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Matrix Reloaded's philosophical basis
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Movies and Film Asked by: barneywahoozie-ga List Price: $5.00 |
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12 Jun 2003 09:06 PDT
Expires: 12 Jul 2003 09:06 PDT Question ID: 216491 |
The Matrix Reloaded had deep philosophical grounding in the works of Cornel West and others. I am interested in reviews or descriptions of the movie that discuss the impact of these ideas on the film. Very important: I am not lookin for inteprerations - not how the Matrix Reloaded can be USED to understand something else. I am interested in the intetional use of philosophical ideas in the film (In the same way that Baudillard is used in the first film). |
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Re: Matrix Reloaded's philosophical basis
Answered By: leeann-ga on 19 Jun 2003 13:31 PDT |
barneywahoozie-ga: I was interested in the very same thing after I saw Matrix Reloaded. The best article I found at the time, and the closest to what you are looking for is by Ken Mondschein, founder of www.corporatemofo.com. His analysis is not only insightful, but actually looks at the philosophy that he ascertains to actually *influence* the film. http://www.corporatemofo.com/stories/051803matrix.htm While most of the other mainstream reviews were redundant, generic, and generally "dumbed down", I did find blogs to be a good source for essays and reviews of the *philosophy* behind the Matrix. Some of these are better than the first article, some of them are grasping at straws, but they all make you think about the relevant issues. In fact, many of these essays are attempting to do the same thing yours does... Make sure to check out the archives!! http://matrixessays.blogspot.com/ http://thematrix.talkinbout.us/ There is a good compilation of resources at: http://www.relevanthistory.com/archive/cat_matrix_reloaded.html If you have any questions or need clarification, please feel free to ask. Search Strategy: "Matrix Reloaded philosophical basis" "philosophy Matrix Reloaded" Best Regards, leeann-ga |
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Re: Matrix Reloaded's philosophical basis
From: scarabic-ga on 12 Jun 2003 12:02 PDT |
Though you will have a hard time finding any direct information on what the Wachowski brothers consciously intended to do with the film (they're pretty tight-lipped and grant few interviews) you should at least read the philosophical essays they've made available on the Warner Brothers' Matrix site: http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rl_cmp/phi.html There are a million interpretations out there, but these sanctioned essays explore various philosophical questions in the context of the film. I think you could consider that if the topic is discussed therein, the directors are consciously playing with it in the film, and attempting to stimulate conversation about it. Good luck |
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Re: Matrix Reloaded's philosophical basis
From: barneywahoozie-ga on 12 Jun 2003 15:15 PDT |
Thank you scarabic-ga. That is a great resource. However, as you know, that is just about the first film, not the second. The second seems to rely strongly on Foucault, but I have yet to see anyone grounded in postmodern theory capable of discussing it yet. I gave it a shot at http://www.forward.com/issues/2003/03.06.06/oped3.html |
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Re: Matrix Reloaded's philosophical basis
From: geof-ga on 19 Jun 2003 04:05 PDT |
barneywahoozie-ga, I've read your essay on the possible relationship between Matrix Reloaded and the Middle East roadmap; and I am very dubious that the world-outlook underlying the movie could possibly be helpful in resolving the differences between Israelis and Palestinians. On the contrary, I think the "messages" expounded by the ingenious Matrix movies are most unhelpful. Dominant themes of Matrix and its sequel are that we human beings have little freedom of action or control over our own lives, and that the more we try to find answers to difficult questions the further we find ourselves from the truth; also, the Matrix films focus out attention on the complex problems of metaphysics. Whereas, surely what the Palestine problem cries out for is for the protagonists to eschew metaphysics (ie religion), to realise that they are free to take control of their own lives, and to try to find answers to their problems through the everyday processes of discussion and compromise. Only in one respect - and admittedly this is an important one - are the films helpfully relevant to the Middle East problem. Seeing the films might open both sides' eyes to the truth that each is trapped in a web composed of history, tradition, religious belief and mutual irrational prejudice and hatred. However, this matrix has not been imposed by any outside agency but by the parties themselves - and could be dissolved by the same means. Please forgive me for expressing such pre-postmodern and boringly "scientist" views. |
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Re: Matrix Reloaded's philosophical basis
From: eam2002-ga on 22 Jun 2003 02:12 PDT |
the matrix would help the middle east as much as the star trek episode where the two guys with half black and half white faces who hate each other helped south africa. |
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