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should a drug-abusing expectant mother be charged with child abuse?
Category: Family and Home > Parenting Asked by: nypunkchick-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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08 Jun 2003 17:46 PDT
Expires: 08 Jul 2003 17:46 PDT Question ID: 214863 |
should a drug-abusing expectant mother be charged with child abuse? | |
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Re: should a drug-abusing expectant mother be charged with child abuse?
Answered By: justaskscott-ga on 17 Jun 2003 00:06 PDT |
Since your question has been around for over a week now, I figured it could use an answer. The commenters have indicated a variety of ways in which this question can be approached. First of all, some would answer "yes" to the question. The argument for a "yes" answer might go like this: If something is harmful, it should be illegal. If someone harms a child, it should be prosecuted as child abuse. If a pregnant mother harms her unborn child, that is child abuse for which she should be prosecuted. One could look at the question in ways that might alter the "yes" answer. First of all, one might treat abuse of illegal drugs such as cocaine or heroin differently from legal drugs such as nicotine or alcohol. Personally, I tend to think that there is relatively little difference in how the law should treat legal versus illegal drugs in this situation. The issue is not whether the person is allowed to take those drugs, but whether taking the drugs should be prosecuted as child abuse. If there is a difference, I think it would be in how well-known the dangers of one substance versus another are. Another way to look at the question is suggested by angy-ga's comment. Should a prosecution begin if a woman takes drugs at any time after she learns she is pregnant? Or should it only occur later in the pregnancy? Or perhaps it should occur once the pregnancy has ended? These questions lead to other questions. Did the woman plan to become pregnant, so that she could have also planned to phase off of the substance she was taking? When does the embryo or fetus become a child, for which the child abuse laws should apply? Is the purpose of prosecution to put a woman in custody so that she has no access to drugs, or just to punish a woman for having taken those drugs? That last point leads to additional considerations. If the purpose to prosecution is to prevent drug-taking, and thereby to help the mother and fetus, will the purpose be served? One the one hand, some women will be put in a situation where they cannot take drugs and can receive help. On the other hand, some women might be put in jail or prison, where they might not (or might) have access to drugs, but which in any event might be harmful to the mother and the fetus. Perhaps the positives will outweigh the negatives for most of the women prosecuted for child abuse in this situation. But what about other pregnant women? Many of them will be scared -- even more scared than they would otherwise be -- to admit to anyone that they are taking drugs, and will be dissuaded from seeking help for their problem. In the end, as other commenters have pointed out, some communities will choose to enact criminal laws and prosecute pregnant women for taking drugs that endanger the fetus, while others will encourage different strategies, such as advertising the dangers and offering treatment. (Of course, those that prosecute can also use the alternative strategies to some degree, and vice versa.) My view is that the government should not be arresting and threatening pregnant women for doing something that is difficult to stop doing, and rather should encourage them as much as possible to seek help. This view accords with my general political viewpoint; but if I had a different viewpoint, I might say that the government needs to act more forcefully to prevent immediate harm. There can also be a middle view, which allows the option of prosecution (or even the option of a felony or misdemeanor charge) in some cases, and treatment in others, perhaps depending on how much the woman makes a sincere effort to stop taking drugs. Each of these positions has merit -- which you choose is up to you. |
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Re: should a drug-abusing expectant mother be charged with child abuse?
From: redhoss-ga on 08 Jun 2003 18:14 PDT |
YES |
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Re: should a drug-abusing expectant mother be charged with child abuse?
From: digsalot-ga on 08 Jun 2003 18:16 PDT |
another vote for yes |
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Re: should a drug-abusing expectant mother be charged with child abuse?
From: tlspiegel-ga on 08 Jun 2003 18:52 PDT |
Absolutely. tlspiegel |
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Re: should a drug-abusing expectant mother be charged with child abuse?
From: expertlaw-ga on 08 Jun 2003 20:25 PDT |
Are you speaking strictly of illegal drugs? Or also the abuse of nicotine (associated with low birth weight), or alcohol (which can lead to fetal alcohol syndrome (FAS) and other neurodevelopmental disorders)? The Center for Disease Control describes FAS on its website: http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/fas/default.htm |
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Re: should a drug-abusing expectant mother be charged with child abuse?
From: digsalot-ga on 08 Jun 2003 20:44 PDT |
I was thinking of all drugs including nicotine and alcohol. In Ohio, notices of the dangers of drinking and pregnancy along with smoking and pregnancy are posted in most establishments. It is not a matter of violating the law through ignorance, it is a deliberate ignoring of warnings to smoke or drink during pregnancy. Even if there is drug intervention, in the case of harder drugs, while the expectant mother may be treated, the crime has already been committed and whatever damage there may be is already done. While I agree with justaskscott-ga that there are treatment and other options available, some degree of prosecution for child abuse should be part of the process. Of course this is no more than personal opinion. digs |
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Re: should a drug-abusing expectant mother be charged with child abuse?
From: angy-ga on 08 Jun 2003 23:31 PDT |
There is an assumption in the comments here that the pregnancy is deliberately chosen. Also, at what point does the prosecution come into play ? After the child is born damaged seems a bit late; but prosecuting a cigarette smoker whose baby seems to be progressing within normal parameters seems a bit severe. |
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Re: should a drug-abusing expectant mother be charged with child abuse?
From: digsalot-ga on 09 Jun 2003 01:04 PDT |
I must presume the law is not the same everywhere. The reason I worded my comment to say "some degree" is that not all such prosecutions are felonies. The wife of a friend was arrested for smoking while pregnant. It was a misdemeanor charge, the fine was about the same as for a speeding ticket along with court ordered counseling. She has no conviction of a felony on her record. What this does is allow the court to order counseling. Without a conviction, all authority can do is recommend, and the subject may or may not have the counseling. This way, they know the counseling will take place. I perhaps should apologize for not putting the words "some degree" in quotes to make them stand out. If such prosecutions were always felonious in nature and life destroying, then we would be in full agreement. digs |
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Re: should a drug-abusing expectant mother be charged with child abuse?
From: ewek1-ga on 09 Jun 2003 12:05 PDT |
Not to make light of the situation as it is quite a serious subject, but I think the real underlying answer to this question depends on a question best asked on Seinfeld: Is it a pizza when it comes out of the oven, or is it a pizza the minute you "putta your hands ina the dough?" In all seriousness, many people have different answers to this question, and this would obviously impact the legal issues concerning this issue. |
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Re: should a drug-abusing expectant mother be charged with child abuse?
From: tehuti-ga on 09 Jun 2003 13:19 PDT |
Perhaps it is because I do not live in the United States, but I cannot go along with the idea that every problem in the world can be solved by arresting, fining or sueing someone. It will only be the less educated, ignorant women, who do not realise that lighting up/drinking etc in public will result in undesirable consequences under the fascistic regimen that appears to operate over there. Meanwhile, the glossy celebrity pregnant junkie will light up, snort, or inject herself with whatever she pleases, and no one will know any better. The key to ensuring the prenatal and postnatal health of children lies in education, medical and emotional support and financial incentives, as needed, not in punishment. |
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Re: should a drug-abusing expectant mother be charged with child abuse?
From: chellphill-ga on 09 Jun 2003 18:40 PDT |
http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/spib_SADP.pdf |
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