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Subject:
How do airliners dump toilet waste?
Category: Sports and Recreation > Automotive Asked by: spurious-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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16 Jun 2003 19:57 PDT
Expires: 16 Jul 2003 19:57 PDT Question ID: 218186 |
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_790942.html The article above seems to imply that airliners just eject the waste out of the side, where it falls to earth as frozen chunks. Surely not? So tell me, what really happens? |
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Re: How do airliners dump toilet waste?
Answered By: bobbie7-ga on 16 Jun 2003 21:15 PDT Rated: ![]() |
Hello spurious-ga, Thank you for your question. Airlines are not permitted to dump toilet waste. The waste is kept in tanks until landing and then the ground crew pumps out the tanks and hauls the waste to a treatment facility. From the Chicago O'Hare Flight Standards District Office: Many people are of the assumption that aircraft lavatories dump overboard when they are flushed, this is not the case. Lavatory waste is contained on the aircraft in a holding tank until the aircraft lands. When the aircraft is safely on the ground, only ground crew personnel may operate the valve to dump the waste tank. While in flight it is physically impossible for the pilots to dump the waste water because the valve is usually located on the exterior of the aircraft. http://www2.faa.gov/fsdo/ord/blueice.htm The first toilets in airplanes were simple buckets. Information on early flushing systems is not available, however aircraft's cabin were not pressurized and it was easy to open doors and windows... Today and happily for people leaving close to airports, or under flight paths, there is no more falling manure. However planes still have to be purged of their smelly "unpaid load". Special designed Lavatory Service Carts collect the wastes for final disposal into the airport sewage facility. http://www.asiaspirit.com/lavatory.html Aircraft Ground Support Equipment - Lavatory Service Carts http://www.gsesales.com/lavatory_carts.htm Construction sites, airplanes, many boats and recreational vehicles, and some rural parks will have port-a-johns where you can flush the waste into a holding tank. The fluid is not the water used in standard household toilets. It blocks or masks the odor, and slows decomposition, until some lucky soul gets to pump out the tanks and haul the waste to a treatment facility. http://www.virginiaplaces.org/waste/sewer.html Regarding the article you mentioned, perhaps there was a leak in the waste storage tanks of the aircraft. Airlines are not permitted to dump lavatory waste while in flight. FAA spokeswoman Holly Baker said that if blue ice hit the Cadamores' house, a leak most likely occurred in a jet lavatory. At higher attitudes the leak forms ice on the aircraft. As the jet descends, the ice warms and starts to fall off the plane. Gazette.com Local News http://www.post-gazette.com/neigh_north/20021121blueicenp3.asp Search Criteria: lavatory waste system aircraft waste airplane toilets waste storage tanks +aircraft I hope this helps. If anything is unclear please request clarification and I'll be glad to offer further assistance before you rate my answer and close the question. Best Regards, Bobbie7-ga |
spurious-ga
rated this answer:![]() Thanks for the prompt answer, bobbie7-ga. Sunbathing in my garden watching the contrails in the summer sky and feeling the gentle caress of a light drizzle on my face, I have often contemplated the intricacies of airline toilet plumbing. |
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Re: How do airliners dump toilet waste?
From: bobbie7-ga on 16 Jun 2003 21:29 PDT |
Spurious, Thank you for the five star rating. Here is some additional information that may interest you: AIRCRAFT TOILET SYSTEMS Conventional aircraft toilets recirculate the holding tank solution through flush rings around the stainless steel bowl by means of an electrical circulating pump. The newer type aircraft now have a vacuum operated system, which sucks the waste along with about half a pint of potable water for flushing purposes into a common holding tank. As the customer never sees the holding tank solution, chemical deodorants do not have as important a role as they do in the more common recirculating types. Aircraft toilets are constructed primarily of stainless steel with the exception of the holding tanks, which are usually of a composite material. SERVICING AIRCRAFT TOILET TANKS The toilet holding tank may be a part of the individual toilet assembly or, as in larger aircraft, it may be separate, servicing several toilets. When serviced, the tanks are partially filled with a deodorant solution (water solution of a concentrated product), which is emptied and recharged at the next scheduled service stop. This is normally done with ground service trucks equipped with two tanks, one for picking up the waste material and one for flushing and recharging the holding tanks with fresh solution. The waste is released to the sanitary sewer and the deodorant tanks are recharged with fresh solution, usually at the same site in preparation for another service run. For liquid deodorants the service trucks can be charged with the proper concentration of deodorant, either by hand measurement or by metering into the fill water line with a proportioning device, which can be done with a siphoning device or an electrical metering pump. Some service trucks carry the concentrated deodorant and meter it directly into the aircraft in soluble packs or aluminum foil. Source: Chemetall Oakite News http://www.oakite.com/newspub/story.cfm?ID=96 From how stuff works: How does the toilet in a commercial airliner work? http://www.howstuffworks.com/question314.htm |
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Re: How do airliners dump toilet waste?
From: probonopublico-ga on 16 Jun 2003 23:03 PDT |
Better not to ask where trains dump their waste ... |
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Re: How do airliners dump toilet waste?
From: highroute-ga on 17 Jun 2003 06:16 PDT |
However, I seem to recall reading that for some years airliners allowed the fluids from their lavatory SINK drains to vent to the outside. It was thought that this small amount of water and soap would evaporate and therefore just "disappear." Then epidemiologists began to wonder why some diseases seemed to be spreading along unusual patterns. It was realized that these patterns were spokes that lay under the flight paths of airliners flying away from cities in which the diseases were well-established. The bacteria or viruses being washed off the hands of the infected were surviving their slow drift down to earth from the airliners. But that's just what I recall reading; maybe I'm imagining it. |
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