08 1ADH08 23111999   I Will Remember You - Angel


The following can be viewed sequentially.

"This Year's Girl" is continuous with "Who Are You?" Buffy-in-Faith is
knocked unconscious at the end of the former, and is being taken away
by the paramedics at the beginning of the latter.

BtVS

  065. 4-09 4ABB09 30111999   Something Blue
  066. 4-10 4ABB10 14121999   Hush
  067. 4-11 4ABB11 18012000   Doomed
  068. 4-12 4ABB12 25012000   A New Man
  069. 4-13 4ABB13 08022000   The I In Team
  070. 4-14 4ABB14 15022000   Goodbye Iowa
  071. 4-15 4ABB15 22022000   This Year's Girl
  072. 4-16 4ABB16 29022000   Who Are You?
  073. 4-17 4ABB17 04042000   Superstar
  074. 4-18 4ABB18 25042000   Where The Wild Things Are
  075. 4-19 4ABB19 02052000   New Moon Rising

Angel

  009. 1-09 1ADH09 30111999   Hero
  010. 1-10 1ADH10 14121999   Parting Gifts
  011. 1-11 1ADH11 18012000   Somnambulist
  012. 1-12 1ADH12 25012000   Expecting
  013. 1-13 1ADH13 08022000   She
  014. 1-14 1ADH14 15022000   I've Got You Under My Skin
  015. 1-15 1ADH15 22022000   The Prodigal
  016. 1-16 1ADH16 29022000   The Ring
  017. 1-17 1ADH17 04042000   Eternity


It's unclear how much time has expired between "Who Are You?" and
"Five by Five," but Giles tells Angel over the telephone in the latter
that it has been about a week, which puts FBF in the first week of
March. That pushes "New Moon Rising" back chronologically to
approximately the same date. Buffy returns directly thereafter from
L.A. ("Sanctuary") followed by Angel in "The Yoko Factor", serially
also in early March.


  018. 1-18 1ADH18 25042000   Five By Five - Angel
  019. 1-19 1ADH19 02052000   Sanctuary - Angel
  076. 4-20 4ABB20 09052000   The Yoko Factor - BtVS


"Primeval" and "Restless" also must occur sometime in March, as they
follow serially after TYF.

BtVS

  077. 4-21 4ABB21 16052000   Primeval
  078. 4-22 4ABB22 23052000   Restless


Angel

  020. 1-20 1ADH20 09052000   War Zone
  021. 1-21 1ADH21 16052000   Blind Date
  022. 1-22 1ADH22 23052000   To Shanshu In L.A.

More sequential episodes.

BtVS Season 5

  079. 5-01 5ABB01 26092000   Buffy Vs. Dracula
  080. 5-02 5ABB02 03102000   Real Me
  081. 5-03 5ABB03 10102000   The Replacement
  082. 5-04 5ABB04 17102000   Out Of My Mind
  083. 5-05 5ABB05 24102000   No Place Like Home
  084. 5-06 5ABB06 07112000   Family
  085. 5-07 5ABB07 14112000   Fool For Love
  086. 5-08 5ABB08 21112000   Shadow
  087. 5-09 5ABB09 28112000   Listening To Fear
  088. 5-10 5ABB10 19122000   Into The Woods
  089. 5-11 5ABB11 09012001   Triangle
  090. 5-12 5ABB12 23012001   Checkpoint
  091. 5-13 5ABB13 06022001   Blood Ties
  092. 5-14 5ABB14 13022001   Crush
  093. 5-15 5ABB15 20022001   I Was Made To Love You
  094. 5-16 5ABB16 27022001   The Body


"Forever" is the first crossover episode of the fifth season of BtVS
and the second season of Angel. It doesn't affect continuity in
either, however. Angel can be viewed without having seen "Forever".

BtVS

  095. 5-17 5ABB17 17042001   Forever
  096. 5-18 5ABB18 24042001   Intervention
  097. 5-19 5ABB19 01052001   Tough Love
  098. 5-20 5ABB20 08052001   Spiral
  099. 5-21 5ABB21 15052001   The Weight Of The World

Sequential, too.

Angel Season 2

  023. 2-01 2ADH01 26092000   Judgement  
  024. 2-02 2ADH02 03102000   Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been  
  025. 2-03 2ADH03 10102000   First Impressions  
  026. 2-04 2ADH04 17102000   Untouched  
  027. 2-05 2ADH05 24102000   Dear Boy  
  028. 2-06 2ADH06 07112000   Guise Will Be Guise  
  029. 2-07 2ADH07 14112000   Darla  
  030. 2-08 2ADH08 21112000   The Shroud Of Rahmon  
  031. 2-09 2ADH09 28112000   The Trial  
  032. 2-10 2ADH10 19122000   Reunion  
  033. 2-11 2ADH11 16012001   Redefinition  
  034. 2-12 2ADH12 23012001   Blood Money  
  035. 2-13 2ADH13 06022001   Happy Anniversary  
  036. 2-14 2ADH14 13022001   The Thin Dead Line  
  037. 2-15 2ADH15 20022001   Reprise  
  038. 2-16 2ADH16 27022001   Epiphany  


Although Willow and Cordelia speak on the telephone in "Disharmony",
the conversation has no effect on the chronology. "The Real Me" has
already set up Harmony's flight from Sunnydale.  More important,
perhaps, is the conversation between Willow and Angel, when she warns
him of Harmony's presence, for it is then that she might have told him
about Joyce's death. However, Angel's trip to Sunnydale in "Forever"
can stand alone without the supposititious notice from Willow.

Angel

  039. 2-17 2ADH17 17042001   Disharmony  
  040. 2-18 2ADH18 24042001   Dead End  
  041. 2-19 2ADH19 01052001   Belonging  
  042. 2-20 2ADH20 08052001   Over The Rainbow  
  043. 2-21 2ADH21 15052001   Through The Looking Glass  


"The Gift" concludes before "There's No Place Like Plrtz Glrb." 
Willow must reach the Hyperion earlier than Angel Investigations.
Assume a day, at least, has passed.

BtVS/Angel

  100. 5-22 5ABB22 22052001   The Gift - BtVS
  044. 2-22 2ADH22 22052001   There's No Place Like Plrtz Glrb - Angel


BtVS Season 6

  101. 6-01 6ABB01 02102001   Bargaining (1) 
  102. 6-02 6ABB02 02102001   Bargaining (2)
  103. 6-03 6ABB03 09102001   After Life

Angel Season 3

  045. 3-01 3ADH01 24092001   Heartthrob  
  046. 3-02 3ADH03 01102001   That Vision Thing  
  047. 3-03 3ADH02 08102001   That Old Gang Of Mine  


"Carpe Noctem" occurs before "Flooded," because Angel first hears
about Buffy's resurrection from Willow at the end of CN. Buffy then
receives a return telephone call from Angel at the end of "Flooded."
They meet somewhere between L.A. and Sunnydale after those episodes.

Incidental to that is the fact that Angel must have been back in L.A.
nearly two months before Buffy was resurrected: Cordelia tells James
in "Heartthrob" that it has been about three months since Buffy's
death. Two months must have passed, therefore, between "Heartthrob"
and "Carpe Noctem," because Spike tells Buffy in "Afterlife" that she
had been gone for 147 days, almost five months.


BtVS/Angel

  048. 3-04 3ADH04 15102001   Carpe Noctem - Angel 
  104. 6-04 6ABB04 16102001   Flooded - BtVS

"Life Serial" and "Fredless" each takes notice of the meeting.

  105. 6-05 6ABB05 23102001   Life Serial - BtVS
  049. 3-05 3ADH05 22102001   Fredless - Angel

Both shows have long sequences.

BtVS

  106. 6-06 6ABB06 30102001   All The Way
  107. 6-07 6ABB07 06112001   Once More, With Feeling
  108. 6-08 6ABB08 13112001   Tabula Rasa
  109. 6-09 6ABB09 20112001   Smashed
  110. 6-10 6ABB10 27112001   Wrecked
  111. 6-11 6ABB11 08012002   Gone
  112. 6-12 6ABB12 29012002   Doublemeat Palace
  113. 6-13 6ABB13 05022002   Dead Things
  114. 6-14 6ABB14 12022002   Older And Far Away
  115. 6-15 6ABB15 26022002   As You Were
  116. 6-16 6ABB16 05032002   Hell's Bells
  117. 6-17 6ABB17 12032002   Normal Again
  118. 6-18 6ABB18 30042002   Entropy
  119. 6-19 6ABB19 07052002   Seeing Red
  120. 6-20 6ABB20 14052002   Villains
  121. 6-21 6ABB21 21052002   Two To Go
  122. 6-22 6ABB22 21052002   Grave

Angel

  050. 3-06 3ADH06 29102001   Billy  
  051. 3-07 3ADH07 05112001   Offspring  
  052. 3-08 3ADH08 12112001   Quickening  
  053. 3-09 3ADH09 19112001   Lullaby  
  054. 3-10 3ADH10 10122001   Dad  
  055. 3-11 3ADH11 14012002   Birthday  
  056. 3-12 3ADH12 21012002   Provider  
  057. 3-13 3ADH13 04022002   Waiting In The Wings  
  058. 3-14 3ADH14 18022002   Couplet  
  059. 3-15 3ADH15 25022002   Loyalty  
  060. 3-16 3ADH16 04032002   Sleep Tight  
  061. 3-17 3ADH17 15042002   Forgiving  
  062. 3-18 3ADH18 22042002   Double Or Nothing  
  063. 3-19 3ADH19 29042002   The Price  
  064. 3-20 3ADH20 06052002   A New World  
  065. 3-21 3ADH21 13052002   Benediction  
  066. 3-22 3ADH22 20052002   Tomorrow  


BtVS Season 7

  123. 7-01 7ABB01 24092002   Lessons
  124. 7-02 7ABB02 01102002   Beneath You
  125. 7-03 7ABB03 08102002   Same Time, Same Place
  126. 7-04 7ABB04 15102002   Help
  127. 7-05 7ABB05 22102002   Selfless
  128. 7-06 7ABB06 05112002   Him
  129. 7-07 7ABB07 12112002   Conversations With Dead People
  130. 7-08 7ABB08 19112002   Sleeper
  131. 7-09 7ABB09 26112002   Never Leave Me
  132. 7-10 7ABB10 17122002   Bring On The Night
  133. 7-11 7ABB11 07012003   Showtime
  134. 7-12 7ABB12 21012003   Potential
  135. 7-13 7ABB13 04022003   The Killer In Me
  136. 7-14 7ABB14 11022003   First Date
  137. 7-15 7ABB15 18022003   Get It Done
  138. 7-16 7ABB16 25022003   Storyteller



Willow's visit to L.A. in "Orpheus" after the call from Fred ("Lies My
Parents Told Me"/"Orpheus") is the first significant event in this
year affecting both series, as Willow is absent for the last half of
LMPTM. Faith's escape from prison in "Salvage" sets up her return to
BtVS in "Dirty Girls".

BtVS/Angel

  139. 7-17 7ABB17 25032003   Lies My Parents Told Me - BtVS
  081. 4-15 4ADH15 19032003   Orpheus - Angel
  140. 7-18 7ABB18 15042003   Dirty Girls - BtVS

BtVS
  141. 7-19 7ABB19 29042003   Empty Places
  142. 7-20 7ABB20 06052003   Touched

Angel Season 4

  067. 4-01 4ADH01 06102002   Deep Down  
  068. 4-02 4ADH02 13102002   Ground State  
  069. 4-03 4ADH03 20102002   The House Always Wins  
  070. 4-04 4ADH04 27102002   Slouching Toward Bethlehem  
  071. 4-05 4ADH05 03112002   Supersymmetry  
  072. 4-06 4ADH06 10112002   Spin The Bottle  
  073. 4-07 4ADH07 17112002   Apocalypse, Nowish  
  074. 4-08 4ADH08 15012003   Habeas Corpses  
  075. 4-09 4ADH09 22012003   Long Day's Journey  
  076. 4-10 4ADH10 29012003   Awakening  
  077. 4-11 4ADH11 05022003   Soulless  
  078. 4-12 4ADH12 12022003   Calvary  
  079. 4-13 4ADH13 05032003   Salvage  
  080. 4-14 4ADH14 12032003   Release  

"Orpheus" (see above.)

  082. 4-16 4ADH16 26032003   Players  
  083. 4-17 4ADH17 02042003   Inside Out  
  084. 4-18 4ADH18 09042003   Shiny Happy People  
  085. 4-19 4ADH19 16042003   The Magic Bullet  
  086. 4-20 4ADH20 23042003   Sacrifice  
  087. 4-21 4ADH21 30042003   Peace Out  


Obviously, "Home" provides the amulet that figures in "Chosen", which
impels Angel to go to Sunnydale in "End of Days."

BtVS/Angel

  088. 4-22 4ADH22 07052003   Home - Angel
  143. 7-21 7ABB21 13052003   End Of Days - BtVS
  144. 7-22 7ABB22 20052003   Chosen - BtVS

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hlabadie-ga

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Clarification of Answer by hlabadie-ga on 04 Jul 2003 09:18 PDT

This is a correction. I would have posted it earlier, but my computer
has been down and up and down for several weeks, permitting only
intermittent connections.

Harmony leaves Sunnydale immediately after "Crush", not "The Real
Me.". It helps to have seen the episodes of Angel that aired prior to
the broadcast date of "Crush", but it is not essential. Spike and
Drusilla give a synopsis within the episode itself to bring the
viewers up to speed on the developments in L.A. on Angel.

hlabadie-ga

I assume this is correct - it will take me 3 buffy (one not out yet)
and 4 angel seasons to verify that you are correct -  that is some
6000 minutes []_[]
Thanks

The Gift had to conclude before There's No Place Like Plrtz Glrb, as
there had to be time for Willow to reach L.A. before AI returned to
the Hyperion from Pylea.

There is an obvious problem with Flooded and Carpe Noctem: in Flooded,
Buffy receives a call from Angel, who has been informed that Buffy is
alive, while in CN, Angel receives a call from Willow, informing him
that Buffy is alive, but there is never a time in Flooded when Willow
could have made the call. One is compelled to assume that she called
before the quarrel with Giles and forgot to mention it afterwards, but
that is only speculation.

hlabadie-ga

Ok, thanks - inconsistensies are definitely also welcome ;)

Thanks. Enjoy the shows. BtVS and the first two seasons of Angel are
well worth the expense.

I would have a difficult time justifying to myself the purchase of the
third and fourth seasons of Angel on DVD when they are issued,
however.

And don't forget the crossovers between BtVS and Angel with Firefly!
Nathan Fillion was Caleb on BtVS and Gina Torres was Jasmine on Angel.

hlabadie-ga

Already have season 3 of angel and I will get 4 and buffy 7 too at
least for piece of mind :)

Thanks

Seems missing that Crush must come after quite a few Angels is
important.
I am going to look at Angel (Episode "Darla") now and see when
Drusilla leaves for Sunnydale - must be around Redefinition or
Bloodmoney.

In Crush, Dru is talking to Spike and Spike is summing up as you said.
I watched Crush too early now :( Far to far behind ... Need to see how
Spike knows too...

I have very few problems with the shows Buffy and Angel. I have
watched each season at least 13 times each of each show.. I absolutely
despise the whole Cordelia thing in Season 4. She should have never
become a higher being and never become evil possessed pregnant lady.
They should have either killed her off or put her in a coma or
something until Charisma's baby was born. Angel being in love with
Cordelia was a VERY stupid idea.

And what pissed me off in Buffy is the way that she is towards men.
Scott, Parker and even Riley. None of them compare to Angel and they
COULD have made the relationship work. It doesn't mean they couldn't
have sex, the curse does not specifically say sex. So what in the hell
is the deal with Angel running around so scared to have sex?

Sheesh, and what was the deal in the episode where Angel became human
and had Buffy and everything he had ever wanted in his life was
finally coming true.. They made Angel this helpless little weak boy in
that episode just because he wasn't a vampire. He's been alive for
over 240 years. And it's actually over 340 if you include the 100
years he was trapped in a hell dimension.. Take away his vampirism and
he still makes a very strong human being that is well-trained in many
different fields of martial arts. He has 340+ years of fighting
experience under his belt but for some reason he becomes a little
helpless kitten when you take away his vampire-side.

This does not make sense, there are plenty of humans in both Buffy and
Angel that kick major demon ass throughout the seasons. Wesley, Gunn,
Riley, Principal Wood, and hell, even Giles in the later seasons.

The only reason Angel chose to fold time and choose to NOT become
human and live out the rest of his life with Buffy was because he
couldn't fight or be of any help to her. This is stupid because all
logic points to Angel still being able to handle himself as a human,
the writers were WRONG here and there should have been some other
reason for him choosing to turn back time.

And btw, Oz is the best character in BOTH shows. Seth Green's movie
career was taking off hardcore and he didn't have time to do the show
full-time, but he offered to come on as a recurring part-time
character as he started out. But the Powers That Be said no and he was
off of Buffy, forever.. He WAS going to be on Season 6 of Angel
though, Joss Whedon was determined to get Oz to help Angel's werewolf
girlfriend and he was possibly going to become a regular on the show.
But the stupid WB had to cancel Angel.

Ever since they made their announcement to cancel Angel I have not
watched The WB. I will stay true to my boycott until they bring Angel
back in SOME way.