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Subject: Ultrasound
Category: Health
Asked by: tigernyc_2000-ga
List Price: $3.00
Posted: 16 Jun 2003 09:09 PDT
Expires: 17 Jun 2003 06:10 PDT
Question ID: 217919
I want to know how much it costs to buy a new, inexpensive ultrasound
machine that I can use at home to watch the growth of a baby during
the 2nd and 3rd trimesters, including brand and web purchase
information.

Request for Question Clarification by missy-ga on 16 Jun 2003 11:16 PDT
Sonogram equipment is neither inexpensive, nor available for purchase
for home use.  Federally approved uses for ultrasound are quite
limited, and do not include usage outside of a medical setting, or by
non-qualified (non-certified, non-medical) personnel.

It appears from your username that you're located in New York City. 
Perhaps you'd rather we located ultrasound clinics in your area?

--Missy

Clarification of Question by tigernyc_2000-ga on 16 Jun 2003 14:09 PDT
Thanks for the clarification, as I was unaware of the federal legal
issue.  I will pay you for providing me with detail about any relevant
FDA or other regulation concerning this.

Clarification of Question by tigernyc_2000-ga on 16 Jun 2003 14:18 PDT
Also, I am surprised by this, because ultrasound Dopplers do appear to
be approved for home use.  http://www.fetalbond.com/prodinfo.htm

Request for Question Clarification by pinkfreud-ga on 16 Jun 2003 14:28 PDT
Would something like the FirstLook Fetal Monitor meet your needs?

http://www.gizmo.com.au/public/News/news.asp?articleid=1616

http://www.battelle.org/healthcare/html/firstlook.stm

Clarification of Question by tigernyc_2000-ga on 16 Jun 2003 15:56 PDT
Yes, FirstLook would meet my needs.  I'll pay if you can find pricing
and ordering information for me.  Thank you!

Request for Question Clarification by pinkfreud-ga on 16 Jun 2003 16:31 PDT
Upon further research, I've discovered that Firstlook is a prototype.
It is not yet on the market.

Request for Question Clarification by knowledge_seeker-ga on 16 Jun 2003 16:46 PDT
Hi tigernyc,

First, to clarify, the ultrasound doppler you have linked to merely
picks up fetal heartbeat - just sound. This you can do with a
stethoscope for a lot less money. :-)

A true ultrasound images your baby. This is different technology and
there does not exist one that is cleared for home use -- in fact the
FDA recommends against the practice of casual ultrasound use for a
number of reasons.

Would you like me to post an answer here explaining the FDAs stance
and other safety information regarding ultrasound?

Let me know,

-K~

Request for Question Clarification by knowledge_seeker-ga on 16 Jun 2003 17:33 PDT
Nevermind. :-)

I see Missy posted the info I was talking about at the same time I was
posting my RFC.  I really can't add a lot to what she said. Just these
links --


Fetal Keepsake Videos
http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/consumer/fetalvideos.html

Caution on Fetal Ultrasound for Non-Medical Reasons
http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/psn/show14.html

" But FDA says these "keepsake videos," taken for purely entertainment
purposes without a doctor's prescription and for no medical reason,
are an unapproved use of ultrasound equipment and therefore illegal.
As a result, in the first such action of its kind, Fetal Fotos of
Gainesville, Ga., agreed in a consent decree signed Sept. 12 to stop
producing ultrasound images of unborn babies without a written
prescription from a licensed doctor."

http://www.babybag.com/articles/fdavideo.htm


Hope we've been able to clarify a few things for you anyway.

Thanks for your question -

-K~
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Subject: Re: Ultrasound
From: jackburton-ga on 16 Jun 2003 09:20 PDT
 
http://www.miami-med.com/ultrasound.htm
Subject: Re: Ultrasound
From: feilong-ga on 16 Jun 2003 09:30 PDT
 
http://www.sonosite.com/products_ilook.html
If this is what you are looking for, please let me know. Thank you.
Subject: Re: Ultrasound
From: missy-ga on 16 Jun 2003 16:45 PDT
 
"Prospective parents may consider fetal ultrasound portraits cute, but
the American Institute of Ultrasound in Medicine sees potential
dangers in the increasingly popular use of the modality.

In a Nov. 5 statement, the AIUM warned physicians and would-be imaging
entrepreneurs that 2D and 3D obstetrical ultrasound should not be used
to view, obtain pictures, or determine gender of a fetus without a
medical prescription. The policy was announced in response to the
proliferation of shopping mall 3D ultrasound services that specialize
in fetal imaging. The announcement reiterated the position the AIUM
first took in 1999.

The institute's main concern is that using ultrasound for
entertainment purposes may have harmful biological repercussions, said
Dr. Alfred B. Kurtz, AIUM president.

The FDA announced this year that anyone administering ultrasound to
healthcare consumers without a medical prescription may be breaking
state or local law regarding the use of a prescription medical device.
Officials of the agency urged physicians, sonographers, and healthcare
consumers to notify the FDA of suspicious operations."

AIUM bars fetal ultrasound for entertainment purposes
http://www.diagnosticimaging.com/magazines/di/newsclips.shtml#A


"The FDA also warns, exposing the fetus to ultrasound with no
anticipation of medical benefit is not justified. It has cautioned
that persons who promote, sell or lease ultrasound equipment for
making keepsake fetal videos should know that the FDA views this as an
unapproved use of a medical device.

Those who subject individuals to ultrasound exposure using a
diagnostic ultrasound device (a prescription device) without a
physician's order may be in violation of state or local laws or
regulations regarding use of a prescription medical device."

Why Sonograms Should Be Performed Only When Medically Indicated
http://www.aium.org/consumer/entertainment/handout.pdf

"Ultrasound images--sonograms--are legitimately used in diagnostic
examinations of internal organs and unborn infants in the womb without
surgery. However, similar to restrictions placed on use of X-ray
machines, the federally approved uses for sonogram equipment are
limited, and do not include nonmedical or recreational applications."

Health Commissioner Warns of Unapproved Uses of Sonogram Devices
http://www.tdh.state.tx.us/news/b_news38.htm

"In 1976, the Medical Device Amendments to the Food, Drug and Cosmetic
Act were added requiring the FDA to regulate all medical devices,
which included diagnostic ultrasound equipment."

[...]

"An ultrasonographer is expected to follow the general principles set
forth by the FDA to reduce the potential for adverse bioeffects. One
must learn to balance the risks and benefits of ultrasound use.
Currently, many manufactured ultrasound devices exceed the allowable
acoustic output for fetal exposure by almost eight-fold when compared
with the FDA standards and therefore the safety responsibility falls
on the individual user.

Ultrasonography is an integral diagnostic device in the field of
obstetrics and gynecology among other specialties of medicine.
Epidemiologically, its safety record has been unblemished, but
historically, the regulation of acoustic output levels has been based
upon the FDA’s 510-k Guide published in 1985. Today, new ultrasound
technology and its applications may not only increase the benefits of
ultrasound but also the potential risks. Therefore, educating the
individual ultrasound users about safety will decrease the potential
for adverse bioeffects."

FDA Recommendations for the Safe Use of Ultrasonography in Obstetrics
http://www.sonocredits.com/article.asp?TestID=2

The relevant regulations are here:

FEDERAL FOOD, DRUG, AND COSMETIC ACT
http://www.fda.gov/opacom/laws/fdcact/fdctoc.htm

Also, the FirstLook Fetal Monitor is, according to an OB/GYN
department representative at St. Vincent Mercy Medical Center in
Toledo (OH), not yet in production.  She cautioned that the unit would
require testing and approval by the FDA before it could be marketed
and sold.  Battelle products won an IDEA award in 2002 for its design,
but it does not appear to be available at this time.  I've written to
Battelle for confirmation and information.

--Missy

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