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Subject: Snails or Escargots
Category: Family and Home > Gardening
Asked by: probonopublico-ga
List Price: $4.00
Posted: 16 Jun 2003 06:25 PDT
Expires: 16 Jul 2003 06:25 PDT
Question ID: 217853
On this day 12 months ago, I asked my very first question on GA
(27492) and it's still up here in Cyberspace.

Now, I am returning to snails because I found four of the little
buggers on my buddleia ... They were sitting there with their tongues
sticking out a mile ... Munching away.

Naturally, I sent them all on aerial manoeuvres: one in the direction
of Pinkfreud; one towards Missy; one towards Googlenut; and one
towards Daisy who threw it back. She thought it was a game.

NOW, I want to be shut of them FOREVER!!

What to do?

Thanks 

Bryan
Answer  
Subject: Re: Snails or Escargots
Answered By: omnivorous-ga on 16 Jun 2003 11:27 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Bryan -

We have a similar problem here in the Pacific Northwest, where the
climate is similar to that in the U.K.  Except that we don't have
quaint expressions such as:
"I want to be shut of them FOREVER!!"

There are myriad solutions to the problem.  Luckily you recognize
the problem: it took me two years to realize that the failure of
lettuce to appear in my garden was not due to seed failing to
germinate.  Rather, the slugs and snails were eating everything at
night whilst the gardener slept.

Herewith, a compendium of solutions:
Washington State University
"Snakes and snails tell gardening tales" (undated)
http://www.island.wsu.edu/igt8.htm


YOU CAN GET THEM DRUNK
----------------------

Everyone knows that a shallow dish of beer attracts them.  Unlike me,
they don't even care if the beer is stale.


HIRE A DUCK (OR A GOOSE)
------------------------

Not only do ducks and geese find them tasty, but so too do snakes. 
Garter snakes, available widely (this offer not valid in Ireland):
Garter Snake Home Page
http://www.gartersnake.co.uk/
http://www.gartersnake.co.uk/maintenance.htm


RELOCATION
-----------

The slugs and snails eat 30-40 times their own weight each day.  You
may not like it being done to your landscaping or garden vegetables,
but catching them after dark and relocating them to the compost pile
is a productive solution.


MY FRIEND CORY
---------------

Commercial firms sell pellets with metaldehyde, a snail bait and
killer.  A popular one here has the attractive name: "Cory's Slug and
Snail Death."  It has the drawback of being poisonous to pooches and
other pets, though there are less toxic versions, as noted in
Marianne's newsletter at the top of this answer.

Here's more information on toxicity:
Oregon State University Extension
"Slug bait--What's the scoop on slug bait formulations?" (Sept. 25,
2002)
http://eesc.orst.edu/agcomwebfile/garden/pestsandpesticides/slugbait.html


CHANGE THE PLANTS
------------------

You seem attached to the buddleia but this article from the University
of California at Davis (which produces great oenologists) says, get
stuff that they don't like to eat.  It also blames the snail problem
in California on the French.
UC Pest Management Guidelines
"Snail and Slugs" (May, 2003)
http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7427.html


THE MAGINOT LINE
----------------

Copper.  The same UC article above has excellent details on using
copper banding to build a Snail Defense Line.


RELOCATION 2
-------------

Slugs and snails are not present on some islands.  The Nature
Conservancy has been able to keep fragile native species in abundance
on Yellow Island (in the San Juan chain in the northwest corner of
Washington State) by keeping them off this island:
The Nature Conservancy
"Yellow Island Preserve" (undated)
http://nature.org/wherewework/northamerica/states/washington/preserves/art6383.html

This picture is prettier:
http://www.rockisland.com/~taichi/natural/graphics/yellowisland.html


Google search strategy:
"eliminating snails"
"garter snakes" + U.K.
"yellow island"

Vive la question 27492!

Omnivorous-GA

Request for Answer Clarification by probonopublico-ga on 21 May 2006 06:50 PDT
Hi Omni

Does this thing still work after all this time?

More importantly, do you still work?

Haven't heard from you for ages.

It's not the same without you.

Bryan

Clarification of Answer by omnivorous-ga on 30 May 2006 20:29 PDT
Bryan --

Damn, that was a good answer!  And I'm using the slug bait this spring
to protect lettuce plants, I might note.

I'm doing other things that prohibit my GA activity, as companies can
be sticky about copyrights and such.

If you do decide to visit Seattle, please let me know.  You know my
aircraft brand and could find me fairly easily with a search on the
aircraft brand + "events".  I would expect a rousing discussion of gin
(my beloved argues for Bombay; her friends for Bombay Sapphire; and my
former boss insists on Tanqueray).  Also, we have a little historical
business about the Hess letters that is unsettled. . .

Best regards,

Omnivorous-GA

Request for Answer Clarification by probonopublico-ga on 30 May 2006 21:55 PDT
Great to hear from you again, Omni, glad that all is well!

I shall certainly (try to) contact you if I ever have occasion to
visit Seattle again.

But how much better if you were to fly over here ...

If Lindy could do it all those years ago ...

Well why not?

All the Best

Bryan

Clarification of Answer by omnivorous-ga on 31 May 2006 10:20 PDT
Bryan --

I'd like to get back to the U.K. -- I spent a lot of time in London
and Felixstowe during the 1980s/90s when I would visit BT and other
computer customers.  No desire to do the trip in a single-engine
Mooney, however.

Best regards,

O.
probonopublico-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $6.00
Brilliant, Omni, Many Thanks & Here are 10 Super Stars for your collection:

>< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< ><

Oops ... I can't count!

Comments  
Subject: Re: Snails or Escargots
From: kemlo-ga on 16 Jun 2003 15:29 PDT
 
I still think your original idea of eating them is your best idea yet. 
which dosn't say for all your other ideas this past year
Kemlo the Great
Subject: Re: Snails or Escargots
From: omnivorous-ga on 17 Jun 2003 05:58 PDT
 
Bryan --

Thanks so much for the appreciation.  As a bonus (and because you
can't retract the stars now): my favorite snail joke.

Snail glides into a Chevrolet dealer and says, "How much is that red
Corvette?"
"It's 50,000 Euros.  But what does a snail want with a sports car?"
"I'll take it but I want a black 'S' painted on the hood," replies the
Snail.

Then for a week, all of the guys at the car dealership watch the Snail
zooming up and down the boulevard.  Finally, one of the salesmen pulls
up alongside him at the stoplight and asks, "We see now why you wanted
the sports car.  But why the 'S' on the hood?"

"Well my friends used to say, 'There goes the Snail,'" comes the
reply.  "Now they say . . .








'Look at that S Car Go!'"
Subject: Re: Snails or Escargots
From: googlenut-ga on 01 Jul 2003 16:24 PDT
 
That's where that flying snail came from!!!

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