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Subject: The Architect from 'The Matrix'
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Movies and Film
Asked by: cougar43-ga
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Posted: 10 Jun 2003 19:25 PDT
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Question ID: 215865
I believe I speak for a majority of the country when they viewed 'The
Matrix: Reloaded' for the first time: what did the Architect say?
Well, I took a audiocassette recorder to the theatre the second time I
saw and typed up the scene. So, what I am asking is for a really deep,
philosophical interpretation of this scene from the Matrix. Explain it
to me so I can help explain it to the world! Comments are encouraged!


The Architect: Hello, Neo.

Neo: Who are you?

The Architect: I am the Architect. I created the Matrix. I’ve been
waiting for you. You have many questions and though the process has
altered your consciousness, you remain irrevocably human. Here go some
of my answers you will understand and some of them you will not.
Concordantly while your first question is most pertinent, you may not
realize it is the most irrelevant.

Neo: Why am I here?

The Architect: Your life is the sum of the remainder of an unbalanced
equation inherent in the programming of the Matrix. You are the
eventuality of an anomaly which, despite my sincerest efforts, I have
been unable to eliminate what is otherwise a harmony of a mathematical
precision. While it remains a burden, the situation of why I did it is
not unexpected, and thus is not beyond a nature of control. Which has
led you, inextricably, here.

Neo: You haven’t answered my question.

The Architect: Quite right. Interesting,...that was quicker than the
others.

Neo: {What others?} Background screens

The Architect: The Matrix is older than you know. I prefer counting
from the emergence of one integral anomaly to the emergence of the
next, in which case, this is the sixth version.

Neo: {There’s only two explanations for this: either no one told me,
or no one knows.} Background Screens

The Architect: Precisely. As you are undoubtedly gathering, the
anomalies is a systemic, creating fluxuations in even the most
simplistic equations.

Neo: {Choice. The problem is choice.} Background screens

The Architect: The first Matrix I designed was quite naturally
perfect. It was a work of art: flawless, sublime. A triumph only equal
to its’ monumental failure. The inevitability of its toll is apparent
to me now as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in every human
being. As I redesigned it, based on your history to more accurately
reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature; however, I was again
frustrated by failure. I have since come to understand that the answer
eluded me because it required a lesser mind, or perhaps a mind less
bound by the parameters of perfection. Thus the answer was stumbled
upon by another: an intuitive program that was initially created to
investigate certain aspects of the human psyche. If I am the father of
the Matrix, she would undoubtedly be its mother.

Neo: The Oracle.


The Architect: Please...as I was saying she stumbled upon a section
where by nearly 99% of the test subjects accepted the program as long
as they were given choice; even if they were aware of the choice at
the subconscious level. While this answered functionally, it was
fundamentally flawed, thus creating the otherwise contradictory
systemic anomaly. But if left unchecked, it might threaten the system
itself. Completely. There go, those that refused the program, while a
minority, if unchecked would constitute an escalating probability of
disaster.

Neo: This is about Zion.

The Architect: You are here because Zion is about to be destroyed.
Its’ every living inhabitant terminated, its entire existent
eradicated.

Neo: {Bull Shit!} Background Screens

The Architect: Denial is the most predictable of all human responses.
But rest assured: this will be the sixth time we have destroyed it,
and we have become exceedingly efficient at it.

The Architect: The function of the one is now to return to the source,
allowing a temporary dissemination of the cold you carry reinserting
the prime program, after which you will be required to select from the
Matrix 23 individuals, 16 female 7 male, to rebuild Zion. Failure to
comply with this process will result in a cataclysmic system crash
killing everyone connected to the Matrix, which coupled with the
extermination of Zion will result in the extinction of the entire
human race.

Neo: You won’t let it happen. You can’t. You need human beings to
survive.

The Architect: There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept.
However the relevant issue is whether you are willing to accept the
responsibility of the death of every human being in this world.

Clarification of Question by cougar43-ga on 16 Jun 2003 16:24 PDT
Wow! I am really enjoying this 'debate'! Thanks for contributing and
keep all those comments coming! {When the time comes, if you feel like
you deserve to be the 'Researcher', just ask for a 'Question
Clarification' and I'll see what I can do}
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Subject: Re: The Architect from 'The Matrix'
From: aratrotide-ga on 11 Jun 2003 13:50 PDT
 
The architect repeats "ergo" several times -- not "here go" or "there go"
Subject: Re: The Architect from 'The Matrix'
From: pinkfreud-ga on 11 Jun 2003 18:55 PDT
 
You might find this newsgroup thread interesting:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&newwindow=1&safe=off&th=2837cb4c9d209f66&rnum=3

Here's a transcript of the scene with some comments:

http://www.scottmanning.com/archives/000513.php
Subject: Re: The Architect from 'The Matrix'
From: deadlychiapet-ga on 11 Jun 2003 19:50 PDT
 
Another interesting link: 
http://www.corporatemofo.com/stories/051803matrix.htm
Subject: Re: The Architect from 'The Matrix'
From: robertskelton-ga on 12 Jun 2003 00:09 PDT
 
If you enjoy thinking about such possibilities, you might enjoy

How to Tell if you live in a simulation
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/anthony.campbell1/essays/skeptic/virtual.html
Subject: Re: The Architect from 'The Matrix'
From: endo-ga on 12 Jun 2003 08:23 PDT
 
Hi,

You'll find a lot of theories on this board:
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0234215/board/threads/

Hopefully you'll agree with one of them.

Regards,
endo
Subject: Re: The Architect from 'The Matrix'
From: flajason-ga on 16 Jun 2003 08:27 PDT
 
Here's my interpretation of the scene between Neo and the Architect.

Summary: I believe the core philosophy of this series is based upon
one of the oldest theological concepts: Freewill vs. Determinism.

The goal of the Matrix is to create a deterministic Universe.
Neo's goal is to provide Freewill and determine his own destiny.

Background:
In physics, if we know the velocity and location of every particle in
the Universe, we would have the information to predict the future. The
problem lies in the uncertainty principle. The more accurately we
measure the position of a particle, the less accurately we are able to
determine the velocity, and vice versa. It would also take massive
computational power to work those equations, but they are equations
that we do know. We have shown to a limited degree that determinism is
possible, but the laws of the Universe are set up so that we cannot
predict with absolute certainty.

In the Matrix, a computer program is responsible for the world we live
in. It undoubtably knows both the speed and location of every
particle, because it created it. This would explain the Oracle's
pre-cognitive powers; she has all the data. However, they are still
dealing with an uncertainty: the human psyche. She can very accurately
measure most, but there is still a small percentage that is left to
chance. Remeber from the first movie, she said that Neo wasn't the
One.

Scene Analysis:
In this scene, Neo is given an audience with God, or what passes for
God in the world of the Matrix. That he was represented by an elderly
man with white hair and beard was probably no coincidence. I am sure
that the Architect has the ability to appear as anything or anyone he
chooses.

Neo's second question, "Why am I here?" is a rather open ended
question, and typical of the type of questions that inspired
philosophy from the beginning of civilization. Mankind has always
struggled to find a purpose in life. Given the chance to speak with
our Creator, these are the answers we seek.

The Architect's answer, while technically correct, was not the
interpretation that Neo was seeking. As a nearly omnipotent being, he
can calculate the most probable response. Very much like a good
gambler, he plays the odds. His response was calculated to elicit a
specific response from Neo. (All of the TVs in the background
represent possible responses) When Neo called him on it, he was
surprised.

The discussion about the history of the Matrix is more pertinent to a
theological or mythological discussion that philisophical. The
Architect reveals that the Matrix is very much older than Neo is aware
of. In the first Matrix, Morpheus tells of the machines gaining
conciousness as though it were recent history. This is more plausible
to Neo than what the Architect is telling him.

Now we learn that there were five "The One's" prior to Neo. The One's
have the power to perform miracles, and can probably be corresponded
to historical figures. Perhaps Jesus and Moses were two previous
"One's". Others may have a mythological basis like Hercules or
Gilgamesh, part god, part human. The actual figures are entirely
speculation as there isn't enough information given by the Architect
to accurately identify them.

Neo's purpose of having freewill is summed up by his line, "Choice.
The problem is choice."

The next discussion reinforces the Architect's goal of control. His
admission of the first Matrix being 'perfect' and 'flawless' speaks of
a paradise or utopia. Perhaps the Garden of Eden or Atlantis were the
Architect's first creations. Both were supposedly utopian, and yet
both failed or were destroyed. It also tells of the cold, calculating
indifference of the Architect and the Matrix. Especially when Neo
comes to the understanding that it is all about Zion.

Again, we see that the Architect is counting on his ability to read
human responses, specifically denial. He is counting on Neo to make
the emotional decision to sacrifice Trinity and the inhabitants of
Zion in order to save the rest of the human race.

Again, the problem is choice. If he chooses freewill and risks the
consequence of the destruction of all humans connected to the Matrix
as well as the destruction of Zion, we have the opportunity to live in
a world free from oppression, free from control. If we allow our
decisions to be made for us, or influenced by those in control, we
perpetuate our existence as slaves to the Matrix.

Of course Neo makes the choice to save Trinity. Doing otherwise would
be bad film-making. It's like letting the bad guys win. Not a popular
theme in the movies.

There are a number of other philisophical and theological themes
running rampant in the Matrix series.

Agent Smith, previously a program who had to follow the rules, is now
set free. And also has the ability to 'possess' others, even outside
the Matrix. Before, he was an "Angel" of the Matrix. He held favor and
did the bidding of the Architect. Now he has been 'cast out' of the
Matrix and fallen out of favor. Sounds very much like the biography of
Lucifer, does it not? I will be very interested in to see what his
role becomes in the 3rd installation.

Overall, the Matrix is a compilation of several philosophies,
theologies, and myths. I doubt that we will ever know the whole truth
behind the Wachowski brother's ideas. Very similar to the ending of
'2001', I believe it was delierately set up for everyone to draw their
own conclusions. In that respect, they have achieved unparalleled
success.

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